2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The Sound of Silence [View all]glowing
(12,233 posts)the main reason you have engaged in so many, many, many flame wars with Sander supporters. You think people who are fighting for economic fairness, health care for all (not insurance scams), for the environment, for an overhaul of our systemic racism in police/ judicial/ govt, and educational standards that the wealthy enjoy for all our children through secondary levels, is "entitlement". As soon as you say that, most people aren't going to listen to a further word you have to say.
If there was one candidate who most felt was acting "entitled" and has stacked the establishment deck through and through, it would overwhelmingly be Clinton. It's thouroghly disheartening that our presumed first female president has adopted male patriarchal forms of establishment politics. The money, the special favors, probably even threatening dirt.... All of it is male politics, and Debbie and Clinton have embraced the corruption and the machine with full force. And for anyone who thinks its "men won't vote for a woman", well maybe if their assholes and over the age of 55, but all of the 45 and younger were begging Elizabeth Warren to run.
The DLC/ Third Way crowd has proven to be wrong on so many occasions. They have given away the country for money and power. They do nothing to help the most of the country. They do what will help them and their friends who paid for the privilege for their special favors.
When will you be shocked and dismayed at the direction she takes? Many of us have been pushing for a different direction. We have tried, and I'm sorry, call us all whacko conspiracy theorists, but these primaries have looked to be incredibly suspect in the lead up and with some of the results. And we see the polls that indicate in the GE, Bernie smokes Trump and is seen in a positive favorable light. The other two have high negative numbers. Which means the GE is probably going to produce very low voter tune out. And low voter turn out of independents that normally support a Dem, will not happen. That's when Republicans win.
That's not entitlement. Most progressives have been fighting tooth and nail for air space in the same room as a politician and one who will listen or champion their causes... Most are standing outside protesting the chicanery inside.