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55. Well, no surprise the Clintons have done a lot for gays, unlike Bernie
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

Bernie is a gay rights fraud. He never risked political capital on gay rights. He voted against DOMA, but said nothing about it. He supported gay marriage before Hillary, but not until the Vermont legislature legalized it. Not only that, he was from a really liberal state where he could have been much bolder. Bernie is not and has never been part of the gay rights struggle, other than a liberal from a liberal state where he could vote the right way.

Meanwhile, the Clintons faced down the religious and far right, and barred discrimination against people with AIDS or who were gay by federal contractors, granted persecuted gays asylum, fought to prevent Congress from outlawing gay adoption, appointed scores of gays to government positions, Bill talked about gay rights in a State of the Union address, Hillary was the first First Lady to go on a gay pride parade. They got into a lot of trouble, and Bill's efforts to allow gays in the military met a huge backlash that forced him to accept DADT. DOMA, meanwhile, was voted on 6 weeks before the national elections, so the only people who voted against it were liberals from safe districts, like Bernie.

Bernie is all about economic justice. There's a reason that leading organizations and individuals active in gay rights, women's rights, and civil rights have not endorsed him. He's NEVER risked political capital to fight for gay, womens, or civil rights. Given the state he was from, he should have been on the leading edge, but he was not.

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Following in the footsteps of her hero, Nancy Reagan XemaSab May 2016 #1
It would seem that Sanders is taking the Reagan approach to these activists. MADem May 2016 #2
Ah yes, the wing nut commentary Dem2 May 2016 #14
Yes - the Bernie campaign leftynyc May 2016 #78
By doing the exact opposite of what she did? synergie May 2016 #82
That was great and not at all surprising. DURHAM D May 2016 #3
I'm sorry, a CLINTON supporter is going to lecture others kaleckim May 2016 #38
Didn't watch the segment, did you? stopbush May 2016 #42
"They set up a meeting, but then they postpioned and rescheduled. We're really upset." Armstead May 2016 #49
Of course I did kaleckim May 2016 #67
What? An apology/campaign tour? TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #4
Did you see the show? nt DURHAM D May 2016 #6
Which - the one in Simi Valley? TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #9
Obviously, they didn't bother watching the segment. stopbush May 2016 #15
We're the real ones here. Fawke Em May 2016 #21
Whistling past the Sanders nomination graveyard. stopbush May 2016 #25
Hillary stands up for drug companies! Baobab May 2016 #45
You need to take a chill pill. stopbush May 2016 #47
Too expensive, thanks to PHRMA's friends in Washington. Baobab May 2016 #54
I take Humira every month. It's one of those expensive name-brand drugs stopbush May 2016 #61
You love your insurance company, don't you? Baobab May 2016 #62
I'm with UHC, the largest insurer in the contry. stopbush May 2016 #65
Good for you, but you should realize that health insurance is a racket Baobab May 2016 #66
Also, if you live in an endemic area, watch out for fungal infections. Baobab May 2016 #69
the UK government bargained down the price and it pays virtually all of it for Britons. Baobab May 2016 #70
And the private insurance companies in the USA negotiate lower stopbush May 2016 #71
Its my understanding that US trade ideology is against drug price controls both here and elsewhere Baobab May 2016 #72
Why would US insurance companies want drug prices to be high? stopbush May 2016 #74
Its US official policy to fight public health care systems around the world claiming Baobab May 2016 #75
Not that long ago I was friends with a great many research scientists - several of whom worked doing Baobab May 2016 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #79
Sure. I've been through that. I've also been on Medicaid stopbush May 2016 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #88
You need to take your own advice. Bohunk68 May 2016 #58
Hillary needs to be educated, she's been pushing misinformation to a national audience: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #5
Did you see the show? nt DURHAM D May 2016 #7
Another Sanders apologist who loves them their reality free zone. stopbush May 2016 #16
Why would we watch propaganda? Fawke Em May 2016 #22
My word? stopbush May 2016 #26
Says the person getting all their information from uncut, the Young Turks, and berniesanders.com itsrobert May 2016 #29
No, don't watch loaded commentary TV and call it news Bluenorthwest May 2016 #31
It was an interview with Michael Rajner. DURHAM D May 2016 #32
Oh, please......... Beacool May 2016 #28
He's a one trick pony CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #8
Yes, Hillary has many, many tricks up her sleeve... Human101948 May 2016 #27
Bernie lost. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #57
You misspelled "phony". DavidDvorkin May 2016 #30
So now in addition to calling Sanders racist and misogynist mindwalker_i May 2016 #10
So entertaining to watch the desperate sychophants peddle the wares of the establishment. CentralCoaster May 2016 #11
Desperate? Winner. There is not desperation when one won! seabeyond May 2016 #68
Maybe Hillary Clinton has some stuff to try to make amends for... Kall May 2016 #12
Typical Sanders apologist. Don't address Sanders refusing to return stopbush May 2016 #19
Do you have any reason to believe this, other than it was on MSNBC? mikehiggins May 2016 #39
Michael Rajner is pretty well known in activist circles: stopbush May 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #46
Bernie also knew nothing about the PA Senate candidate who endorsed him. He's a bit myopic. CrowCityDem May 2016 #13
They shouldn't even be contacting him. He lost. KingFlorez May 2016 #17
Disagree. He had agreed to meet with them. He canceled. stopbush May 2016 #23
Another pathetic lie that will soon be debunked CoffeeCat May 2016 #18
LMAO. Yes! It's been amazing to watch. polly7 May 2016 #84
LMAO. Like I'd believe a word coming out of Joy Reid's mouth. Fawke Em May 2016 #20
Did you watch the segment? Apparently not. stopbush May 2016 #24
MSNBC claimed 'that's not Bernie in those photos, it's Bruce Rappaport' based on pure Bluenorthwest May 2016 #33
Translation: no, I didn't watch the segment stopbush May 2016 #35
Exactly. What did she do? Find one person who didn't get a call back? smh nt silvershadow May 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #36
YOU "researched it" and say it's a "hit job". oasis May 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #44
It's a hit job Armstead May 2016 #63
Checks in the mail from David Brock Bohunk68 May 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #60
kick MariaThinks May 2016 #37
Bernie got nothing. JaneyVee May 2016 #43
Bernie is really, really getting grouchy. kstewart33 May 2016 #48
Since Tim Robbins singled out Guam stopbush May 2016 #50
i am surprised he hasn't returned the call. hrmjustin May 2016 #51
Multiple calls. stopbush May 2016 #56
I don't seem to remember Bernie extolling Nancy Reagan's work for AIDs/HIV patients azurnoir May 2016 #52
Bernie seems to have interest only in a few things. Demsrule86 May 2016 #53
Well, no surprise the Clintons have done a lot for gays, unlike Bernie Onlooker May 2016 #55
Bernie is really showing his ass lately BluegrassDem May 2016 #64
What a crappy OP. She didn't support equal marriage until after the SCOTUS declared DOMA unconsti- merrily May 2016 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #77
nope. don't watch joy reid anymore hopemountain May 2016 #80
Simple question: why won't Sanders take their calls and reschedule stopbush May 2016 #83
why won't hillary release her transcripts? hopemountain May 2016 #86
Buh bye stopbush May 2016 #87
Bernie Sanders loves AIDS n/t DefenseLawyer May 2016 #85
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