2016 Postmortem

Buzz cook

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94. I'm paying for lots of things that I don't use.

Sat May 14, 2016, 12:22 PM

May 2016

From national parks too far away to visit to parts judicial system. The same is true for you.

Why pay for the social safety net, I don't use it.

Why pay for rural electrification, I don't use it.

But we do benefit from those things. Just as we benefit from supplying a mechanism for the parties to pick nominees.

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DNC Chair Wants to Exclude Independents From Democratic Primaries [View all] Gregorian May 2016 OP

West Virginia showed why that's a good idea Renew Deal May 2016 #1

Great CBS poll. Optimism May 2016 #18

What percentage of eligable voters voted in the WA caucus? riversedge May 2016 #77

5.8% Andy823 May 2016 #108

Thanks. And I agree with all you said. (such low counts is not the will of the Wash state people) riversedge May 2016 #109

What did you expect? WV is full of Trump supporters and DINO's. Renew Deal May 2016 #86

Back in 2008 Hillary beat the crap out of the black guy in WV, that should tell doc03 May 2016 #89

The SHILLS For The Oligarchy Are Just There For The MONEY! CorporatistNation May 2016 #110

Primaries should be closed, but party declaration should be right up to the casting of a vote. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #19

That would still allow the GOP to screw with our primaries Demsrule86 May 2016 #71

OK, back to reality. You're not going to get an en masse group of people to go through that motion. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #81

I'm OK with that, but it's a state issue. Renew Deal May 2016 #87

Wow, a response withing one minute. You win the prize today. Your refresh button finger must rhett o rick May 2016 #35

A one line OP doesn't take long to read Renew Deal May 2016 #88

Did the admins give you guys a special app to get the first response slot? nm rhett o rick May 2016 #92

but you must continually hit the refresh button to get a response within one minute. rhett o rick May 2016 #111

Except that the majority of those were DEMOCRATS nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #40

He was going for the first post and that means a short, unsubstantial post. rhett o rick May 2016 #49

I know but this one is so easy to bat down nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #51

I think it so strange that they fight so hard to get the first response then blow it with some rhett o rick May 2016 #53

A graduate student could do a thesis on this, I swear nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #55

Absolutely. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #59

Maybe they get a bonus for being first? TimPlo May 2016 #83

CBS says 34% were independents. 10% identified as republicans. Renew Deal May 2016 #90

Yup Secretary of State site nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #91

That person was hollering that it was 15% of Hillary voters that said they'd support Trump just a Number23 May 2016 #107

That's one more reason why Bernie needs to run as an independent Time for change May 2016 #85

I agree with her. n/t livetohike May 2016 #2

Really, was there ever a doubt? Don't you always agree with her and Clinton? rhett o rick May 2016 #39

Usually. I don't like some of the things DWS has done. The primary livetohike May 2016 #50

I registered as a Democrat 50 years ago. I did strayed during the Vietnam War. I couldn't support rhett o rick May 2016 #58

Charisma.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #3

Makes sense. Republicans as well. nt Bleacher Creature May 2016 #4

I agree with her completely KingFlorez May 2016 #5

Have you ever not agreed with her? or Clinton? It's easy to always agree with rhett o rick May 2016 #43

"authoritarian leader" KingFlorez May 2016 #47

No shit. hack89 May 2016 #6

This, and we won't have those Republicans... scscholar May 2016 #12

The excuse of the day. rhett o rick May 2016 #44

So you support Republicans interfering with Democratic primaries? LonePirate May 2016 #64

So you support the wealthy 1% at the expense of the 50,000,000 living in poverty? rhett o rick May 2016 #78

What does that have to do with asking what's the difference between excluding Indies and Repubs? LonePirate May 2016 #82

Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wendylaroux May 2016 #7

The list of people Hillary & DWS do not want to vote in this jwirr May 2016 #8

you are all perfectly free to vote for anyone you want in the general election nt msongs May 2016 #13

Fantasy Renew Deal May 2016 #15

DWS lurves her some Republicans! BuelahWitch May 2016 #25

If she "lurves her some Republican" she'd be for Open Primaries lunamagica May 2016 #34

