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votesparks

(1,288 posts)
63. As a rust belter
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

You couldn't possibly be more wrong. The resentment is widespread and goes across all demographics, because people watched trade deals destroy their communities and families. How hard is this to understand?

Do you walk to the store and see half of the buildings boarded up?

We do. That affects the psyche of everyone who lives in these areas, and not in a positive way.

On the issue of economics, they are rightfully resentful.

I campaign in majority minority communities all the time. The resentment is also heavy among older minorities who formerly worked in manufacturing and industry, who watched their jobs shipped off, and their communities fall apart due to neoliberal free trade deals, which made the rust belt rusty.

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Good. Because the Third Wayer empty suits have screwed us for far too long. PatrickforO May 2016 #1
Yes, yes, I know: white people everywhere want stuff "back" Recursion May 2016 #3
Why the uggliness nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #6
Because the resentment is ugly and Sanders hasn't been ashamed to tap into it Recursion May 2016 #8
Because the young kids are all white? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #11
Because the resentful middle-aged people in the rust belt are all white (nt) Recursion May 2016 #15
But the kids in HI for example are not white nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #19
Did I say they were white? Recursion May 2016 #21
Because you are exagerating what you are seeing nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #24
Why do you keep bringing up Hawaii? That has absolutely nothing to do with the rust belt Recursion May 2016 #26
Because it has all to do with the shitty race baiting from people like you nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #32
It's absolutely not a shared narrative. It's entirely white. Look: Recursion May 2016 #33
As usual you are misusing charts nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #43
It was a Bernie supporter lancer78 May 2016 #55
And that could be taken ten ways to Sunday nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #56
As a rust belter votesparks May 2016 #63
Chicago, Detroit, etc are all white? pinebox May 2016 #74
And middle aged white people don't matter....Hoooookay Armstead May 2016 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #17
If you want to ignore the supremacist sentiment behind "I want my (whatever) back", feel free Recursion May 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #25
And there's a reason I didn't vote for Clinton in the primary Recursion May 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #38
The reason you see that is the Bankers and Wall Street stole every god-darned thing silvershadow May 2016 #46
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It is what they know and then they call Bernie Supporters racist nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #22
I agree Fairgo May 2016 #54
even centrist economists agree FTAs harm the US economy; Bernie presents facts amborin May 2016 #28
That's completely untrue Recursion May 2016 #29
Yay the racism charge again. That Guy 888 May 2016 #39
No, no. You know fuckall if that's your takeaway. frylock May 2016 #44
I won't pick up your corporate trash. Litter bug.... think May 2016 #50
Sanders won the most diverse state in the nation. Ash_F May 2016 #57
Off to Ignore with you and that steaming load of race-baiting shit. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #70
What a disgusting statement pinebox May 2016 #73
Race or ethnicity has nothing to do with it. Substitute working class for white and you will be PatrickforO May 2016 #80
This!^^^^^^10000! 2banon May 2016 #37
Do they have second ballots like GOP? yeoman6987 May 2016 #47
That would only happen if a bunch of the supers sit out the first round, or vote for someone else Recursion May 2016 #53
why ugly? 50% plus one = winner nt msongs May 2016 #2
Have you seen the past few months? Recursion May 2016 #4
Just a note on your analysis nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #5
Right, but NDPs might have been tempted to get an R ballot to vote for (or against) Trump Recursion May 2016 #7
They could not nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #9
The deadline is May 23rd, or did you mean something else. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #10
Earlhy voting already started nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #12
15 days before the primary. I know because we have been registering people. Live and Learn May 2016 #14
I cover this shit, I have not registered a single voter, but I hope nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #16
I know you do which is why I thought I misunderstood. We have reigstered thousands of people. Live and Learn May 2016 #20
We have so many balls in the air nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #23
My error, you are correct nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #13
Hillary and the Democratic Party need to embrace Sanders supporters instead of Republicans. That is highprincipleswork May 2016 #30
Maybe, maybe not: that's an arithmetic question Recursion May 2016 #31
Bullshit. The perception is that is where the voters are, but that is a Reagan era perpetrated highprincipleswork May 2016 #34
I realize you very strongly believe that. Gallup says you're wrong Recursion May 2016 #36
You and I don't read the same polls. And if you don't think the reality of what most people think highprincipleswork May 2016 #42
63% of Americans think the minimum wage should be $15 by 2020 Ash_F May 2016 #61
"attract Republicans even with Progressive positions" Beartracks May 2016 #35
lets say that this works out the way you see it lapfog_1 May 2016 #40
I'm going to guess that Senator Warren has no desire to be Hillary Clinton's VP. CentralMass May 2016 #45
So basically what you're saying is that CoffeeCat May 2016 #41
Clinton lost by 62 pledged delegates in 2008. joshcryer May 2016 #48
I'm more pessimistic than you Recursion May 2016 #49
Fair enough. You can't predict the ethics of some "supporters." joshcryer May 2016 #51
Ethics.... think May 2016 #52
This is not fully comparable to 2008. Ash_F May 2016 #58
Sanders is not less ethical than Clinton was in 2008. joshcryer May 2016 #60
"It's a matter of unifying of becoming a pariah."... SidDithers May 2016 #65
It has nothing to with ethics, it's just the process. morningfog May 2016 #66
She could have used that strong support as a mandate to promote her vision. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #79
It's not going to happen. Sanders is running out of money now. BreakfastClub May 2016 #59
I think that would be a positive and LWolf May 2016 #62
And after a six month blackout, and polling ahead of Trump, he does have a strong case. ViseGrip May 2016 #64
Slim chance texstad79 May 2016 #67
. B Calm May 2016 #68
When has the Vermont independent won a state as large and heterogeneous as CA by 20% DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #69
There is no State as large as CA, so your question is specious. Hillary beat Barack by 8.3% Bluenorthwest May 2016 #72
I think that's a great scenario for many reasons. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #71
With the republican nomination sewed up and California being "semi-closed", its quite possible.... George II May 2016 #75
I don't see this as a worst case scenario at all. aikoaiko May 2016 #76
Hillary needs 148 delegates, now seriously, do you really think she will not get 148 more delegates? Thinkingabout May 2016 #78
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