2016 Postmortem

Lil Missy

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53. Yes, he lost. n/t

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Fri May 13, 2016, 12:03 PM

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If Hillary is such a weak, flawed, bad candidate then why did Sanders lose to her? [View all] UMTerp01 May 2016 OP

Celebrity. Nostalgia. Big Money. Connections. Orsino May 2016 #1

And yet Obama was able to overcome that in 2008 SFnomad May 2016 #4

Exactly!!!! UMTerp01 May 2016 #8

Obama wasn't running against a former SoS. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #12

He was running against a well known war hero. JaneyVee May 2016 #20

I'm talking about the Democratic primaries of 2008 vs 2016. Eric J in MN May 2016 #32

Hillary Clinton was a well known war hero? timmymoff May 2016 #40

She is still has to catch up to Sanders on the war issue, he is well ahead of her. Thinkingabout May 2016 #51

Yea, if only she had used her timmymoff May 2016 #56

Oh Oh, the hero status, where was Sanders, he is a hero, huh. Sanders voted for military action Thinkingabout May 2016 #60

I'm sorry did sanders vote for the iraq war? timmymoff May 2016 #62

yes, plus she wasn't captured like McCain...so she was a real hero. virtualobserver May 2016 #72

I would say at the beginning of the Primary vs the beginning of the General SFnomad May 2016 #46

Ahhh . . . he was running against a sitting New York senator and ex-First Lady brush May 2016 #59

And in 2016, she has that experience plus her SoS experience. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #75

True, but Obama was able to overcome it, why not Sanders? brush May 2016 #79

Personally, my knowledge of Hillary was very superficial then. Also of he Clinton years Baobab May 2016 #18

Charisma. Photogenic appearance. Big Money. Orsino May 2016 #11

Correct me if I'm wrong timmymoff May 2016 #14

So one speech by Obama bests your guys 25 years in the Senate??? Ok UMTerp01 May 2016 #28

not the only thing timmymoff May 2016 #30

So there are 12.6 million 1%ers in the Democratic Party? brooklynite May 2016 #48

People are easily fooled timmymoff May 2016 #49

Why yes it does Buzz cook May 2016 #82

Obama narrowly won in 2008 and this time Eric J in MN May 2016 #19

A lot more debates before the primaries, some support from the establishment AZ Progressive May 2016 #22

One very good point. Thanks. Voting miscounts and 'irregularities' are being noted, as well. ancianita May 2016 #27

Agree with his impressive gains UMTerp01 May 2016 #15

1. He's not lost yet berni_mccoy May 2016 #2

BS has lost ... some people just aren't willing to admit it n/t SFnomad May 2016 #5

Yes, he lost. n/t Lil Missy May 2016 #53

He lost because registered Democrats prefer Hillary, and they know he would lose in the GE. nt onehandle May 2016 #3

I'm a registered Democrat and am active in my Dem committee and I support Bernie Larkspur May 2016 #37

Hillary +3.5 million votes. nt onehandle May 2016 #55

Because she was propped up by the Party Machine and a fawning, lapdog media? frylock May 2016 #6

Because he's a weaker, more flawed, even worse candidate, apparently. CrowCityDem May 2016 #7

I agree.. it is a sign of mental illness timmymoff May 2016 #41

In 2008, HRC had the support of a former president. Eric J in MN May 2016 #9

Name recognition. phleshdef May 2016 #10

I think he's done pretty well, given his position. David__77 May 2016 #13

The DNC. Loudestlib May 2016 #16

As she starts her gradual downslide.......... TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #17

Oh oh oh puffy socks May 2016 #21

Election Fraud trudyco May 2016 #23

Hillary's SuperPAC, 100% name identification, overwhelming superdelegate lead before Sanders even Attorney in Texas May 2016 #24

If Hillary is such a foregone conclusion why is she having such a hard time clinching it? hobbit709 May 2016 #25

Thats a legitimate questions too UMTerp01 May 2016 #33

"complete socialist ideas" JonLeibowitz May 2016 #35

Why are you rolling your eyes? UMTerp01 May 2016 #64

Compared to 2008 Buzz cook May 2016 #84

Media Blackout of Bernie Meteor Man May 2016 #26

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #29

Because Cheetos and Mountian Dew aren't served at the polling places. nt LexVegas May 2016 #31

Because the Dem party believes in positive messages BootinUp May 2016 #34

If George W. Bush were such an idiot elljay May 2016 #36

Why did Trump get more votes than Jeb? Seeinghope May 2016 #38

Agreed that people can make bad choices, but Jeb? He was a horrible candidate. brush May 2016 #65

Worse than Trump? Seeinghope May 2016 #85

Well, yes. You're absolutely right about those two. brush May 2016 #87

Obama had more establishment backing in 2008 Csainvestor May 2016 #39

Obama ran vs. Hillary. Bernie is running against the corrupt system Csainvestor May 2016 #42

Oh, please matt819 May 2016 #43

+1 (NT) Eric J in MN May 2016 #88

Cuz, like, the man is keeping Bernie down, you know? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #44

Stockholm Syndrome nt firebrand80 May 2016 #45

Last I looked, the 2016 primary was not over so no one has won or lost jane123 May 2016 #47

Stop shouting Buzz cook May 2016 #86

a 12 year head start. n/t Motown_Johnny May 2016 #50

Not sure, but it involves some kind of conspiracy(s) Lil Missy May 2016 #52

EVERYone is picking on him. Not fair. Not his fault. NT seabeyond May 2016 #54

That's not exactly correct... glowing May 2016 #57

It just may be Sanders getting indicted for his Campaign fund problems, he was sent a letter Thinkingabout May 2016 #58

Because of hack partisanship and myopia. AZ Mike May 2016 #61

Easy: TCJ70 May 2016 #63

The primary race doesn't have the same parameters as the GE. Everybody knows it. hellofromreddit May 2016 #66

Because Hillary started the 100 yard dash at the 90 yard line. thesquanderer May 2016 #67

It's pretty impressive... TCJ70 May 2016 #73

>> Obama 2008 received 3x more media coverage than Sanders 2016... k8conant May 2016 #68

Much of his support can't vote in closed primaries. Xyzse May 2016 #69

Name id, big money and super pac support, closed primaries, establishment media, black churches icecreamfan May 2016 #70

First off, he hasn't lost yet. SheilaT May 2016 #71

Sanders has flaws, and his campaign management style has not helped him. procon May 2016 #74

Didn't you get the memo, it is rigged :-). redstatebluegirl May 2016 #76

Simple Shadowflash May 2016 #77

Undemocratic closed primaries. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #78

There have been many voting tampering issues like this one. CentralMass May 2016 #80

Because black voters and other voters of color overwhelmingly supported her YoungDemCA May 2016 #81

Bernie Sanders knew he needed more votes Eric J in MN May 2016 #89

I never thought of Hillary as weak, but aintitfunny May 2016 #83