2016 Postmortem

ThePhilosopher04

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45. Ron Paul didn't fill stadiums like Bernie

Mon May 16, 2016, 11:04 AM

May 2016

he had a rally at my hometown university and drew about 400 to an 8,000 seat arena. He may have had good crowds here and there but nowhere near the consistency and not as big.

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It's just so g-damned strange that accusations of election fraud [View all] boston bean May 2016 OP

That doesn't eliminate the possibility that fraud has occurred. Maybe it was really effective. hellofromreddit May 2016 #1

It does when every time Sanders lost, accusation be had, it is voters that would have voted Clinton seabeyond May 2016 #22

That's an entirely different (and better) argument than OP's. hellofromreddit May 2016 #25

My argument would be that the stakes are huge because of secret trade deals Baobab May 2016 #95

It follows the same pattern each time AgingAmerican May 2016 #55

Exactly that's the OP's answer...it is happening to register democrats who are Bernie bkkyosemite May 2016 #64

voter problems everywhere DLCWIdem May 2016 #84

Every time Sanders loses he sues and his fans act stupid. riversedge May 2016 #2

Right puffy socks May 2016 #30

Many long time dems had their affiliations flipped or changed. Stop with the they didn't bkkyosemite May 2016 #63

She won the Nevada caucaus on election day DLCWIdem May 2016 #76

+1000 stonecutter357 May 2016 #60

It's called stage 4... of 5. n/t lamp_shade May 2016 #3

Bernie is actually undefeated in 2016 Renew Deal May 2016 #4

Do you want a meaningful discussion on this issue or not? Baobab May 2016 #49

okay meaningful discussion DLCWIdem May 2016 #94

true MariaThinks May 2016 #82

Maybe cuz the whole "g-damned" establishment supports HRC jack_krass May 2016 #5

and changes the rules to suit their own selfish preferences. Betty Karlson May 2016 #10

Where is the Sanders campaign opinion on this? sufrommich May 2016 #11

Nina Turner made it VERY clear. Betty Karlson May 2016 #18

What did she make clear? She was literally at the sufrommich May 2016 #19

Democrats supporting Democrats. What a concept. Voters too. Sanders lost. Doesn't mean he lost seabeyond May 2016 #23

DINOs supporting DINOs jack_krass May 2016 #50

Democrats. You do not get to define. seabeyond May 2016 #51

Neither do you. hobbit709 May 2016 #97

Your post doesn't make sense. seabeyond May 2016 #100

Your own words "Democrats. You do not get to define." hobbit709 May 2016 #101

And still ???? seabeyond May 2016 #102

That everyone with experience, knowledge, and established history in the party Amimnoch May 2016 #71

Oh make no mistake. The fact that the entrenched "powers that be" jack_krass May 2016 #74

If you're correct, then the case for Bernie Sanders is even weaker. Amimnoch May 2016 #85

It would give him a bully pulpit to expose the problem, and start pushing solutions jack_krass May 2016 #93

It says 'rigged.' immoderate May 2016 #78

Not a surprise. Losses are ties....election fraud....Berniemath....Bernies Bizarro World. nt LexVegas May 2016 #6

pretty obvious really GreatGazoo May 2016 #7

How many of those fans in the stands are WhiteTara May 2016 #12

Even if it were 1 in 10 the gap is obvious SwampG8r May 2016 #17

In rallies or votes? WhiteTara May 2016 #21

Not really. Even the biggest rallies cosists of a very small sample of a state's population lunamagica May 2016 #41

And the smallest. dchill May 2016 #62

Ron Paul used to fill stadiums. Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #24

So did mitt Romney lunamagica May 2016 #35

Ron Paul didn't fill stadiums like Bernie ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #45

Several posters have said that their children attended rallies, but didn't bother to vote. lunamagica May 2016 #38

Has the Sanders campaign filed formal charges with sufrommich May 2016 #8

Probably puffy socks May 2016 #34

Not true. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #9

Yes, so strange when the STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS DECERTIFIES DUE TO 'IRREGULARITIES'! ViseGrip May 2016 #13

When will the Sanders campaign be filing charges of election sufrommich May 2016 #16