No, because they wouldn't vote for her chosen candidate BuelahWitch May 2016 #79

Should Canadians or Buzz cook May 2016 #9

Why not Glamrock May 2016 #27

Really? Buzz cook May 2016 #96

They're not paying for them. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #75

I'm paying for lots of things that I don't use. Buzz cook May 2016 #94

How, specifically, does everyone benefit from paying for private elections? Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #95

How do you not? nt Buzz cook May 2016 #97

As expected... Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #98

My names not Felicia Buzz cook May 2016 #99

Hopefully. onehandle May 2016 #10

Facts too much for you? -none May 2016 #23

Their minds are made up. They agree with everything Hillary. It's Authoritarian Adulation. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #45

That has been obvious for some time. -none May 2016 #48

so if I wait 74 years to suddenly become a democrat because that's where the $$ is I have to run msongs May 2016 #11

Yeah. It's clear if a lot of people don't like this, time to move to new party. Joob May 2016 #14

That's a good idea Renew Deal May 2016 #16

I rarely give a simple +1 but... randome May 2016 #21

There will only be one candidate! yallerdawg May 2016 #33

She is on the record as favoring limiting access of grassroots Democrats from the process Attorney in Texas May 2016 #17

Link? Renew Deal May 2016 #20

�DNC chair says superdelegates ensure elites don�t have to run 'against grassroots activists'� Attorney in Texas May 2016 #100

Independents are not grassroots Democrats. LiberalFighter May 2016 #28

Many of the independents used to be until the Democratic party moved too far to the Right. -none May 2016 #52

Independents aren't Real American's bahrbearian May 2016 #22

No, independents aren't Democrats lunamagica May 2016 #31

Just curious but why should all taxpayers katsy May 2016 #24

Nothing prevents Independents or Third Parties LiberalFighter May 2016 #32

Flippant answer. katsy May 2016 #61

Seems someone else is being flippant about their response. LiberalFighter May 2016 #84

No, nothing prevents that. Nothing prevents you having to pay for your primary either. Autumn May 2016 #76

Two things should come from this: Maedhros May 2016 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Maedhros May 2016 #26

Good! lunamagica May 2016 #29

Good. OhZone May 2016 #30

This is a very illustrative incident. Maedhros May 2016 #36

How is she going to do that? longship May 2016 #37

She said she was speaking personally and not for the DNC. (NT) Eric J in MN May 2016 #54

My question stands, no matter who she speaks for. longship May 2016 #56

Hopefully, she was just giving her opinion and Eric J in MN May 2016 #57

MI CANNOT have a closed primary. longship May 2016 #62

If the majority of independents were supporting Clinton Il_Coniglietto May 2016 #38

That's a great idea for both parties.... Txbluedog May 2016 #42

Great idea if you want who you can vote for chosen by the party leaders... -none May 2016 #60

The system is rigged...keeping up the charade of choice is almost over. Lodestar May 2016 #46

good obamanut2012 May 2016 #63

DEMOCRATIC nominee selected by DEMOCRATS . . . simple DrDan May 2016 #65

Who gets to vote in the Green Party nomination process? brooklynite May 2016 #66

Oh, the irony. "Democratic" Party indeed. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #67

Doesn't everyone have the right to vote for a primary candidate? TheProgressive May 2016 #68

How can the party leaders get the person they want, if everyone gets a vote? -none May 2016 #69

Nonsense Demsrule86 May 2016 #72

I agree Demsrule86 May 2016 #70

It is Democratic for Democrats be able to pick thier candidate Sheepshank May 2016 #73

It's the only way she can get her venal, dishonest, incompetent candidate nominated. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #74

if Hillary was winning independents then she would want them Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #80

fine. then don't ever expect a THING from us dana_b May 2016 #93

Good idea, this is DNC Primary, it is not Independent Primary, I promise not to vote Thinkingabout May 2016 #101

I thought she said it was a big tent party. rateyes May 2016 #102

She should be excluded from the Democratic Party milestogo May 2016 #103

Winning is everything felix_numinous May 2016 #104

Sounds right to me. What's the problem. Let them join or form a party of their own. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #105

Excellent incentive for a 3rd party! Barack_America May 2016 #106