2016 Postmortem

djean111

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29. Whether Bernie bows out gracefully, or not - all the new voters will not pivot to Hillary.

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:47 PM

May 2016

Before Bernie - actually, Bernie's platform, his ideas, his plans - they were not going to bother with politics at all. They see Hillary as Same Old Stuff, which does not bode well for them. All the scorn and sarcasm in the world can't change that.

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The DNC has the legal right to kick Bernie out of the party. [View all] Exilednight May 2016 OP

one word: BACKLASH desmiller May 2016 #1

I have the feeling it would be epic and damaging. nt nc4bo May 2016 #2

my thoughts exactly. desmiller May 2016 #6

It would be far worse than putting up with us FDR/Union Labor types that were the party silvershadow May 2016 #53

Why don't they just do it! Just do it! nc4bo May 2016 #60

They can't, and they know it. They would destroy the party. nt silvershadow May 2016 #72

Yes bkkyosemite May 2016 #76

For someone that parchuted in at the last minute? scscholar May 2016 #19

This guy wants us to think he gets it. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #78

"Our money"? How much did you donate to Bernie? Peace Patriot May 2016 #83

Yep, they dare not. Jester Messiah May 2016 #54

I don't believe he "joined" the party. DURHAM D May 2016 #3

You really should. He'd beat Hillary in a General Election when Indies can vote. floriduck May 2016 #7

Are you talking about 2020 now? nt DURHAM D May 2016 #11

Nope. floriduck May 2016 #13

Indies vote? they won't even register then turn out nt msongs May 2016 #17

What? glitterbag May 2016 #40

Hey everyone: please welcome my good friend Glitterbag to DU!!!! marble falls May 2016 #88

Except in open primaries, Clinton has beaten Sanders more times than he has her mythology May 2016 #68

BOOM! Maru Kitteh May 2016 #14

You mean Truth fail? Jude the Obscure May 2016 #32

No he didn't file as an idependent for 2018 passiveporcupine May 2016 #51

Geez, they lie just like their candidate! Peace Patriot May 2016 #87

I can tell you why not - they don't have enough doormen to jwirr May 2016 #4

Kicking him out would solve all their convention worries. It would "purify" the party for Hillary. reformist2 May 2016 #9

Purify with less than probably 20% of the total vote? Jude the Obscure May 2016 #34

Maybe - but we would all still be standing outside the jwirr May 2016 #35

Because it would force him to run as an Indie. And either Bernie or a Trump would win. floriduck May 2016 #5

Because... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #8

Actually I think he could honestly be considered the most powerful. He has quite a large number of Seeinghope May 2016 #25

Backlash Duckhunter935 May 2016 #10

She's stronger than he is. Bummer for him, eh? Maru Kitteh May 2016 #16

Apparently stronger for the Primary notadmblnd May 2016 #44

Not in the match ups Duckhunter935 May 2016 #63

This sounds just like something a little kid would say. puffy socks May 2016 #12

they're are all sorts of Democrats and they come from a Exilednight May 2016 #21

It doesn't matter. puffy socks May 2016 #33

How did he spit in the face of the party? notadmblnd May 2016 #47

Try the constant unfounded accusations against the DNC for rigging races. puffy socks May 2016 #50

So, tell me what is so precious about the party? notadmblnd May 2016 #75

Actually I think you are onto something nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #15

He was welcomed into the party - and he has always caucused and voted with the Democratic Party - djean111 May 2016 #18

He was welcomed into the party jmousso75 May 2016 #39

Indeed. I think these DNC and Clinton are still stuck in early 90s Jude the Obscure May 2016 #42

He's been basically a democrat his whole career. apnu May 2016 #71

Ever heard of BACKLASH? You will guarantee a Trump win. Skwmom May 2016 #20

The party needs Bernie and us Berners, duh! RobertEarl May 2016 #22

Including just card carrying democrats Doctor Jack May 2016 #27

We don't live in a dictatorship Doctor Jack May 2016 #23

Whether Bernie bows out gracefully, or not - all the new voters will not pivot to Hillary. djean111 May 2016 #29

I think most will Doctor Jack May 2016 #36

Over at reddit, they are talking about Jill Stein, if Bernie is not the nominee. djean111 May 2016 #48

If Bernie is out I'm voting Stein. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #81

political parties are private organizations, and while Exilednight May 2016 #37

Sanders is hardly such an extreme case Doctor Jack May 2016 #41

it's all in who you ask, and the varying degrees of their anger. Exilednight May 2016 #45

Anger did you say? passiveporcupine May 2016 #58

Sorry but he's s more reliable dem vote in the senate than a lot of dems. onecaliberal May 2016 #24

It would be utterly suicidal to do so, but please, be my guest. n/t JPnoodleman May 2016 #26

Kick Bernie out, and the Democrats who back Bernie leaves en-masse in protest Jude the Obscure May 2016 #28

For all I know, they also have the "legal right" to stand on the stage in Philly and moon us. winter is coming May 2016 #30

At this stage they would likely lose POTUS and perhaps destroy the Democratic party as a brand. PufPuf23 May 2016 #31

I hear you but what I want you to tell me is what we do to jwirr May 2016 #55

Patience and fortitude like never before. PufPuf23 May 2016 #66

Thank you. I am tempted to go to bed after answering this jwirr May 2016 #70

You are most welcome. Have a good sleep. eom PufPuf23 May 2016 #73

I don't think they do. And why would they? Bernie is NOT damaging Hillary. napi21 May 2016 #38

Bernie has already answered that - he told a reporter that jwirr May 2016 #57

Dems have more integrity... than Sanders. seabeyond May 2016 #43

Adults have to live with the consequences of their decisions Retrograde May 2016 #46

although I don't fully agree with your argument, I will Exilednight May 2016 #61

The DNC would do itself a favor saltpoint May 2016 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #52

Why? Maedhros May 2016 #56

DNC should have done that, at least it would have been more direct and honest. 2banon May 2016 #59

Why haven't they tossed him from the party? He was never IN the party? George II May 2016 #62

The DNC isn't the monster so many people want to believe it is postatomic May 2016 #64

there have been a handful of occasions where the Democratic party Exilednight May 2016 #65

I know postatomic May 2016 #67

Civil war, dogs and cats sleeping together, torching establishment buildings larkrake May 2016 #69

You make a good case for stripping him of his Senate committee posts. Nye Bevan May 2016 #74

The Clintons are viciously vindictive. Bernie�s committee posts are already gone riderinthestorm May 2016 #93

It must be nice to have all that money felix_numinous May 2016 #77

They would be doing him a favor. He is the proverbial enemy who they wanted to keep closer. GoneFishin May 2016 #79

Hillary is damging to herself Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #80

No one is trying to punish Bernie. MirrorAshes May 2016 #82

You mean the party is better USING him? djean111 May 2016 #84

He's running as a Democrat, so he's already using them isn't he? MirrorAshes May 2016 #90

The Democratic Party welcomed Bernie so that he would not split the vote by running as an djean111 May 2016 #91

So you'll stand by and let Trump win? MirrorAshes May 2016 #92

I'm not sure that's true just as a rules question (nt) Recursion May 2016 #85

The establishment Dems and Clinton underestimated the pain that is being felt by a ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #86

I could make a better case as to why Trump should have never Exilednight May 2016 #94

If they do, I'll leave the party. cliffordu May 2016 #89

They badly misunderstood the demographic that does not vote. libdem4life May 2016 #95

Bernie recently addresses this and he was right. the lower your Exilednight May 2016 #96

Financial self-esteem is mighty powerful...and cuts both ways. libdem4life May 2016 #97