2016 Postmortem

DLCWIdem

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172. open primaries

Fri May 13, 2016, 12:56 AM

May 2016

Last edited Fri May 13, 2016, 01:29 AM - Edit history (1)

Clinton
Alabama
Arkansas
Georgia
Tennesee
Texas
Virginia
Mississippi
Illinois
Missouri

Sander
Indiana
Wisconsin
Michigan
Vermont

Semi-open/closed primaries
Clinton
Massachusetts
Ohio
No. Carolina

Sanders
RI, NH,OK

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So what Bernie is essentially saying is -- [View all] pnwmom May 2016 OP

Bernie is just another politician redstateblues May 2016 #1

Yup...his ego is obviously in control. anotherproletariat May 2016 #8

You were never sympathetic, don't kid yourself. JPnoodleman May 2016 #22

True, it's hard to be totally sympathetic as a 1%er... nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #24

JP, "fealty?" What's in your head? Hortensis May 2016 #88

Fealty??? Have you lost your mind? I swear fealty to no one - not Hillary or Bernie. Stand and Fight May 2016 #141

I said similar yesterday, Nader and Sanders seem very self centered and non team players uponit7771 May 2016 #47

yeah he's not on the Monsanto/Goldman/Comcast/UBS/Clinton team Armstead May 2016 #74

In effect Demsrule86 May 2016 #75

I'm glad you exhibit such "kindness and love" towards a legitimate Democratic candidate who.... Armstead May 2016 #82

He wants to overturn Demsrule86 May 2016 #163

Clinton said similar things in 2008 -- and the primary is still going on Armstead May 2016 #164

Yeap, a notable number of Sanders folk will vote for Trump too... not really impressed with the left uponit7771 May 2016 #86

At least you're honest. You, like your Clinton supporters are not left leaning. nm floriduck May 2016 #109

sanctimonious much? uponit7771 May 2016 #117

Yup. Sparkly May 2016 #145

He's on the "we'll see" team in regards to supporting down ballot dems the rest of your post uponit7771 May 2016 #85

Yeah, I'm sure you really were "sympathetic" to the dirty hippies and commies on the left Armstead May 2016 #73

I'm not aware of the context of those terms, I'm too young but my exposure to the far left isn't uponit7771 May 2016 #87

If you're not aware of the context..... Armstead May 2016 #93

I did, still doesn't change the fact that in my life time the far left efforts have been pyric at... uponit7771 May 2016 #105

I'm right there with you. Sparkly May 2016 #153

What is this constant nonsensical zero-context preaching about "The Left?" Sparkly May 2016 #146

I'm not the one who was sniping at "the Left" Armstead May 2016 #148

Pardon me. Sparkly May 2016 #151

I am the one who said that-- Please read what i was responding to Armstead May 2016 #158

I can understand Sparkly May 2016 #160

All right...as my brother and i used to say after walloping each other...."Truce" Armstead May 2016 #161

I like both our candidates GulfCoast66 May 2016 #175

I am familiar with that plan and what happened Armstead May 2016 #182

Has anyone said otherwise? NWCorona May 2016 #16

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #45

Lol. Bitter. cali May 2016 #72

An average politician with all the accompanying flaws. Buzz Clik May 2016 #79

That's called Undemocratic Socialism Renew Deal May 2016 #2

Reminds me of someone in 2008 Armstead May 2016 #84

strawman GreatGazoo May 2016 #3

Bernie's strawman. Obnoxious, isn't it? Buzz Clik May 2016 #80

It sounds entirely reasonable to me. Ron Green May 2016 #4

Cool. So, in order to win, you encourage Bernie to rig the system in his favor. Oh, dear. Buzz Clik May 2016 #81

Let's not pretend the system is other than rigged now. Ron Green May 2016 #92

Unlike the rest of us who want our kids and grandkids to rot in an environmental and social hell. Buzz Clik May 2016 #95

To be honest I can't tell why anyone with grandkids would want Ron Green May 2016 #96

Yep. Mass suicide is the only solution. Buzz Clik May 2016 #97

Your sarcasm may work for you somehow, Ron Green May 2016 #98

WHY WHY WHY? seekthetruth May 2016 #156

Projection AgingAmerican May 2016 #131

You're clinging to that 6-week old article? He was 286 delegates down the day that was written. Buzz Clik May 2016 #133

But in order for yr caniddate Hillary to win, she is now truedelphi May 2016 #176

Can you hear the sirens of countless wahmbulances tonight? timmymoff May 2016 #5

Check the scoreboard, timmy. Buzz Clik May 2016 #83

Enjoy the two republican frontrunners timmymoff May 2016 #118

If Clinton is not a Democratic, and Sanders never has been, .... Buzz Clik May 2016 #120

