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In reply to the discussion: Reading this forum is like reading "Red State" with a big splash of Alex Jones. [View all]Armstead
(47,803 posts)56. They don't have to -- She praises him and spends Christmas with him
BY Hillary Clinton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clinton-reviews-henry-kissingers-world-order/2014/09/04/b280c654-31ea-11e4-8f02-03c644b2d7d0_story.html
In his new book, World Order, Henry Kissinger explains the historic scope of this challenge. His analysis, despite some differences over specific policies, largely fits with the broad strategy behind the Obama administrations effort over the past six years to build a global architecture of security and cooperation for the 21st century.,,,
....Nonetheless, many people around the world today especially millions of young people dont know these success stories, so it becomes our responsibility to show as well as tell what American leadership looks like. This is especially important at a time when many are wondering, as Kissinger puts it, Are we facing a period in which forces beyond the restraints of any order determine the future?
....Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state. He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels. Though we have often seen the world and some of our challenges quite differently, and advocated different responses now and in the past, what comes through clearly in this new book is a conviction that we, and President Obama, share: a belief in the indispensability of continued American leadership in service of a just and liberal order. There really is no viable alternative...
.... A real national dialogue is the only way were going to rebuild a political consensus to take on the perils and the promise of the 21st century. Henry Kissingers book makes a compelling case for why we have to do it and how we can succeed.
....Nonetheless, many people around the world today especially millions of young people dont know these success stories, so it becomes our responsibility to show as well as tell what American leadership looks like. This is especially important at a time when many are wondering, as Kissinger puts it, Are we facing a period in which forces beyond the restraints of any order determine the future?
....Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state. He checked in with me regularly, sharing astute observations about foreign leaders and sending me written reports on his travels. Though we have often seen the world and some of our challenges quite differently, and advocated different responses now and in the past, what comes through clearly in this new book is a conviction that we, and President Obama, share: a belief in the indispensability of continued American leadership in service of a just and liberal order. There really is no viable alternative...
.... A real national dialogue is the only way were going to rebuild a political consensus to take on the perils and the promise of the 21st century. Henry Kissingers book makes a compelling case for why we have to do it and how we can succeed.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/hillary-clinton-kissinger-vacation-dominican-republic-de-la-renta
.....With all this history, it was curious that in 2014, Clinton wrote a fawning review of Kissinger's latest book and observed, "America, he reminds us, succeeds by standing up for our values, not shirking them, and leads by engaging peoples and societies, the sources of legitimacy, not governments alone." In that article, she called Kissinger, who had been a practitioner of a bloody foreign-policy realpolitik, "surprisingly idealistic."
This Clinton lovefest with Kissinger is not new. And it is not simply a product of professional courtesy or solidarity among former secretaries of state, who, after all, are part of a small club. There is also a strong social connection between the Clintons and the Kissingers. They pal around together. On June 3, 2013, Hillary Clinton presented an award to de la Renta, a good friend who for years had provided her dresses and fashion advice, and then the two of them hopped over to a 90th birthday party for Kissinger. The Clintons and Kissingers appear to spend a chunk of their quality time together at that de la Renta estate in the Punta Cana resort.... Last year, the Associated Press noted that this is where the Clintons take their annual Christmas holiday. And other press reports in the United States and the Dominican Republic have pointed out that the Kissingers are often part of the gang the de la Rentas have hosted each year. When Oscar de la Renta died in 2014, the New York Times obituary reported:
At holidays, the de la Rentas filled their house in Punta Cana with relatives and friends, notably Bill and Hillary Clinton, Nancy and Henry Kissinger, and the art historian John Richardson. .....
In 2012, the Wall Street Journal, in a profile of de la Renta, wrote:
Over Christmas the Kissingers were among the close group who gathered in Punta Cana, including Barbara Walters, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Charlie Rose. "We have two house rules," says Oscar, laughing. "There can be no conversation of any substance and nothing nice about anyone."
