2016 Postmortem

1StrongBlackMan

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Sun May 8, 2016, 06:05 PM

May 2016

The main issue is that most of these "progressives" are mediocre privileged white kids (or were mediocre privileged white kids in the 60s) who wanted to define themselves by how "pure" and "liberal" they were; talking the talk but never walking the walk, or even if they did walk the walk like Bernie did, they got diverted away from actual organizing into cute little "projects" in low pop areas because it seemed like a more viable way to get "revolution" than pragmatic organizing.

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'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it' is... [View all] uponit7771 May 2016 OP

Isn't that a quote from Henry Kissinger? XemaSab May 2016 #1

It was attributed to a major in the US military after Ben Tre South Nam uponit7771 May 2016 #2

We do not think things are quick fixes. timmymoff May 2016 #3

I don't see that, instead of focusing on off years where a stronger than the president uponit7771 May 2016 #4

Changed? Such as a diaper? Or short changed, by her conservative policies? timmymoff May 2016 #8

No, changed in like putting all the energy in a place that doesn't have the largest effect and uponit7771 May 2016 #11

well in the mean time timmymoff May 2016 #12

Crap candidate = vote for the CFMA and then demonize Wall Street... that's crap. uponit7771 May 2016 #14

ready? timmymoff May 2016 #16

Ready? CFMA, Brady Bill 5 times, "not important" on racial issues, "When you think about ghettos uponit7771 May 2016 #20

I have no problem timmymoff May 2016 #21

I have no problem.. uponit7771 May 2016 #23

yes, she is so pure timmymoff May 2016 #24

No she's not, she's flawed as hell just like I am and I'm OK with that. I don't expect perfection... uponit7771 May 2016 #26

I only expect democratic principles timmymoff May 2016 #30

You don't get to define them though, that's ....... privileged uponit7771 May 2016 #59

Well I'm not a 1 percenter timmymoff May 2016 #72

You don't have to be a 1%er to be privileged in this country uponit7771 May 2016 #74

Thus far I can't find anyone who seems to really know puffy socks May 2016 #77

Good luck with that steaming pile of horseshit propaganda. This same shit gets peddled for each and GoneFishin May 2016 #80

Your post is just another example puffy socks May 2016 #83

You think I don't know that the $ trillions in profits to be made on the backs of U.S. workers GoneFishin May 2016 #85

well I immediately found trudyco May 2016 #87

No need to destroy it, just abandon it. HooptieWagon May 2016 #5

Same effect uponit7771 May 2016 #7

Enjoy your ghost town. HooptieWagon May 2016 #19

Nah, those people don't seem to work hard at thinking, lazy mind = lazy body uponit7771 May 2016 #22

That's republican talk. HooptieWagon May 2016 #48

No they aren't. joshcryer May 2016 #41

Is that what the DNC said about democracy when they decided to game the system? CentralCoaster May 2016 #6

You mean the system Sanders joined knowing the rules? If he didn't know the rules that's jsut uponit7771 May 2016 #9

Yeah, and your candidate went along with his very worst decision, thought it was a great idea Fumesucker May 2016 #52

Do you even listen to yourself? Kentonio May 2016 #68

It's like they don't remember Ralph Nader. wildeyed May 2016 #10

+1000, I no longer have a positive view of the far left and socialism after this primary. I was... uponit7771 May 2016 #13

I have had serious reservations about "progressives" wildeyed May 2016 #25

You're right on the money, ideologues laud their ideals over anything practical... yeap, that seems uponit7771 May 2016 #27

My Mom called it wildeyed May 2016 #29

And recently 12 of your beloved conservative NC Democrats voted for that anti trans, anti gay Bluenorthwest May 2016 #60

All in rural districts. wildeyed May 2016 #69

I am a socialist, my ideals are way to the left of many on this forum. forjusticethunders May 2016 #73

Obama was still trying to fulfill his campaign promise. wildeyed May 2016 #75

... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #84

Well, let me clarify forjusticethunders May 2016 #86

Oh ... I completely understand, and agree with, what you are saying ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #88

Egomania is nearly universal. Ubiquitous, insidious. Voice for Peace May 2016 #54

we also remember Gore losing 250,000 democrats to Bush in Florida timmymoff May 2016 #15

No, I blame you. wildeyed May 2016 #18

Hillary just might pull off the Romney Trifecta Jack Bone May 2016 #46

Gore lost Tennessee because thucythucy May 2016 #76

Dish out the same stale menu for 25 years... HooptieWagon May 2016 #17

So not eating anything > anything stale? You read what you typed? It seems cutting the nose off uponit7771 May 2016 #28

Jinx! wildeyed May 2016 #31

Can always eat at another resturant. HooptieWagon May 2016 #33

Only if you can pay the bill. wildeyed May 2016 #40

$27 times 10 million. HooptieWagon May 2016 #42

Costs way more than that to build a restaurant. wildeyed May 2016 #45

We'll skip the corporate franchise fees. HooptieWagon May 2016 #47

If you can't take the heat... wildeyed May 2016 #49

Well that is because none of you can be bothered wildeyed May 2016 #32

+1, exactly... they don't bring any of that energy to the mid terms !! I was told early in the.. uponit7771 May 2016 #36

I was told, with a straight face, wildeyed May 2016 #38

My State is one of the most progressive in the country, broke turnout records in 2010 Bluenorthwest May 2016 #63

I love it when blue state people try to tell wildeyed May 2016 #70

My take: it's time to start thinking about Voice for Peace May 2016 #34

They already did that Mnpaul May 2016 #37

Yah, thanks Voice for Peace May 2016 #50

I'll just leave this here hellofromreddit May 2016 #35

"Lazy thinking" is what Hillary did when she voted for the IWR, backed fracking, backed the NSA. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #39

It wasn't lazy. It was quid pro quo. nt Bonobo May 2016 #43

Coupled with ruthless ambition and disdain for human lives. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #44

So, why did the Clintons destroy it, if not to save it? Greed? nt Live and Learn May 2016 #51

Only the privileged think America is "destroyed" cause they have to share now uponit7771 May 2016 #57

holy fuck, really? Are you aware of the degree to which JCanete May 2016 #71

So who the fuck *has* voted to destroy not just a town but an entire country? Fumesucker May 2016 #53

The ones who aim towards purity vs a true grind uponit7771 May 2016 #58

You mean the bigoted, small minded friend of the Clintons they hobnob and photo op with? TheKentuckian May 2016 #55

More right wing tripe uponit7771 May 2016 #61

Seems like complaints right wingers never express. TheKentuckian May 2016 #64

When two sides are hell-bent on destroying you, it's best to support neither of them. Betty Karlson May 2016 #56

Then pick the one who's going to do less destruction, only the privileged think they're the same uponit7771 May 2016 #62

No, the priviledged are the ones who think they are different. Betty Karlson May 2016 #67

Blind Loyalty pmorlan1 May 2016 #78

The problem is that PEOPLE get destroyed gollygee May 2016 #65

+1, that's why I'm seeing overall... privileged people who can think about destroying... uponit7771 May 2016 #66

Hillary needs to drop out Rass May 2016 #79

Yep. If these "concerned" folks are so worried about Trump then she should step aside so a true GoneFishin May 2016 #82

When you serve up a shit sandwich don't be surprised when some people refuse to eat it. If you want GoneFishin May 2016 #81