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HereSince1628

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95. The Big "Democracy for the People" Project Bernie initiated is helped by his staying in.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:08 PM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 5, 2016, 07:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Sanders gets to demonstrate where and how strong the support is for anti-Neoliberal Democrats.

Sanders also gets to keep expanding and refining his database re the support of those people... in all 50 states and the territories.

The knowledge gained by staying in will help the Big Project organize to be a force in the 2018 mid-terms.

If people would stop being myopic looking at party loyalty for Nov as the only issue and just pause for a few minutes to look at the political landscape, they'd notice what is already obvious:

-MANY- of the most easily turned 30-ish Republican Congressional seats are in the non-urban counties that have gone heavily for Sanders and are in states that were won by Sanders.

Building a movement that will win those seats -IS- the "Big Project" it is important. Revealing where and how strong the anti-Neoliberal democrats are in the remaining primaries and caucuses is critically important to actionable plans for the 2018 midterms.


I'm not at all surprised Sanders is going to stay in until the end. It's exactly what the Big Projects leader needs to do with the leverage he's created in a very very remarkable campaign.



Delusional Matariki May 2016 #1
you think it won't be ugly when he supports the nominee- which is 95% likely now? bettyellen May 2016 #5
95% likely that he supports the nominee? SheenaR May 2016 #37
So you think Sanders is lying to us all about supporting the Dem candidate? bettyellen May 2016 #44
I think it will be a soft support. Canesfan May 2016 #124
I think his ego gets in the way of supporting- or even working with- others. bettyellen May 2016 #125
He is running as a Democrat, he will support the Democratic nominee. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #79
I believe it as well. It is easy for keyboard warriors to forget this world (DU) isn't real Maru Kitteh May 2016 #132
he's right about the platform, too. I question having an East Coast drug warrior in charge of it. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #134
No, it will be fine. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #77
Looking for negativity, that's all this comment is about. States who haven't voted, deserve respect. snowy owl May 2016 #103
I agree. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #105
Agreed - Iowa First Just Because .... Then Lottery!!! scottie55 May 2016 #109
Sigh. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #110
Tradition, What The Heck scottie55 May 2016 #112
Sanders earned his supporters votes, but doesn't own them. HooptieWagon May 2016 #106
They already are skipping the down ticket races in the primaries- one issue, one candidate.... bettyellen May 2016 #107
Zero Bernie Supporters Will Support Trump scottie55 May 2016 #111
I hope you are right. If so, there are a lot of trolls out there- and have been for quite a while. bettyellen May 2016 #119
Yes, he did. That is what Demagogues do. Whether they are from the right or left. KittyWampus May 2016 #58
so by definition... floppyboo May 2016 #97
Nice Sarah Palin imitation. KittyWampus May 2016 #98
Why would you say that? Fresh_Start May 2016 #2
smh grasswire May 2016 #3
The writing is on the wall, grasswire. Many SBS supporters will view SBS support for Hillary as a bettyellen May 2016 #10
Umhm. Hostility toward Hillary has burned hotter than loyalty to Hortensis May 2016 #21
Yep! So much irrational hate, he has lost his ability to lead already. bettyellen May 2016 #23
Relax. If you actually believed in your candidate you would have nothing to worry about. lagomorph777 May 2016 #4
Plus currently two separate FBI Investigtions regarding HRC n/t truedelphi May 2016 #131
He cares about defeating Trump. He knows he is the strongest candidate and that Skwmom May 2016 #6
You know he is going to fall behind Hillary when the time comes, but can't handle it. bettyellen May 2016 #13
LOLZ. Sanders supporters still blind to the avalanche that would descend on Sanders. KittyWampus May 2016 #60
My money is still on President Sanders. Hillary's legal troubles are going IdaBriggs May 2016 #7
Care to cut me in on some action? bettyellen May 2016 #11
Sure - want to join in on the "out by Memorial Day" fifty cent bet? IdaBriggs May 2016 #22
I do think he will stay in till June. Likely late June, and then support Hillary. bettyellen May 2016 #50
Ah, my bet is that HILLARY will be out by Memorial Day. IdaBriggs May 2016 #56
Okay- you are on! bettyellen May 2016 #59
Either way, DU benefits! IdaBriggs May 2016 #63
I like that! bettyellen May 2016 #67
Forget it, IdaBriggs... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #64
Ridiculous beyond delusional. 99Forever May 2016 #8
Because SBS's supporters have never been characterized as an "angry mob"? SBS has said as much. bettyellen May 2016 #12
Characterised by shit-stirrers like you. 99Forever May 2016 #20
And by SBS himself, as well as the media... bettyellen May 2016 #57
Bullshit. 99Forever May 2016 #82
+1. I second the motion! (N/T) Old Crow May 2016 #99
And the vote is in. Scruffy Rumbler May 2016 #91
Thanks. 99Forever May 2016 #92
smart move! Scruffy Rumbler May 2016 #93
Where is the evidence of an angry mob? boobooday May 2016 #9
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1251 ContinentalOp May 2016 #17
Nice! Faux concern for Sanders and a dig at his supporters all in one fell swoop. frylock May 2016 #14
He is already distancing / embarrassing himself by saying he has little sway over how you vote.... bettyellen May 2016 #16
How embarrassing for him that he doesn't exercise complete control over us. frylock May 2016 #24
It will be the unhinged hatred because you all can't control SBS, LOL. When he becomes bettyellen May 2016 #28
The unhinged hatred is coming exclusively from your camp. frylock May 2016 #36
We will see what happens when he falls in behind Hillary. Look forward to chatting w/ you then. bettyellen May 2016 #52
Oh, the discussion will be far more lively after Mrs Clinton's interview with Director Comey. frylock May 2016 #53
