2016 Postmortem

ViseGrip

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64. And after a six month blackout, and polling ahead of Trump, he does have a strong case.

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The worst possible outcome will be a series of strong Sanders victories that just come up short [View all] Recursion May 2016 OP

Good. Because the Third Wayer empty suits have screwed us for far too long. PatrickforO May 2016 #1

Yes, yes, I know: white people everywhere want stuff "back" Recursion May 2016 #3

Why the uggliness nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #6

Because the resentment is ugly and Sanders hasn't been ashamed to tap into it Recursion May 2016 #8

Because the young kids are all white? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #11

Because the resentful middle-aged people in the rust belt are all white (nt) Recursion May 2016 #15

But the kids in HI for example are not white nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #19

Did I say they were white? Recursion May 2016 #21

Because you are exagerating what you are seeing nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #24

Why do you keep bringing up Hawaii? That has absolutely nothing to do with the rust belt Recursion May 2016 #26

Because it has all to do with the shitty race baiting from people like you nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #32

It's absolutely not a shared narrative. It's entirely white. Look: Recursion May 2016 #33

As usual you are misusing charts nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #43

It was a Bernie supporter lancer78 May 2016 #55

And that could be taken ten ways to Sunday nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #56

As a rust belter votesparks May 2016 #63

Chicago, Detroit, etc are all white? pinebox May 2016 #74

And middle aged white people don't matter....Hoooookay Armstead May 2016 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #17

If you want to ignore the supremacist sentiment behind "I want my (whatever) back", feel free Recursion May 2016 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #25

And there's a reason I didn't vote for Clinton in the primary Recursion May 2016 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #38

The reason you see that is the Bankers and Wall Street stole every god-darned thing silvershadow May 2016 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #81

It is what they know and then they call Bernie Supporters racist nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #22

I agree Fairgo May 2016 #54

even centrist economists agree FTAs harm the US economy; Bernie presents facts amborin May 2016 #28

That's completely untrue Recursion May 2016 #29

Yay the racism charge again. That Guy 888 May 2016 #39

No, no. You know fuckall if that's your takeaway. frylock May 2016 #44

I won't pick up your corporate trash. Litter bug.... think May 2016 #50

Sanders won the most diverse state in the nation. Ash_F May 2016 #57

Off to Ignore with you and that steaming load of race-baiting shit. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #70

What a disgusting statement pinebox May 2016 #73

Race or ethnicity has nothing to do with it. Substitute working class for white and you will be PatrickforO May 2016 #80

This!^^^^^^10000! 2banon May 2016 #37

Do they have second ballots like GOP? yeoman6987 May 2016 #47

That would only happen if a bunch of the supers sit out the first round, or vote for someone else Recursion May 2016 #53

why ugly? 50% plus one = winner nt msongs May 2016 #2

Have you seen the past few months? Recursion May 2016 #4

Just a note on your analysis nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #5

Right, but NDPs might have been tempted to get an R ballot to vote for (or against) Trump Recursion May 2016 #7

They could not nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #9

The deadline is May 23rd, or did you mean something else. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #10

Earlhy voting already started nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #12

15 days before the primary. I know because we have been registering people. Live and Learn May 2016 #14

I cover this shit, I have not registered a single voter, but I hope nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #16

I know you do which is why I thought I misunderstood. We have reigstered thousands of people. Live and Learn May 2016 #20

We have so many balls in the air nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #23

My error, you are correct nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #13

Hillary and the Democratic Party need to embrace Sanders supporters instead of Republicans. That is highprincipleswork May 2016 #30

Maybe, maybe not: that's an arithmetic question Recursion May 2016 #31

Bullshit. The perception is that is where the voters are, but that is a Reagan era perpetrated highprincipleswork May 2016 #34

I realize you very strongly believe that. Gallup says you're wrong Recursion May 2016 #36

You and I don't read the same polls. And if you don't think the reality of what most people think highprincipleswork May 2016 #42

63% of Americans think the minimum wage should be $15 by 2020 Ash_F May 2016 #61

"attract Republicans even with Progressive positions" Beartracks May 2016 #35

lets say that this works out the way you see it lapfog_1 May 2016 #40

I'm going to guess that Senator Warren has no desire to be Hillary Clinton's VP. CentralMass May 2016 #45

So basically what you're saying is that CoffeeCat May 2016 #41

Clinton lost by 62 pledged delegates in 2008. joshcryer May 2016 #48

I'm more pessimistic than you Recursion May 2016 #49

Fair enough. You can't predict the ethics of some "supporters." joshcryer May 2016 #51

Ethics.... think May 2016 #52

This is not fully comparable to 2008. Ash_F May 2016 #58

Sanders is not less ethical than Clinton was in 2008. joshcryer May 2016 #60

"It's a matter of unifying of becoming a pariah."... SidDithers May 2016 #65

It has nothing to with ethics, it's just the process. morningfog May 2016 #66

She could have used that strong support as a mandate to promote her vision. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #79

It's not going to happen. Sanders is running out of money now. BreakfastClub May 2016 #59

I think that would be a positive and LWolf May 2016 #62

And after a six month blackout, and polling ahead of Trump, he does have a strong case. ViseGrip May 2016 #64

Slim chance texstad79 May 2016 #67

. B Calm May 2016 #68

When has the Vermont independent won a state as large and heterogeneous as CA by 20% DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #69

There is no State as large as CA, so your question is specious. Hillary beat Barack by 8.3% Bluenorthwest May 2016 #72

I think that's a great scenario for many reasons. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #71

With the republican nomination sewed up and California being "semi-closed", its quite possible.... George II May 2016 #75

I don't see this as a worst case scenario at all. aikoaiko May 2016 #76

Hillary needs 148 delegates, now seriously, do you really think she will not get 148 more delegates? Thinkingabout May 2016 #78