2016 Postmortem

emsimon33

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119. I agree

Thu May 12, 2016, 06:45 PM

May 2016

And the protesters may be Trump supporters. Inside, no; outside, OK. However, I was living in Portland, OR, when Bush came to visit once and the "free speech area" was so far removed that it was invisible. It seems that at certain times in our history as a country, while freedom of speech is "protected" by the Constitution, it is viewed as "better not to be seen or heard."

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Bernie Sanders encourages and urges people to protest Hillary Clinton events (Maddow interview) [View all] ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 OP

Is that a problem? Are you against civil protest? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #1

Not even in the most intense part of the 2008 primary did you see Barack or Hillary urge people ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #3

That's because they were both Democrats and respected each other. Beacool May 2016 #5

Hispanic groups don't protest Sanders policies AgingAmerican May 2016 #117

So you're against civil protest? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #8

It hasn't happened in a Democratic primary in the last 20 years. ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #12

So you're against civil protest? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #15

So, you couldn't provide another example. That's what I thought. ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #20

So you're against civil protest? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #21

Fascists... tonedevil May 2016 #37

The irony is incredible. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #64

This is NOT civil protest ucrdem May 2016 #41

Of course that is civil protest. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #45

These stock photos appear civil but what happened at ELAC was not civil. ucrdem May 2016 #50

So is it OK to protest Trump? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #54

The phrase you keep repeating is "civil protest" which is descriptive ucrdem May 2016 #63

The leader of the Khmer Rouge was missing a leg. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #71

And they risk hurting our movement. Constitutional or not.They are being jerks representing a major Tiggeroshii May 2016 #84

Yes, protest is fine, but harassing attendees is counterproductive and anti-democratic. ucrdem May 2016 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii May 2016 #85

The protest at that speech took place in a free speech zone on a California campus. JDPriestly May 2016 #97

If you watch the video of the protest, you realize that the protestors were above on JDPriestly May 2016 #96

You may be too young to remember the 60s and 70s but this is civil protest emsimon33 May 2016 #98

Okay but there's a difference: the civil rights protesters targeted policies, not fellow students. ucrdem May 2016 #102

Hillary represents the neo-liberalism and corporatism that has befallen the Party emsimon33 May 2016 #115

He didn't "urge" them to do anything. Misleading. John Poet May 2016 #69

They don't even know what this country is about. Clueless. nt silvershadow May 2016 #116

The DNC has not attempted to take the side of one candidate against another candidate JDPriestly May 2016 #95

However, if the protests go on, I bet the DNC, etc. will do what Bush did... emsimon33 May 2016 #99

The protestors outside WERE in a designated free speech area. JDPriestly May 2016 #101

I agree emsimon33 May 2016 #119

Oh they act like this is horrific. I'd hate to think how some of them would act if they ever silvershadow May 2016 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #17

I don't think anyone knew just how much bombing they were going to get up to in 2008 Ash_F May 2016 #79

California campuses have free speech areas. The protest against Hillary took place JDPriestly May 2016 #93

Yelling and screaming abuse and obscenties at families with children is not civil protest. synergie May 2016 #77

So protests should stop the second a child or disabled person appears? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #86

It is the exercise of free speech. It may not be wise, but it is freedom of speech, a very JDPriestly May 2016 #94

Why do you hate free speech? coyote May 2016 #2

Not even Howard Dean told his supporters to protest John Kerry's events ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #4

Bernie doesn't tell us what to do. Protest has always been an American right and has been used Live and Learn May 2016 #16

Bernie just condoned and urged his supporters to protest Hillary Clinton events. ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #18

I don't see any urging. Maybe you need some new glasses. Live and Learn May 2016 #22

Are you against civil protest? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #25

Why do you think yelling obscenities at little children and making them cry is "free speech"? synergie May 2016 #78

... Puglover May 2016 #107

Bernie encourages people to stand up for what is right. And you have a problem with that? Live and Learn May 2016 #6

And yelling swear words at little kids through a megaphone and making them cry, and synergie May 2016 #82

THINK OF THE CHILDREN! Don't want your kids to hear the truth, keep them home! nt Live and Learn May 2016 #83

You gonna ride on them with your honor guard? frylock May 2016 #7

I am glad to see you fixed your spelling mistake. nt ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #14

Yes, that was unfortunate. frylock May 2016 #19

Would you like me to send you a copy of the US Constitution? jillan May 2016 #9

There's a certain level of civility required to maintain Tiggeroshii May 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #24

