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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: It's cute how Hillary's fans are acting like social media is silly and meaningless. [View all]vintx
(1,748 posts)33. Please describe which delusions, specifically, you are referring to
Is Joe Biden deluded?
Joe Biden understands something about the Democratic Party and its future that his fellow partisans would do well to consider. I dont think any Democrats ever won saying, We cant think that bigwe ought to really downsize here because its not realistic, the vice president told The New York Times in April. Cmon man, this is the Democratic Party! Im not part of the party that says, Well, we cant do it. Mocking Hillary Clintons criticism of Bernie Sanders for proposing bold reforms, Biden dismissed the politics of lowered expectations. I like the idea of saying, We can do much more, because we can, he declared, leading the Times to observe that, while Biden wasnt making an endorsement, Hell take Mr. Sanderss aspirational approach over Mrs. Clintons caution any day.
Unwittingly or not, Biden made an even better case than Sanders has for taking his insurgent campaign all the way to the Democratic convention in Philadelphia. If the party is going to run in 2016 on a do much more agendaas opposed to triangulating around the centerthe Vermont senators supporters and like-minded Democrats, including Clintons progressive backers, will have to force the issue. Taking the Sanders insurgency to the convention is the paramount vehicle for placing demands that are ideological and, as Bidens comments suggest, also strategic. Thats one reason why Sanders promised in a statement on April 26 to go to the convention with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platformdespite the fact that Clintons delegate advantage now all but guarantees that she will win the nomination.
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http://www.thenation.com/article/bernies-philadelphia-challenge/
Unwittingly or not, Biden made an even better case than Sanders has for taking his insurgent campaign all the way to the Democratic convention in Philadelphia. If the party is going to run in 2016 on a do much more agendaas opposed to triangulating around the centerthe Vermont senators supporters and like-minded Democrats, including Clintons progressive backers, will have to force the issue. Taking the Sanders insurgency to the convention is the paramount vehicle for placing demands that are ideological and, as Bidens comments suggest, also strategic. Thats one reason why Sanders promised in a statement on April 26 to go to the convention with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platformdespite the fact that Clintons delegate advantage now all but guarantees that she will win the nomination.
(More at link)
http://www.thenation.com/article/bernies-philadelphia-challenge/
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It's cute how Hillary's fans are acting like social media is silly and meaningless. [View all]
vintx
May 2016
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"As Skinner said, the amount of progressives who won't vote for her is tiny."
BernieforPres2016
May 2016
#4
It's cute how Bernie's fans are acting like minority voters are silly and meaningless.
LexVegas
May 2016
#10
Bernie is far enough behind at this point that he doesn't have much of a shot of catching her.
Ace Rothstein
May 2016
#31
Don't worry, they did polls, not many Bernie or Busters, they can't blame us when they lose.
Joob
May 2016
#15
Social media is definitely a mixed bag. However its usefulness and meaningfulness
BootinUp
May 2016
#40
blaming Dems for the gerrymandering that they have been fighting? Learn that from tweets, I bet.
bettyellen
May 2016
#48