2016 Postmortem

Nye Bevan

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12. I am.

Mon May 16, 2016, 08:29 AM

May 2016

I think taxes are at about the right level, I don't see most corporations as the enemy, I don't think most of Wall Street is evil, and I don't support abolishing the cap on Social Security contributions. I also strongly support NAFTA and free trade. And I think a federal minimum wage of $15 is too high.

While I would love a single-payer healthcare system I think that with the ACA, President Obama got the absolute best result he could get given the Congress at the time, and I see the ACA as a huge step in the right direction. Prohibiting discrimination based upon pre-existing conditions is IMO the single best achievement of the Obama presidency and provides a stark contrast with the cruelty of the Republicans.

I'm also in the tiny minority of DUers who think that Bill Clinton was a very good president.

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Is anyone here in favor of third way/new democrats? [View all] SpareribSP May 2016 OP

It is odd. northernsouthern May 2016 #1

There is something that's not just a river on Egypt. dchill May 2016 #2

You can learn QUITE a bit from the links in Baobab May 2016 #59

Obviously, there are. Some DUers even use pro blue dog or pro Third Way avatars. merrily May 2016 #3

how can you tell a "pro third way" avatar" ? Baobab May 2016 #73

Same way that you know that my avatar is pro-Bernie. merrily May 2016 #74

They have infiltrated this site TrueDemVA May 2016 #4

Skinner Depaysement May 2016 #5

Well, actually he did Art_from_Ark May 2016 #81

Do you mean as they really are, or as they are depicted here? baldguy May 2016 #6

As they really are. SpareribSP May 2016 #15

Google is your friend... pangaia May 2016 #29

Even google tailors your search results. SpareribSP May 2016 #30

Type in Democratic Leadership Council Armstead May 2016 #34

I have. SpareribSP May 2016 #41

Your best bet then is to study up on the political history of the party. silvershadow May 2016 #80

I've actually met with them brooklynite May 2016 #7

Absolutely SpareribSP May 2016 #16

They have used money to gain undue influence Armstead May 2016 #37

Of course you have jack_krass May 2016 #40

I support the most progressive candidate who can actually get elected... brooklynite May 2016 #44

Is there a point though SpareribSP May 2016 #45

Absent a couple of dealbreaker issues (Syrian refugees, PP/reproductive rights), no... brooklynite May 2016 #46

That's pretty black and white SpareribSP May 2016 #47

That doesn't make her progressive Beowulf May 2016 #51

Here's a pretty good summary NorthCarolina May 2016 #69

Do you think they would agree with the effects of their policies described in my .sig? Baobab May 2016 #62

just curious...is this silvershadow May 2016 #82

Did you see my post yet? Is that you? Just curious... nt silvershadow May 2016 #84

No (nt) bigwillq May 2016 #8

Of course. LWolf May 2016 #9

On some issues. JaneyVee May 2016 #10

For, me, depends on the individual and the issue. YouDig May 2016 #11

I am. Nye Bevan May 2016 #12

Thanks! SpareribSP May 2016 #14

A balaned budget in the federal government is not as important as in a family, for example. pangaia May 2016 #33

Obviously. SpareribSP May 2016 #36

"We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. NorthCarolina May 2016 #18

I'm in favor of them NorthCarolina May 2016 #13

^pretty much this ^ + 1000 Betty Karlson May 2016 #17

Why would I do that when the candidate I support will almost certainly win the nomination? Nye Bevan May 2016 #48

Crickets EndElectoral May 2016 #19

here's a good article on how the Clintons are the only reason austerian piffle MisterP May 2016 #20

Mark Udall was a damn good Senator. joshcryer May 2016 #21

I think people would have a hard time arguing against SpareribSP May 2016 #22

As long as we lose midterms the pragmatic choice is most likely to win. joshcryer May 2016 #23

But SpareribSP May 2016 #24

No, we lost because of GOTV failure. joshcryer May 2016 #25

Aren't there many causes of GOTV failure? SpareribSP May 2016 #28

The main cause is not being inspired by the candidate. joshcryer May 2016 #31

Definitely a hard situation. SpareribSP May 2016 #32

Let me clarify something about Mark Udall, though. joshcryer May 2016 #75

At first, the Hillary fans tried to tell us that the Third Way does not even exist. djean111 May 2016 #26

Here you go: Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #27

I am a moderate. auntpurl May 2016 #35

That's totally understandable to me. SpareribSP May 2016 #39

Thanks for your reply. auntpurl May 2016 #42

Makes sense to me SpareribSP May 2016 #43

This board is riddled with them whatchamacallit May 2016 #38

just look for the Hillary avatars ibegurpard May 2016 #49

A freaking boatload. mmonk May 2016 #50

What I'm NOT in favor of apcalc May 2016 #52

If Hillary loses it will be on Hillary. Not Bernie, Not Nader, Not Santa Claus. BillZBubb May 2016 #56

Ask Al Gore. apcalc May 2016 #65

Al Gore was honest. He said it was on him, no one else. BillZBubb May 2016 #68

Bull. And the votes Nader got in Florida would have gone to Bush... apcalc May 2016 #71

Got a link where Gore blamed Nader? BillZBubb May 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #76

A 'third way'? Hmmm... yallerdawg May 2016 #53

Well said. auntpurl May 2016 #61

They won for sure SpareribSP May 2016 #64

It's exactly what our Democratic presidents keep telling us! yallerdawg May 2016 #67

Lots of them. The Third Way won the war for the soul of the party. BillZBubb May 2016 #54

I'm in favor of new democrats, and by that I mean The Second Stone May 2016 #55

Bullshit. The Third Way is a real organization, with real goals. BillZBubb May 2016 #57

Apparently they are centrists. The Second Stone May 2016 #60

They are centrists only with respect to how far right the republicans have moved. BillZBubb May 2016 #63

Of course it's all in perspective. yallerdawg May 2016 #66

Not me! They're part of the problem. n/t arcane1 May 2016 #58

Nope. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #70

List the Third Way Senators up for reelection this fall. LuvLoogie May 2016 #77

Do you mean new Democrats like Bernie Sanders? JohnnyRingo May 2016 #78

Maybe bernie will start a Progressive Party underthematrix May 2016 #79

They have there purpose UnFettered May 2016 #83