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LiberalArkie

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163. I had a friend who accidentally dropped papers "to be shredded and incinerated" into the recycled
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

sealed disposal containers. Someone simply stopped to ask him some questions and he turned and dropped then into to wrong container. He called security and explained the problem and they came and emptied the recycled container into the shread and burn container. He was let off because he had no intent to dispose of the documents incorrectly.

More than likely the "mens rea" is what got him off. The guy that there before him had to serve time for improper disposal.

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"Sources close to the investigation" are Hillary Cronies in the State Dept. FreakinDJ May 2016 #1
"Close to the investigation" is rhetoric. Does it mean in the same room or same city or rhett o rick May 2016 #54
Actually catnhatnh May 2016 #72
...! KoKo May 2016 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #2
Take your Hillary smears to a RW site. riversedge May 2016 #3
LOL! Truth has now become a 'smear' in camp weathervane! Segami May 2016 #5
Just as meaningless as classified information law is to Hillary Clinton. leveymg May 2016 #12
You've been pushing this for quite a while. brush May 2016 #55
A key word in the Clinton email investigation: 'Knowingly' Gothmog May 2016 #118
How is 'truth' taking out words so it has the exact opposite meaning? nt puffy socks May 2016 #17
Scant means nothing? hootinholler May 2016 #22
LOl I'm poitning out it DOES mean something puffy socks May 2016 #26
Funny, the point was hootinholler May 2016 #44
Imagine that your daughter tells you that she is a "little bit" pregnant. Jemmons May 2016 #37
+1 K&R bobthedrummer May 2016 #45
This is damage control in high gear Jemmons May 2016 #47
Wrestling with whether she intended inchhigh May 2016 #61
They are just looking for mitigation. Exactly. leveymg May 2016 #85
Wrong again Gothmog May 2016 #120
I had a friend who accidentally dropped papers "to be shredded and incinerated" into the recycled LiberalArkie May 2016 #163
Your reasoning seems very fair and balanced... KoKo May 2016 #92
You forgot BENGHAZI!!!!!1111 Renew Deal May 2016 #66
It gets old...it gets stale... So much investigation has moved on... KoKo May 2016 #95
The truth has always been a problem TrueDemVA May 2016 #108
Why go the free republic when we can get silly stuff here Gothmog May 2016 #117
It's all over the net. 840high May 2016 #132
Oh, wow, it must be true then! NastyRiffraff May 2016 #136
They are ALL lying - feel 840high May 2016 #162
Pathetic Sanders acolytes clinging to Bernie's only path to the nomination redstateblues May 2016 #151
I've been here a decade longer than you, and no one has ever accused me of being RW. leveymg May 2016 #10
So you claim that you're not a single-issue person here to slander Hillary? Dem2 May 2016 #11
Truth is always a full defense against libel and slander charges. leveymg May 2016 #14
thank you for writing this op questionseverything May 2016 #75
I love laughing a laypersons who get simple legal concepts wrong Gothmog May 2016 #123
In Camp Bansalot any position not in 150% enthusiastic support of Clinton hobbit709 May 2016 #18
Silly and foolish laypersons are funny when they attempt to understand the law Gothmog May 2016 #119
Maybe Hillary's Party needs a much smaller tent FreakinDJ May 2016 #13
"Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" Vast I tell ya, Vast bahrbearian May 2016 #16
Funny how conservatives will post an article that includes spin, but when the spin lie is rhett o rick May 2016 #23
I feel sorry for you CoffeeCat May 2016 #31
Thank you. A wonderful, thoughtful post! RufusTFirefly May 2016 #107
Bravo! Ignoring and minimizing this issue will only make things worse if and when the FBI announces merbex May 2016 #156
Nothing to do with RW.. This is just a little deflective technique used pangaia May 2016 #76
The whole thing creeksneakers2 May 2016 #157
The reality is that they did in fact find evidence and she is in trouble Ferd Berfel May 2016 #77
You are funny. 840high May 2016 #130
My gosh, another screed of copy and paste drooling over Hillary's potential demise Dem2 May 2016 #4
How is it slander? I assume you accepted the article that said there was "scant evidence", the rhett o rick May 2016 #25
If someone's sole intent is to destroy our likely candidate Dem2 May 2016 #27
I like "sole intent" as if you can devine that. I believe Hillary's sole intent is to amass rhett o rick May 2016 #29