Bernie Sanders is a small d Democrat AgingAmerican May 2016 #132

"Whatever that is." It's been in the political lexicon for 200 years. Buzz Clik May 2016 #134

What is the ideology of 'Moderate'? AgingAmerican May 2016 #135

Let me explain: Buzz Clik May 2016 #136

So you have no idea either... AgingAmerican May 2016 #138

No. It's time for you to do your own research. I don't play fetch. Buzz Clik May 2016 #139

I googled it AgingAmerican May 2016 #140

I googled "bullshit." Your picture popped up. How odd. Buzz Clik May 2016 #142

See for yourself... AgingAmerican May 2016 #143

One has democratic principles timmymoff May 2016 #144

Yep it's her turn. She has almost 300 more delegates than Bernie. She has around all american girl May 2016 #112

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #6

I second the strawman call nt AntiBank May 2016 #7

Bernie's strawman. Second away... Buzz Clik May 2016 #78

I think you need to look up the definition of strawman AntiBank May 2016 #99

It's not a false premise -- it's what Sanders said. Jeebus. Look it up. Buzz Clik May 2016 #101

no, it's a strawman argument because it is laden with false logical fallicies AntiBank May 2016 #103

Hey -- I just noticed. Your tenth post at DU was in response to me! Buzz Clik May 2016 #104

thanks for being my tenth AntiBank May 2016 #108

Question: How are "women, African Americans and Hispanic people" emotion? apnu May 2016 #115

What you are essentially saying: Fuck the elections drop out now losers Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #9

What the OP is essentially saying ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #10

"who once vehemently railed against the idea of SDs ignoring the will of the people" pat_k May 2016 #11

Here you go mythology May 2016 #15

Where's the vehement railing? pat_k May 2016 #39

He also said SwampG8r May 2016 #94

I ask again, where's the "vehement railing." pat_k May 2016 #119

The nomination process is rife with undemocratic aspects. morningfog May 2016 #17

All of that being said ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #25

I think Bernie's saying what he's always said. Jack Bone May 2016 #35

That doesn't answer the question. NanceGreggs May 2016 #38

I don't have a crystal ball.. Jack Bone May 2016 #41

In other words ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #43

Yes in states w/ +20% margins, Bernie considers that Jack Bone May 2016 #50

I'll try once more ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #53

I'll try.. Jack Bone May 2016 #60

What he's "always said" ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #61

If he wins the nomination...guess what? Jack Bone May 2016 #63

or the willingness to answer a straight forward question either. Sanders is a hypocrite period EOS uponit7771 May 2016 #48

I would recommend not voting for him then. chwaliszewski May 2016 #55

HRC has the PD and will remain the front runner with it. Iliyah May 2016 #12

The Superdelegates supporting Clinton are authoritarian neofascist oligarchs. baldguy May 2016 #13

Quote? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #14

but, it is okay if those super delegates vote for Hillary. you are alright with that. got it. Hiraeth May 2016 #18

Bernie wants to have it both ways. pnwmom May 2016 #19

your math is screwy. Hiraeth May 2016 #23

Hillary's situation could change a lot between now and the convention. JDPriestly May 2016 #29

And so could his. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #30

He is not under an FBI investigation and hasn't taken a lot of money from people. JDPriestly May 2016 #37

How do you know? pnwmom May 2016 #40

Do you have any reason at all to think he is? JDPriestly May 2016 #42

Cali posted this. pnwmom May 2016 #46

So do you support the Super-Duper Delegat system or not? It was designed to rhett o rick May 2016 #20

Hand him the nomination "based on the polls"? oasis May 2016 #21

Actually they denote trends, and it is denoting that she is losing despite all of the claims... northernsouthern May 2016 #34

The poll which counts now is over three million ahead in votes, a poll you can count on. Thinkingabout May 2016 #128

WRONG. northernsouthern May 2016 #162

Hillary has the most votes, no games, no lies, BTW, it was three million more than Sanders. Thinkingabout May 2016 #169

You do know that is not how a poll works right? northernsouthern May 2016 #170

Polling places, maybe you don't know what a polling place is, polling places where elections are Thinkingabout May 2016 #171

Yeah again google is your friend. northernsouthern May 2016 #174

As I say the most important poll has taken place in many states, pledged delegates have been Thinkingabout May 2016 #178

Lol, they are far more accurate than the primary. northernsouthern May 2016 #180

Ohh that is so cute... Silver_Witch May 2016 #26

Hillary supporters have always thought that the votes of super delegates were important pnwmom May 2016 #27

And therein lies the difficulty they have. Their flawed LuvLoogie May 2016 #36

Please let us who live in California vote like everybody else has. JDPriestly May 2016 #28