A travel industry outlet reported that Vogue editor..... Last April, the Weekly Standard noted that the Clintons had spent a week around the previous New Year's at Punta Canta and that Secret Service protection for the trip had cost $104,000. It was during this vacation that Hillary Clinton reportedly decided to run for president for the second time.
This gathering of the Clintons, the Kissingers, and the de la Rentas seems to occur most years. In 2011, de la Renta, a native of the Dominican Republic, told Vogue that he built this seaside estate so he could host his close friends, and he cited the Kissingers and Clintons as examples. "At Christmas," he said, "we're always in the same group.".
This Clinton lovefest with Kissinger is not new. And it is not simply a product of professional courtesy or solidarity among former secretaries of state, who, after all, are part of a small club. There is also a strong social connection between the Clintons and the Kissingers. They pal around together. On June 3, 2013, Hillary Clinton presented an award to de la Renta, a good friend who for years had provided her dresses and fashion advice, and then the two of them hopped over to a 90th birthday party for Kissinger. The Clintons and Kissingers appear to spend a chunk of their quality time together at that de la Renta estate in the Punta Cana resort.... Last year, the Associated Press noted that this is where the Clintons take their annual Christmas holiday. And other press reports in the United States and the Dominican Republic have pointed out that the Kissingers are often part of the gang the de la Rentas have hosted each year. When Oscar de la Renta died in 2014, the New York Times obituary reported:
At holidays, the de la Rentas filled their house in Punta Cana with relatives and friends, notably Bill and Hillary Clinton, Nancy and Henry Kissinger, and the art historian John Richardson. .....
In 2012, the Wall Street Journal, in a profile of de la Renta, wrote:
Over Christmas the Kissingers were among the close group who gathered in Punta Cana, including Barbara Walters, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Charlie Rose. "We have two house rules," says Oscar, laughing. "There can be no conversation of any substance and nothing nice about anyone."
A travel industry outlet reported that Vogue editor..... Last April, the Weekly Standard noted that the Clintons had spent a week around the previous New Year's at Punta Canta and that Secret Service protection for the trip had cost $104,000. It was during this vacation that Hillary Clinton reportedly decided to run for president for the second time.
This gathering of the Clintons, the Kissingers, and the de la Rentas seems to occur most years. In 2011, de la Renta, a native of the Dominican Republic, told Vogue that he built this seaside estate so he could host his close friends, and he cited the Kissingers and Clintons as examples. "At Christmas," he said, "we're always in the same group.".
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/12/hillary-clintons-ties-to-henry-kissinger-come-back-to-haunt-her/
When Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, she relied on Henry A. Kissingers counsel. He would send her astute observations about foreign leaders and written reports on his travels. She would joke with him that smartphones would have made his covert Cold War trip to Beijing impossible.
The two diplomats had a cordial, warm and respectful relationship, based on writings about their interactions during Mrs. Clintons tenure at the State Department.
Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state, Mrs. Clinton wrote in The Washington Post, in a positive review of his book World Order......
The two diplomats had a cordial, warm and respectful relationship, based on writings about their interactions during Mrs. Clintons tenure at the State Department.
Kissinger is a friend, and I relied on his counsel when I served as secretary of state, Mrs. Clinton wrote in The Washington Post, in a positive review of his book World Order......
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boston bean
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OP
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Hare Krishna
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I'm shocked, shocked that the Pentagon would give a former Secretary of State
msanthrope
May 2016
#18
I don't think there is a fucking soul on this website that praises Henry Kissinger.
boston bean
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#21
Looking at myself for what? Me praising Henry Kissinger? You best be able to provide some proof of
boston bean
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#28
I said "looking AROUND yourself". as in, finding the comments, Bean.
Warren DeMontague
May 2016
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Yeah i did...She was saying very nice things about Kissinger, and praising his view of the world..
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Bluenorthwest
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere
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To me it's all noise caused by sour grapes of a losing candidate supporters
beachbumbob
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Interesting -- I would say the same thing -- but for the opposite reasons you have
Armstead
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True. You folks ought to cut it out with the "free stuff" memes, the support of
TheKentuckian
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