Yes of course Dem2 May 2016 #33
You think that a messageboard CoffeeCat May 2016 #38
I defend both candidates Dem2 May 2016 #106
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #101
Let it go. hrmjustin May 2016 #6
Somebody posted a video yesterday of Hillary from 2008 saying she wasn't going to use email BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #7
It's this one xloadiex May 2016 #35
Thanks BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #43
Recommend watch....very revealing. KoKo May 2016 #104
And, that's why she used a "Private Server" during her time as SOS... KoKo May 2016 #115
Sort of like scantily clad Skink May 2016 #8
Doesn't that mean they should be raped? hootinholler May 2016 #20
"somewhat pregnant" MisterP May 2016 #69
The parts of this that didn't hurt my brain to read, I am in total agreement with. pdsimdars May 2016 #9
modify it again so it says puffy socks May 2016 #15
This is getting bad........... pinebox May 2016 #19
Just like her little "out" tag of "as far as I know." All she knows how to do is spin. GreenPartyVoter May 2016 #21
Bookmarked. Thanks. nt floppyboo May 2016 #24
"Scant" means some, we just don't know how much because the investigation rhett o rick May 2016 #28
You're reading way too much into things Onlooker May 2016 #30
+1 n/t JTFrog May 2016 #124
leveymg, you need to enlighten Cenk Ugyur antigop May 2016 #32
If someone has his email address, please forward it to him. leveymg May 2016 #46
Under your sad but wrong analysis talking about NYT articles on drones is illegal Gothmog May 2016 #125
Even Fox News is not stupid enough to believe that there will be an indictment Gothmog May 2016 #133
Those handling confidential information are trained extensively on how to recognize rhett o rick May 2016 #34
And of course the Secretary of State is going to GENERATE a lot of classified communication BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #40
"Wiped? You mean like with a cloth?" Jemmons May 2016 #49
First of all she is trained and fully knows what is and isn't confidential. rhett o rick May 2016 #51
You can be smart and have terrible judgement XemaSab May 2016 #59
Hillary Clinton didn't break the law Gothmog May 2016 #134
Interesting that those that don't handle confidental information think lawyers know all. rhett o rick May 2016 #138
It is even more interesting seeing laypersons attempting to understand legal concepts Gothmog May 2016 #150
Good grief.. you never give up on this nonsense. DCBob May 2016 #36
No, it means the charges under Sec 793 are limited to subsections (e) and (f). leveymg May 2016 #50
You are too much! Its gonna really hurt when the FBI report finally comes out. DCBob May 2016 #52
The Hillary Clinton top-secret email controversy, explained Gothmog May 2016 #126
Actually, her use of the Blackberry... ljm2002 May 2016 #67
Try reading for content... catnhatnh May 2016 #74
Just like there's "no malicious intent" when someone cheats on their spouse. . Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #39
Interesting illustration of the OCD syndrome... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #41
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #42
The law is against you, and there are no facts on your side, so go ad hominem. leveymg May 2016 #48
Reminds me of the "disapppointed" scene from "A Fish Called Wanda"... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #53
You really are in no position to be lecturing anyone COLGATE4 May 2016 #80
No, the law is clear and it is the silly attempts of laypersons to understand the law that is wrong Gothmog May 2016 #127
Everything they say seems possible to parse. The communications seem intended to obsfuscate HereSince1628 May 2016 #56
Thanks, leveymg. I'm glad someone else noticed that... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #57
Whatever it takes to STOP HER! YES! YES! YES! CROOKED HILLARY! BootinUp May 2016 #58
No it does not Demsrule86 May 2016 #60
KNR amborin May 2016 #62
When she is interrogated, is she a target then? aspirant May 2016 #63
All this makes me nervous Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #64
Why would anyone be given immunity aspirant May 2016 #65
"Scant Evidence" under the Law Means "No Evidence" ie Insufficient Evidence to Meet Burden of Proof Stallion May 2016 #68
No. (S)he is just a lawyer wannabe. COLGATE4 May 2016 #81
thank you for the thoughtful and comprehensive analysis. grasswire May 2016 #70
leveymg, I think you are right about the word "scant," also about "intended." Peace Patriot May 2016 #71
The difference between intended and not intended is only which felony to charge her with. nt leveymg May 2016 #73
