2016 Postmortem

reformist2

(9,841 posts) Fri May 13, 2016, 07:35 PM May 2016

I have lost all faith in this country's ability to conduct elections fairly. [View all]

Last edited Sat May 14, 2016, 05:45 PM - Edit history (1)

This primary season has opened my eyes.

First Iowa. Then Nevada. Then Arizona. Then the debacle in New York. And now the decertification of Maryland's results. There are too many states with too many types of voting "irregularities" to not see the larger picture, which is that election fraud is rampant in this country. Flipped voting-machine totals. Missing votes. Uncounted provisional ballots. Not enough polling places. Thousands of voters dropped from the voting rolls. Thousands of eligible voters told they couldn't vote. The list of infractions and flagrant violations of election laws is out of control. What it all boils down to is this, when the list of problems reaches a certain tipping point, you start to question the validity of not just one state's results, but the supposed winner of this whole process.

Is Hillary really winning this primary season? I have no faith anymore that she really is.

Edit: What I'm seeing in Nevada today saddens me, but no longer surprises me.

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I have lost all faith in this country's ability to conduct elections fairly. [View all] reformist2 May 2016 OP

Oh there is more states that were stolen from Bernie Sanders then just those. bkkyosemite May 2016 #1

...and Sanders hasn't complained about any of them... brooklynite May 2016 #12

Count on the real insider, as in inside-the-beltway, to chime in silvershadow May 2016 #19

Please correct me... brooklynite May 2016 #22

Ummm Yeah...Spoken like a true insider. Katashi_itto May 2016 #39

FActs are annoying, aren;'t they? brooklynite May 2016 #44

Obviously not to you. I am sure your paid well enough for arranging them Katashi_itto May 2016 #45

And still you offer no rebuttal to the fact. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #61

You haven't provided any to the op's statement. Katashi_itto May 2016 #70

So Annoying In Fact That You Completely Ignore "WHO" Hillary Clinton Is When All you have to do is CorporatistNation May 2016 #68

Election Fraud is the third-rail of American politics. Chezboo May 2016 #67

add Maryland now Ferd Berfel May 2016 #47

Oh hell yes we need international observers to monitor our elections as Purveyor May 2016 #2

Yes. I'm mostly concerned with those last moments when they report the voting machine results. reformist2 May 2016 #46

Its all so frustrating...until Bernie beats her in California laserhaas May 2016 #3

Another CT excuse for a reason Sanders is not ahead, voter suppression by those not registered as Thinkingabout May 2016 #4

The people not registered as Democrats were the VICTIMS of suppression, not the CAUSE JonLeibowitz May 2016 #11

I don't understand how you cannot be concerned because the GE is just around the corner. jillan May 2016 #13

If she cheated, then she is a horrendously weak candidate CoffeeCat May 2016 #51

And in Az it was HRC who got shafted most likely.... apcalc May 2016 #17

I call bull. nt silvershadow May 2016 #20

Wow you are victim blaming? northernsouthern May 2016 #31

No, I don't blame the victim, the victim is the registered Democrats who had long lines Thinkingabout May 2016 #34

You know what victim blaming is right? northernsouthern May 2016 #69

This is a primary, do you know what a primary is? Thinkingabout May 2016 #71

well of course all the fraud is caused by hillary clinton do't ya know nt msongs May 2016 #5

So have I, elleng May 2016 #6

Really. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #27

Far from perfect, definitely needs reforms. I believe Jimmy Carter has good BootinUp May 2016 #7

I don't understand why Jimmy Carter isn't monitoring things. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #8

Because we don't meet international standards for elections. It's an unfunny joke. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #29

Just got done watching Redacted. Voters in CA are being purged too. jillan May 2016 #9

Yep trudyco May 2016 #16

here ya go TheDormouse May 2016 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #25

Cali people can vote now! They should go to their local elections office dana_b May 2016 #73

The Democrats have been more corrupt than the Republicans this primary AgingAmerican May 2016 #10

Yes, things have surely changed, haven't they? elleng May 2016 #32

We do need international observers, and a standardized system of verified counting. highprincipleswork May 2016 #14

Probably the most important thing we could do is to stop the "as-fast-as-possible" vote reporting. reformist2 May 2016 #49

This primary season? apcalc May 2016 #15

are you comparing the 2000 GE to the 2016 Democratic Primary? reddread May 2016 #37

Really? Demsrule86 May 2016 #18

The 182,000,000 that Clinton has spent fighting his liberal message is just chump change .99center May 2016 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #26

K & R dreamnightwind May 2016 #21

The convention in Nevada today is shaping up to be another prime example of illusory Democracy. reformist2 May 2016 #59

Damn, sorry to hear that - eom dreamnightwind May 2016 #63

"In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it" TheDormouse May 2016 #66

Agree Time for change May 2016 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #28

"I doubt very much she could beat Bernie in a fair election. " SusanCalvin May 2016 #30

Has been going on since Andy Stephenson eridani May 2016 #33

There are problems in every election and in practically every precinct. Where have you been? randome May 2016 #35

Our Myriad Voting Procedures Are Ripe For Corruption colsohlibgal May 2016 #36

Hillary is winning by large margins. Just a fact. JoePhilly May 2016 #38

More like fiction. Just because numbers appear on CNN and are made "official" doesn't make them true reformist2 May 2016 #40

Right ... 3 million people don't exist. JoePhilly May 2016 #41

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't. I haven't seen any real-world evidence of such support. reformist2 May 2016 #42

Ok. JoePhilly May 2016 #43

BINGO! summerschild May 2016 #56

It's not that big a leap for these guys to go from fake twitter followers, to fake voters. reformist2 May 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #54

+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #55

At this point, the laughably stupid and stubborn contention that because Hillary is not holding Number23 May 2016 #62

3 million people, blah blah blah Chezboo May 2016 #65

"Winning" n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #64

K&R- It's conspiracy theory in the Dem primary, but when the GOP wins somehow it's not here. EndElectoral May 2016 #48

I knew we had to worry about Republicans stealing elections, but now Arugula Latte May 2016 #50

If these things happened in other countries, we would have bombed them long time ago Nyan May 2016 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #53

Borrrowed from Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens dissent after Bush v Gore, 2000 bvar22 May 2016 #57

Before the first vote was cast in Iowa, Hillary had a 500 super delegate lead. This is all B Calm May 2016 #58

Exactly! And Illinois, and we still don't know what disaster California has in store for us WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #72