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vintx

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33. Please describe which delusions, specifically, you are referring to
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

Is Joe Biden deluded?

Joe Biden understands something about the Democratic Party and its future that his fellow partisans would do well to consider. “I don’t think any Democrat’s ever won saying, ‘We can’t think that big—we ought to really downsize here because it’s not realistic,’” the vice president told The New York Times in April. “C’mon man, this is the Democratic Party! I’m not part of the party that says, ‘Well, we can’t do it.’” Mocking Hillary Clinton’s criticism of Bernie Sanders for proposing bold reforms, Biden dismissed the politics of lowered expectations. “I like the idea of saying, ‘We can do much more,’ because we can,” he declared, leading the Times to observe that, while Biden wasn’t making an endorsement, “He’ll take Mr. Sanders’s aspirational approach over Mrs. Clinton’s caution any day.”

Unwittingly or not, Biden made an even better case than Sanders has for taking his insurgent campaign all the way to the Democratic convention in Philadelphia. If the party is going to run in 2016 on a “do much more” agenda—as opposed to triangulating around the center—the Vermont senator’s supporters and like-minded Democrats, including Clinton’s progressive backers, will have to force the issue. Taking the Sanders insurgency to the convention is the paramount vehicle for placing demands that are ideological and, as Biden’s comments suggest, also strategic. That’s one reason why Sanders promised in a statement on April 26 to go to the convention with “as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform”—despite the fact that Clinton’s delegate advantage now all but guarantees that she will win the nomination.

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I haven't seen anyone expressing that sentiment Capt. Obvious May 2016 #1
Here's a current thread for you Matt_in_STL May 2016 #5
Where do you guys get this stuff from? JaneyVee May 2016 #2
From one thread on DU leftynyc May 2016 #44
Although I freely admit leftynyc May 2016 #45
The real power is at the local level. This is where WhiteTara May 2016 #3
"As Skinner said, the amount of progressives who won't vote for her is tiny." BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #4
Skinner knows politics. nt vintx May 2016 #7
Sorry, appeals to authority don't cut it for me BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #46
Considering that the primaries are won by voting mythology May 2016 #6
I used to preach that same line. vintx May 2016 #8
Hashtag activism isn't activism Tarc May 2016 #9
Correct. What it is is an indicator. vintx May 2016 #13
So are Sanders' huge rallies also an "indicator"? LOL KittyWampus May 2016 #16
Yes, they are. vintx May 2016 #22
It's an indicator that some people have a lot of free time on their hands Tarc May 2016 #23
How much did Hillary spend to fund such time wasting? vintx May 2016 #25
Steven Pastis said it best: FSogol May 2016 #28
It's cute how Bernie's fans are acting like minority voters are silly and meaningless. LexVegas May 2016 #10
Did you not notice how many minorities and women are using that hashtag? vintx May 2016 #12
Have you noticed that Bernie is getting his ass kicked? nt LexVegas May 2016 #14
So is she, that is why you all are crying for him to stop. nt artislife May 2016 #19
He's not that far behind her. And part of the reason he is behind vintx May 2016 #21
His numbers are way, way behind Tarc May 2016 #29
Bernie is far enough behind at this point that he doesn't have much of a shot of catching her. Ace Rothstein May 2016 #31
Please describe which delusions, specifically, you are referring to vintx May 2016 #33
The delusional that Bernie has a chance to be the nominee at this point. Ace Rothstein May 2016 #35
Are you saying it's impossible, or highly improbable? vintx May 2016 #39
Highly improbable. Ace Rothstein May 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc May 2016 #11
Some if not most of those fake followers are marketing... vintx May 2016 #17
Don't worry, they did polls, not many Bernie or Busters, they can't blame us when they lose. Joob May 2016 #15
Yep, but still you see people here angrily lashing out at us. vintx May 2016 #24
Don't paint with such a broad brush. Agschmid May 2016 #26
Point taken vintx May 2016 #27
I'm sure some have, and that goes both ways. Agschmid May 2016 #30
Of course the power of social media should be acknowledged. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #18
It's a reaction to the (far less popular) 'dropoutbernie' hashtag. vintx May 2016 #20
I think you just made the point for us... Agschmid May 2016 #32
The reason it is less popular is she has less support from younger aged people vintx May 2016 #34
I disagree. Agschmid May 2016 #37
The difference between Hillary supporters and Bernie supporters is.... iandhr May 2016 #43
It certainly doesn't win races KingFlorez May 2016 #36
You shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark. LanternWaste May 2016 #38
Social media is definitely a mixed bag. However its usefulness and meaningfulness BootinUp May 2016 #40
People on twitter calling on person winning to drop out is pretty silly. iandhr May 2016 #42
Flip flops are good for your feet, but not for your values. pdsimdars May 2016 #47
blaming Dems for the gerrymandering that they have been fighting? Learn that from tweets, I bet. bettyellen May 2016 #48
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