What the heck is tampering with the FEC? Do you mean bribing the commissioners? merrily May 2016 #31

tampering with the FEC? frylock May 2016 #61

Facts. 6 or 8 of the 64 verified and allowed to seat. 8 Clinton were not verified and not allowed seabeyond May 2016 #28

Nope puffy socks May 2016 #37

Nice try but you're wasting your time. vintx May 2016 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author DLCWIdem May 2016 #86

Election Irregularities. Decertify. your talking about Baltimore did you bother to read article DLCWIdem May 2016 #87

Conspiracy! (Yep ... We're just that good! Hillary can do ANYTHING!) :-P NurseJackie May 2016 #14

I think you answered your own question. NWCorona May 2016 #15

Not strange at all. The party has never been united against one primary candidate before. merrily May 2016 #20

Sanders is not a Democrat. Attacks and insults Democrats. You all pissed cause Democrats do not seabeyond May 2016 #29

Not surprised at all. Beowulf May 2016 #33

Democrats, not establishment. That tired insult. Do not support Sanders,... You establishment!!! BS seabeyond May 2016 #40

I chose establishment for a reason Beowulf May 2016 #72

Many of those supporting Sanders are not Democrats and never have been, or will be, too. seabeyond May 2016 #73

Sanders is as much establishment as Clinton or more so. Beowulf May 2016 #79

In a body of govt that has power over others. Been in congress for working on 3 decades. seabeyond May 2016 #88

funny I thought it was independents that supported B.S. DLCWIdem May 2016 #89

I personally believe it is mostly Libertarians, baggers and anarchists. Not Repugs. seabeyond May 2016 #90

Ah, that"not a Democrat thing" is too played out and has been responded to too often merrily May 2016 #36

Fact is fact. Sanders accuses, fabricates, attacks and insults Democrats, while demanding the vote. seabeyond May 2016 #42

Apparently, you have no clue what "fact" means. Neither Sanders nor I demanded you vote for him. merrily May 2016 #46

+1000 stonecutter357 May 2016 #67

I'm confused. Did he not register as a Democrat to participate in this election? frylock May 2016 #65

He actually didn't register as a democrat because of the way glowing May 2016 #92

I'm thinking historically low voter turnout. frylock May 2016 #104

Yes you are. n/t JTFrog May 2016 #98

So he didn't register as a Democrat then? frylock May 2016 #103

read Baltimore article. It effects mayoral race DLCWIdem May 2016 #91

Hardly. You guys are the only ones with motive, opportunity... and that basic disposition. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #26

LOL ... BootinUp May 2016 #32

Leave him alone he's got a men's group to run. n/t JTFrog May 2016 #99

The Fraud In Nevada Was Recorded For All To See cantbeserious May 2016 #27

Why do Hillary Clinton suporters INdemo May 2016 #39

In particular, in Mass, Sanders supporters was right where Bill Clinton was standing, making video, Thinkingabout May 2016 #66

Election fraud perpetrated by one side and not the other would be my guess. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #43

+1 How come only the victim is complaining about theft? merrily May 2016 #48

manufactured victimhood at every turn Sheepshank May 2016 #68

"at every turn" or "Almost every time." Make up your mind. It either happens or it doesn't. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #69

ALMOST every time? At least that much honesty crept itn. merrily May 2016 #70

Generally that's how cheating goes AgingAmerican May 2016 #44

The sad part of this LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #47

We've always been concerned about election fraud. Bush-Gore-2000, Kerry-Bush 2004. Why stop now? EndElectoral May 2016 #52

sour grapes for starters.... beachbum bob May 2016 #53

That the Democratic establishment is backing Hillary kiva May 2016 #54

Yes, isn't it? That sore loser in 2000 made similar accusations RufusTFirefly May 2016 #56

Nothing to see here, folks. frylock May 2016 #57

seems predictable...right? Sheepshank May 2016 #58

Four individual users, twenty-five searches, eleven states, information downloaded. NCTraveler May 2016 #75

They simply can't fathom that he is not the chosen one by Democrats. apcalc May 2016 #77

so true. when he wins, there is no fraud. when he loses, it's all fraud. MariaThinks May 2016 #80

We should always be concerned about election fraud! B Calm May 2016 #81

She has manipulated the system... Yurovsky May 2016 #83

the side pulling the chicanery never complains. hobbit709 May 2016 #96