2016 Postmortem

BillZBubb

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54. Lots of them. The Third Way won the war for the soul of the party.

Mon May 16, 2016, 05:10 PM

May 2016

Those that support pro-corporate economic and regulatory policies, think "free trade" deals are a good thing overall, don't particularly support unions, favor austerity to bring down the deficit, are hawkish on foreign policy will be Third Way "New Democrats".

Third Wayers' are somewhat liberal on social issues, but tend to see solutions to them as requiring incremental rather than rapid (or radical) change. They view that as the optimal approach to long term success.

If they support Hillary, they are de facto Third Way supporters. Of course not every Hillary supporter agrees with all Third Way positions. They pick and choose what fits their view. But she's the one who would be president, so they back the whole package through her.

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Is anyone here in favor of third way/new democrats? [View all] SpareribSP May 2016 OP

It is odd. northernsouthern May 2016 #1

There is something that's not just a river on Egypt. dchill May 2016 #2

You can learn QUITE a bit from the links in Baobab May 2016 #59

Obviously, there are. Some DUers even use pro blue dog or pro Third Way avatars. merrily May 2016 #3

how can you tell a "pro third way" avatar" ? Baobab May 2016 #73

Same way that you know that my avatar is pro-Bernie. merrily May 2016 #74

They have infiltrated this site TrueDemVA May 2016 #4

Skinner Depaysement May 2016 #5

Well, actually he did Art_from_Ark May 2016 #81

Do you mean as they really are, or as they are depicted here? baldguy May 2016 #6

As they really are. SpareribSP May 2016 #15

Google is your friend... pangaia May 2016 #29

Even google tailors your search results. SpareribSP May 2016 #30

Type in Democratic Leadership Council Armstead May 2016 #34

I have. SpareribSP May 2016 #41

Your best bet then is to study up on the political history of the party. silvershadow May 2016 #80

I've actually met with them brooklynite May 2016 #7

Absolutely SpareribSP May 2016 #16

They have used money to gain undue influence Armstead May 2016 #37

Of course you have jack_krass May 2016 #40

I support the most progressive candidate who can actually get elected... brooklynite May 2016 #44

Is there a point though SpareribSP May 2016 #45

Absent a couple of dealbreaker issues (Syrian refugees, PP/reproductive rights), no... brooklynite May 2016 #46

That's pretty black and white SpareribSP May 2016 #47

That doesn't make her progressive Beowulf May 2016 #51

Here's a pretty good summary NorthCarolina May 2016 #69

Do you think they would agree with the effects of their policies described in my .sig? Baobab May 2016 #62

just curious...is this silvershadow May 2016 #82

Did you see my post yet? Is that you? Just curious... nt silvershadow May 2016 #84

No (nt) bigwillq May 2016 #8

Of course. LWolf May 2016 #9

On some issues. JaneyVee May 2016 #10

For, me, depends on the individual and the issue. YouDig May 2016 #11

I am. Nye Bevan May 2016 #12

Thanks! SpareribSP May 2016 #14

A balaned budget in the federal government is not as important as in a family, for example. pangaia May 2016 #33

Obviously. SpareribSP May 2016 #36

"We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. NorthCarolina May 2016 #18

I'm in favor of them NorthCarolina May 2016 #13

^pretty much this ^ + 1000 Betty Karlson May 2016 #17

Why would I do that when the candidate I support will almost certainly win the nomination? Nye Bevan May 2016 #48

Crickets EndElectoral May 2016 #19

here's a good article on how the Clintons are the only reason austerian piffle MisterP May 2016 #20

Mark Udall was a damn good Senator. joshcryer May 2016 #21

I think people would have a hard time arguing against SpareribSP May 2016 #22

As long as we lose midterms the pragmatic choice is most likely to win. joshcryer May 2016 #23

But SpareribSP May 2016 #24

No, we lost because of GOTV failure. joshcryer May 2016 #25

Aren't there many causes of GOTV failure? SpareribSP May 2016 #28

The main cause is not being inspired by the candidate. joshcryer May 2016 #31

Definitely a hard situation. SpareribSP May 2016 #32

Let me clarify something about Mark Udall, though. joshcryer May 2016 #75

At first, the Hillary fans tried to tell us that the Third Way does not even exist. djean111 May 2016 #26

Here you go: Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #27

I am a moderate. auntpurl May 2016 #35

That's totally understandable to me. SpareribSP May 2016 #39

Thanks for your reply. auntpurl May 2016 #42

Makes sense to me SpareribSP May 2016 #43

This board is riddled with them whatchamacallit May 2016 #38

just look for the Hillary avatars ibegurpard May 2016 #49

A freaking boatload. mmonk May 2016 #50

What I'm NOT in favor of apcalc May 2016 #52

If Hillary loses it will be on Hillary. Not Bernie, Not Nader, Not Santa Claus. BillZBubb May 2016 #56

Ask Al Gore. apcalc May 2016 #65

Al Gore was honest. He said it was on him, no one else. BillZBubb May 2016 #68

Bull. And the votes Nader got in Florida would have gone to Bush... apcalc May 2016 #71

Got a link where Gore blamed Nader? BillZBubb May 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #76

A 'third way'? Hmmm... yallerdawg May 2016 #53

Well said. auntpurl May 2016 #61

They won for sure SpareribSP May 2016 #64

It's exactly what our Democratic presidents keep telling us! yallerdawg May 2016 #67

Lots of them. The Third Way won the war for the soul of the party. BillZBubb May 2016 #54

I'm in favor of new democrats, and by that I mean The Second Stone May 2016 #55

Bullshit. The Third Way is a real organization, with real goals. BillZBubb May 2016 #57

Apparently they are centrists. The Second Stone May 2016 #60

They are centrists only with respect to how far right the republicans have moved. BillZBubb May 2016 #63

Of course it's all in perspective. yallerdawg May 2016 #66

Not me! They're part of the problem. n/t arcane1 May 2016 #58

Nope. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #70

List the Third Way Senators up for reelection this fall. LuvLoogie May 2016 #77

Do you mean new Democrats like Bernie Sanders? JohnnyRingo May 2016 #78

Maybe bernie will start a Progressive Party underthematrix May 2016 #79

They have there purpose UnFettered May 2016 #83