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2016 Postmortem

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Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
40. Even evolution works in quantum jumps.
Thu May 12, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

I was listening to something this week regarding evolution, and I was hearing my thoughts on this election, as i read it.

Today i listened to a great history of how we went from the socialists and communists having political clout in America, from the 1800's right up until the death of FDR around 1945, at which time the dismantling of the New Deal began.

So what I've learned is that Bernie's campaign is simply trying to bring us back to what once was normal American politics.

It keeps coming back to me over and over that this election is like trying to sober a drunk who doesn't see his situation as problematic.

The bottom line is climate change. But the trouble is, if we don't take action immediately, and wait until we see more serious symptoms, it will be too late. It's already too late, but we don't care about millions who live in poverty. Like Bangladesh. Originally we were to keep temperatures from rising 1.5C, in order to save the suffering of millions. But it was too inconvenient, and they bumped it to 2C. Already, we're backing away from the inconvenient truth.

We have literally devolved as a nation, since the last days of FDR. But like many diseases, we didn't feel it happening, and can't see it as it is now.

I'm somewhat frustrated, as I thought if one presented logical arguments, results would follow. That isn't happening, from what I see.

All I can think of is the last words in Bridge On The River Kwai. "Madness".

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Grapes [View all] H2O Man May 2016 OP
Fantastic essay. I agree with every word. K&R myrna minx May 2016 #1
Thank you! H2O Man May 2016 #2
Giving your flamebait a wide pass. procon May 2016 #3
Or, then again, H2O Man May 2016 #5
Hard to tell when you use a clickbait title like "Grapes", yeah? procon May 2016 #11
Silly you. H2O Man May 2016 #18
Yes, because that would be the expectation in GD: P. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #31
I guess I H2O Man May 2016 #33
Concord. Without a doubt. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #36
! H2O Man May 2016 #38
Read your OP twice, failed to find the derogatory phrases. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #44
Right. H2O Man May 2016 #47
When Sensitive soul May 2016 #48
good one JumpinJehosaphat May 2016 #49
funny... i saw nothing derogatory tk2kewl May 2016 #10
It's a two way street, yeah? procon May 2016 #13
again, what is derogatory about the OP? tk2kewl May 2016 #15
Call it speculation H2O Man May 2016 #19
maybe they just don't like grapes tk2kewl May 2016 #20
A case of H2O Man May 2016 #22
Of course you don't, and that's symptomatic of a larger problem. procon May 2016 #23
so what am i missing? tk2kewl May 2016 #24
A pattern emerges: H2O Man May 2016 #27
I'm with you tk2kewl May 2016 #35
It is curious H2O Man May 2016 #39
Precision of Language, please. Thanks for the OP. I think you could be right! Hiraeth May 2016 #4
Thank you! H2O Man May 2016 #7
Agreed. mmonk May 2016 #6
Right. H2O Man May 2016 #8
Most excellent post! mindwalker_i May 2016 #9
Exactly. H2O Man May 2016 #21
See is also too much a part of the system mindwalker_i May 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #53
What it comes down to is the radical solutions are the only ones that offer even a modicum of hope Vincardog May 2016 #12
what it has come down to... tk2kewl May 2016 #14
Our politicians are not scientists but their donnors hate scientists. Vincardog May 2016 #16
sometimes they like to play doctor though tk2kewl May 2016 #17
If they hate them so much hootinholler May 2016 #37
They want them to lie for them why else? Vincardog May 2016 #54
Well said. H2O Man May 2016 #34
Thank you for the excellent OP. Vincardog May 2016 #55
Excellent Post! jpmonk91 May 2016 #26
Beautiful! H2O Man May 2016 #28
Thank You! jpmonk91 May 2016 #29
I've got another H2O Man May 2016 #30
Exactly jpmonk91 May 2016 #32
Even evolution works in quantum jumps. Gregorian May 2016 #40
Thanks, Gregorian! H2O Man May 2016 #42
Grapes of Wrath countryjake May 2016 #41
Thanks, countryjake H2O Man May 2016 #43
As always... Liberal Jesus Freak May 2016 #45
Thank you. H2O Man May 2016 #46
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #50
Thanks, Uncle Joe H2O Man May 2016 #61
hope springs eternal MFM008 May 2016 #51
Incisive commentary, to be sure. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #52
Thank you H2O Man May 2016 #62
OK, I'll ask again PATRICK May 2016 #56
Interesting. H2O Man May 2016 #63
The Party establishment has stepped too far right JEB May 2016 #68
You forgot the other group of alleged democrats.. fun n serious May 2016 #57
That is two groups. H2O Man May 2016 #64
The group I am talking about is a unique fun n serious May 2016 #69
Where would you put President Obama in your "conservative", "moderate", "liberal", "progressive" Nye Bevan May 2016 #58
Right leaning moderate. It's Bernie's Bizarro World. nt LexVegas May 2016 #60
Fair question. H2O Man May 2016 #65
I have news for you Demsrule86 May 2016 #59
gosh H2O Man May 2016 #66
I always appreciate your respect for clarity G_j May 2016 #67
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