GO pin your hope on GOPers getting their way. I cannot do that in good conscience. bettyellen May 2016 #55
LOL! n/t bvf May 2016 #41
There will be some wailing and gnashing of teeth, but most will fall in line behind Sanders... LexVegas May 2016 #15
I agree, but the angry Twitterers will seem to be more numerous than they are- and what they used to bettyellen May 2016 #18
... greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #19
Yummy! I love popcorn! bettyellen May 2016 #26
Me too! greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #30
Yummy! I love beer! bettyellen May 2016 #35
Me too! greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #38
Guinness is good for you! And for me as well. bettyellen May 2016 #42
Absolutely! greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #45
I would be fine with Sanders campaigning, endorsing and supporting Hillary bigwillq May 2016 #25
But you've always been a fairly kind and rational person. Never seen you post rashly.... bettyellen May 2016 #31
Some people fizzlerynx May 2016 #27
Your opinion is baloney cali May 2016 #29
Well reasoned. Welcome back! bettyellen May 2016 #33
So it's about to get "ugly" on twitter and Facebook? Vapors! cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #32
The press will make hay of it and humiliate SBS. Because if it bleeds it leads.... bettyellen May 2016 #39
The Press Will Marginalize Bernie pmorlan1 May 2016 #74
Yeah I don't think he really gives a shit about what the press says concerning someone on twitter cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #89
agree with you on FB and Twitter, as it seems like where people for fodder.... bettyellen May 2016 #90
Get out the duct tape and the salts! bvf May 2016 #47
I'm sure that's part of the equation. There will probably be some deep, philosophical sit down at PeaceNikki May 2016 #34
If only he could wrangle the BOB monsters to follow someone else off a cliff..... bettyellen May 2016 #40
Lol, great analogy! PeaceNikki May 2016 #43
It's not a hunt for hidden meaning. Sanders said every state should get a chance to vote (as did Vote2016 May 2016 #46
And he has said he supports the Dem nominee, but so few here can accept that. bettyellen May 2016 #48
where do you find that many don't accept that he will support the nominee if he loses? Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #114
the BOBs? Plenty of them here. bettyellen May 2016 #122
Unrec. n/t demmiblue May 2016 #49
I think he might win this thing. nt silvershadow May 2016 #51
Me too. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #69
There is none. I hope we can complete the primary without further disenfranchisement silvershadow May 2016 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Kip Humphrey May 2016 #54
Not a problem at all. Bernie does what he needs to do and I won't fault him for Autumn May 2016 #61
I think Senator Sanders is still in because thucythucy May 2016 #62
People understand that he is going to endorse the Democratic nominee. Kall May 2016 #65
I think SBS is self interested in an egotistical way that can't be satisfied. Adopting his bettyellen May 2016 #76
You're free to think whatever you want. Kall May 2016 #85
There have been some clashes between Trump and Sanders supporters, hopefully this is not in the Thinkingabout May 2016 #66
Bernie, and most supporters, have more depth than that. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #68
I agree this is true about most supporters, but there is a very vocal and web-active minority.... bettyellen May 2016 #72
I can identify with the anti-Hillary sentiment. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #81
I stopped reading when you suggested I "need to read more". The SBS supporters here often bettyellen May 2016 #86
"HRC's accomplishments" scottie55 May 2016 #113
Oligarchy! zappaman May 2016 #70
It's a conspiracy! bettyellen May 2016 #73
I think the noise about crazed sanders supporters is a brock-sponsored meme. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #75
I actually have a few good friends who are Hillary haters. They are a bit pissed I have refused to bettyellen May 2016 #83
Lets get to the convention, see if sane heads like newsom, merkley and blumenauer can get progress Warren DeMontague May 2016 #84
Good points, as always. bettyellen May 2016 #87
Agreed. But given the desperate requests for donations, I think this might be a financial synergie May 2016 #78
Every time someone with a yellow transparency page on a time out amnesty posts on DU Warren DeMontague May 2016 #80
Sanders supporters aren't control freaks like Hill bots farleftlib May 2016 #88
EEEK!! An "angry mob"!! Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #94
The Big "Democracy for the People" Project Bernie initiated is helped by his staying in. HereSince1628 May 2016 #95
thanks for the encouraging take on this. just today he said he is staying in till DC votes.... bettyellen May 2016 #96
Thank you. nt silvershadow May 2016 #117
Sanders has said it's about a movement, his wife has suggested that HereSince1628 May 2016 #118
It's now time for you to head off to ignore for a while Marrah_G May 2016 #100
Your comment makes no sense to me. Bernie has always said she's better than Repub. snowy owl May 2016 #101
Is that more Clinton meth? HooptieWagon May 2016 #102
Rec'd for the comment about the hatred he will get. joshcryer May 2016 #104
I think the press will try and make hay with it, and he has some calculous to do now.... bettyellen May 2016 #121
Sorry, but I think this op is insane. snot May 2016 #108
I think you're hallucinating. hobbit709 May 2016 #115
I will not vote Hillary. PowerToThePeople May 2016 #116
I don't think his supporters will turn on him. DawgHouse May 2016 #120
I agree. Canesfan May 2016 #123
You could.... bettyellen May 2016 #127
I doubt that is the reason KingFlorez May 2016 #126
I think Bernie wants to set up the grief counselors Gomez163 May 2016 #128
I hope he is going to let them down incrementally.... despite their feelings over process.... bettyellen May 2016 #130
You go ahead and make fun of Bernie but Bernie and his supportes know what he has bkkyosemite May 2016 #129
Bernie doesn't strike me as a shrinking violet. Aerows May 2016 #133
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