There is no specific intent or mens rea here Gothmog May 2016 #128
This artice is from September 8, 2015 and look at what he said, again: KoKo May 2016 #149
What Kind of Evidence? pmorlan1 May 2016 #78
Playing lawyer again? COLGATE4 May 2016 #79
Laypersons are so silly when they try to understand legal concepts Gothmog May 2016 #121
Pure babble. COLGATE4 May 2016 #159
LOL DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #82
I am also laughing at this thread also Gothmog May 2016 #131
LOL (REPRISE) DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #83
LOL (REDUX) DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #84
LOL ( ad nauseum) leveymg May 2016 #112
Why don't we make a wager? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #113
leveymg contends that HRC has broken the law JonLeibowitz May 2016 #129
Will you admit you are making a semantic argument? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #135
Of course I don't admit that; I am trying to show how you are arguing different things JonLeibowitz May 2016 #143
It doesn't matter if I think someone violated the law. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #145
Well in a civil society we have a free exchange of ideas over whether public officials break the law JonLeibowitz May 2016 #146
I believe you missed my edit. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #147
I agree. It is fine to argue that she should be indicted (it is how I read it) JonLeibowitz May 2016 #148
scant means it doesn't meet the probable cause standard hill2016 May 2016 #86
I read it is dangerous to interrupt a person when he or she is dreaming. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #88
lol nt BootinUp May 2016 #97
They cannot let this continue up to the convention. ViseGrip May 2016 #87
Good lord. Parsing words until the words beg for mercy. Buzz Clik May 2016 #89
If words could cry... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #91
I was mocked for saying the Hillary Primary Math ignores the FBI variable demwing May 2016 #93
Battle for what remains of the soul of the Republic. Octafish May 2016 #94
Wow, good call. Bookmarking. nt silvershadow May 2016 #96
Irrelevant. Members of The Club are not accountable for anything n/t eridani May 2016 #98
Move on, folks, nothing to see here. emsimon33 May 2016 #99
Yeah, like "Hillary says Bernie is unQualified to be President." nt Jitter65 May 2016 #100
There are some statutes where intent doesn't even come into play. Skwmom May 2016 #102
Read what Warren said really close. She hasn't ruled out a run. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #103
Your prayer circle called. They need you back for the hourly coin-toss. randome May 2016 #105
Kick kgnu_fan May 2016 #109
Couldn't "scant" mean the ONE SAP email (Special Access Programs). Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #110
Thing is, there were 22 TS/SAP. Even the lowest Classified are illegal leveymg May 2016 #111
Waiting for a Clinton indictment? Don’t hold your breath Gothmog May 2016 #137
Not So Fast! Here: from "The Hill" KoKo May 2016 #153
Deleted duplicate... KoKo May 2016 #154
Anyone who has mentioned that we operate drones in Pakistan has revealed an SAP Recursion May 2016 #169
The Democratic Party du jour chervilant May 2016 #114
You are wrong again Gothmog May 2016 #116
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #122
The air smels of Bernie-suporters' desperation today Tarc May 2016 #139
Hillary Clinton is going to be exonerated on the email controversy. It won’t matter. Gothmog May 2016 #140
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R May 2016 #158
Let's stop playing dumb. Fuddnik May 2016 #141
Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi beachbumbob May 2016 #142
I can't wait NastyRiffraff May 2016 #144
Pathetically, Sanders' acolytes are clinging to Bernie's only path to the nomination- redstateblues May 2016 #152
Well speaktruthtopower May 2016 #155
You're applying the rules of stautory construction ot newspaper copy anigbrowl May 2016 #160
Perhaps creeksneakers2 May 2016 #161
Give it up. You have lost and you're not going to win this way. This is pathetic. pnwmom May 2016 #164
She has the facts and the law against her. As her supporter, start looking for another candidateandi leveymg May 2016 #165
LOLOL. nt pnwmom May 2016 #166
Well, what are your contingency plans? More LOL? leveymg May 2016 #167
Whoever her VP nominee is would be fine. And it won't be Bernie. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #168
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