Sanders is a super delegate tirebiter May 2016 #31

#BernieLogic. ucrdem May 2016 #32

Wow you love to waive that minority flag don't you. northernsouthern May 2016 #33

exactly, progressive my ass... he's acting just like the people he demagogues regularly uponit7771 May 2016 #44

gender card, hispandering and race card all played at once? Betty Karlson May 2016 #49

No. There is a large gender gap, with women strongly supporting Hillary. pnwmom May 2016 #52

Sorry, but your talking points seem to be outdated by now. Betty Karlson May 2016 #54

If it "seems" that way to you, it's because you can't count. pnwmom May 2016 #56

And we are back to that mythical creature called math. Which is part of the Cult of Saint Hillary. Betty Karlson May 2016 #57

The critical difference: Hillary won't have to "flip" any of Bernie's 39 supers to cross the finish pnwmom May 2016 #58

Nobody has GOT supers. That's the point about Supers: they are uncommitted. Betty Karlson May 2016 #59

The supers have had months to switch to Bernie. Face it. They're not interested, no matter pnwmom May 2016 #62

Supers justify themselves by preventing disaster candidates. If they fail to do so this year, Betty Karlson May 2016 #64

LOLOLOL They wouldn't have endorsed her if they thought she was a "disaster candidate." pnwmom May 2016 #65

And now we are back to comparing Trump with Sanders. Just low. Betty Karlson May 2016 #100

None of them are saying that. Sparkly May 2016 #147

They will vote for the one with the most delegates Demsrule86 May 2016 #166

not in indiana quaker bill May 2016 #67

Nationally. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #68

Results of closed primaries mean 0 to me. basselope May 2016 #51

You don't get to make up the rules as you go along Demsrule86 May 2016 #76

Clinton did. basselope May 2016 #110

She did no such thing Demsrule86 May 2016 #114

Of course she did. basselope May 2016 #116

Which candidate has won more open primaries? JoePhilly May 2016 #90

Bernie. basselope May 2016 #111

open primaries DLCWIdem May 2016 #172

what he is actually saying is quaker bill May 2016 #66

No, he's actually saying "let everyone vote -- and then go by what the polls say." n/t pnwmom May 2016 #69

you mean kinda like signing up for Team Hill quaker bill May 2016 #70

Nope. He's waiting till she has a majority of pledged delegates and then he thinks pnwmom May 2016 #71

But what's voting got to do with it? quaker bill May 2016 #121

They were free then and they are free now -- to do what they want, which is to vote for Hillary pnwmom May 2016 #122

This is true, but there is no reason one cannot offer an argument quaker bill May 2016 #123

He can ask but he's deceiving his followers into thinking that he will succeed. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #124

I am not deceived. quaker bill May 2016 #125

Many young people are being deceived into sending donations to a campaign pnwmom May 2016 #126

Do you only support Hillary because she is winning? quaker bill May 2016 #129

... based on the polls he likes to believe, disregarding the majority of the polls. Buzz Clik May 2016 #77

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #89

Oy In_The_Wind May 2016 #137

Sanders is delusional Gothmog May 2016 #91

If that's the only thing you're getting out of what Bernie is saying than you're not listening EndElectoral May 2016 #102

He loves democracy, until he loses. CrowCityDem May 2016 #106

Well, that's Bernie! NurseJackie May 2016 #107

Perfectly consistent for a socialist admirer of Castro The Second Stone May 2016 #113

Are you trying to say Bernie is a communist? Or are you willfully ignoring the definition of jillan May 2016 #165

Please link or copy and paste your definition of "democratic socialism" The Second Stone May 2016 #168

Bernie Sanders has won 19 states. Aerows May 2016 #127

Too little too late redstateblues May 2016 #177

Clinton has won 22 + 3 others Guam N Marianas A Somoa DLCWIdem May 2016 #179

WRONG as always AgingAmerican May 2016 #130

Primary is not over yet PowerToThePeople May 2016 #149

Then I'll say goodbye now. pnwmom May 2016 #150

Democracy means not always getting what you want. Sparkly May 2016 #155

Uhm.....he kinda is. seekthetruth May 2016 #152

The caucus attenders do not represent all of Seattle. pnwmom May 2016 #154

Didn't Sanders take WA in a landslide? seekthetruth May 2016 #157

Yes, in a caucus landslide. And I've been fighting the non-inclusive, non-representative pnwmom May 2016 #159

I enjoy the hypocritical flip here Prism May 2016 #167

Weasel word "essentially" is the reveal on your OP. nt Bonobo May 2016 #173

No AgingAmerican May 2016 #181