Forget it man, they're rolling Prism May 2016 #31

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It was hilarious Prism May 2016 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #58

Let me tell you a story. It's lovely. Prism May 2016 #75

A great bit of DU history. Puglover May 2016 #109

That was truly a great moment in DU history. QC May 2016 #114

No the guy in the video was saying " Fuck you, guera!" not "guerra" LuvLoogie May 2016 #36

They were shouting it at my wife. They said "fuck you,'' before saying "pinche guera" Tiggeroshii May 2016 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #67

I encourage Hillary supporters to protest Bernie as well. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #11

Sanders supports the First Amendment and Clinton supporters think it's a scandal? Prism May 2016 #13

.+1 840high May 2016 #90

why do you hate democracy? amborin May 2016 #23

echoes of Uribe's Colombia (which HRC upheld): silence those protestin union workers: murder them amborin May 2016 #26

This is why Mr. Sanders, you are NOT qualified to be President, and why I will NEVER vote for you still_one May 2016 #27

Because you're against protesting? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #30

They were disrupting the speech. If it was just protesting I have no problem with it still_one May 2016 #32

The speech was indoors...there was no disruption. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #33

That isn't what RawStory says still_one May 2016 #34

It doesn't say that at all. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #35

Here is a short expert where she was talking to her supporters, and they interrupted still_one May 2016 #38

That was from March. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #39

You are correct. The disruption occurred when she went to speak to the crowd outside still_one May 2016 #51

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Its what it is still_one May 2016 #56

So when she's out in public it still isn't OK to protest? bobbobbins01 May 2016 #57

I already acknowledged that, and admitted my error still_one May 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #44

That is what the responder told me. I am not going to self-delete, so the continuity remains, in still_one May 2016 #48

It isn't caused by Bernie. It is caused by the discourse this country has been at. Just visceral Tiggeroshii May 2016 #66

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They made an elderly woman break down into tears. And the kid -as you see. Tiggeroshii May 2016 #80

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people have been apathetic sheep too long- they need to protest blatant corruption larkrake May 2016 #28

What a surprise GulfCoast66 May 2016 #29

Bernie supporters lancer78 May 2016 #52

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Autumn May 2016 #40

Harassing disabled citizens attempting to exercise their franchise is bad, yes. ucrdem May 2016 #42

Oh the horror of a protest, I see no one harassing that woman in the wheelchair. Autumn May 2016 #61

"We're not encouraging people to disrupt meetings" lancer78 May 2016 #46

sanders is running interference for donald trump these days? msongs May 2016 #47

This is no longer about YOU MFM008 May 2016 #53

Considering Hillary/Kissingers desire to get a lot of us killed... JPnoodleman May 2016 #59

This is such a bizarre statement. It's based on feelings rather than information underthematrix May 2016 #62

Don't own a TV actually, so I don't watch any news stations. n/t JPnoodleman May 2016 #68

This is good news. i would spend more time reading history books, especially underthematrix May 2016 #73

I am working on an advance degree in History. JPnoodleman May 2016 #74

That's so cool. I love love history. i wish you the best. underthematrix May 2016 #76

Tsk. Tsk. Poor Hillary has to meet the constitution. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #65

How dare anyone protest the Clinton policies that are killing them. SUPER-PREDATORS, all of them. n Live and Learn May 2016 #81

I'm not a Sanders fan, nolawarlock May 2016 #87

I bet he put alot of authoritarians in a tizzy! Go Bernie! Kip Humphrey May 2016 #88

And? AzDar May 2016 #92

Glad to see him defending our rights, even if I don't plan to protest. nt silvershadow May 2016 #100

Bernie Sanders encourages and urges people to protest Hillary Clinton events (Maddow interview) jmousso75 May 2016 #103

"absolutely appropriate" - so he approves and is encouraging the profanity-laden DrDan May 2016 #104

We will have to keep the pro-Trump and the pro-Bernie protesters separated pampango May 2016 #105

Are you against free speach rights? Duckhunter935 May 2016 #106

"encourage" Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #108

Well, free speech is free speech. As long as they are outside the venue and non-violent Tarc May 2016 #110

I can't find the part about "urging." freedom fighter jh May 2016 #111

It's called FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Get over it, or remove the clause from the Constitution. nt NorthCarolina May 2016 #112

I have no issue with what he said Dem2 May 2016 #113

Not surprising Stuckinthebush May 2016 #120