2016 Postmortem

LiberalFighter

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54. Just because the door is shut doesn't mean it is locked. :)

Wed May 18, 2016, 04:57 PM

May 2016

So maybe the Independents just didn't try opening the door. If they made the effort they would find they could get in.

They sure like to make excuses. Don't they?

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Why does the Democratic Party support "closed primaries"? [View all] kentuck May 2016 OP

Democratic party Members only.......thanks. stonecutter357 May 2016 #1

And the membership keeps getting smaller and smaller... kentuck May 2016 #5

anybody with at least some intelligence can figure out how to join the party for voting purposes. msongs May 2016 #2

^^this^^ nt LaydeeBug May 2016 #85

We want democrats choosing our candidates....simple beachbumbob May 2016 #3

Exactly^^^ (n/t) PJMcK May 2016 #7

I like Oregon's system because it is designed Hortensis May 2016 #16

Sounds like a good system PJMcK May 2016 #20

I think it achieves a very principled and functional Hortensis May 2016 #31

I would support Oregon's automatic registration and mail voting along with closed primary. LiberalFighter May 2016 #51

Spot on. riversedge May 2016 #53

Because we get to choose our candidate? BeyondGeography May 2016 #4

Words are cheap. kentuck May 2016 #10

We've won the PV in five of the last six presidential elections BeyondGeography May 2016 #14

All laws originate in the House. kentuck May 2016 #18

There is nothing in our processes that gives the Republicans an edge in the midterms BeyondGeography May 2016 #25

That and the gerrymandering... Blanks May 2016 #28

Congress has little say in regards to elections held in states. LiberalFighter May 2016 #52

Although a popular Congressman or Senator may help those on the ballot below them. kentuck May 2016 #60

Congress has limited power to change how states conduct their elections. LiberalFighter May 2016 #71

"Eight years of George W. Bush wasn't enough for left-leaning people to sign up? " puffy socks May 2016 #29

And promising them the moon while he's at it BeyondGeography May 2016 #33

Is free education and free healthcare the same as the "moon"? kentuck May 2016 #36

Yes thank God puffy socks May 2016 #37

I am for open primaries. bigwillq May 2016 #6

People don't like open primaries because it allows the opposition to come in and puffy socks May 2016 #40

Because Democrats should decide who will be the Democratic nominee? Cali_Democrat May 2016 #8

It's this protective paranoia that has them scared spit-less. floriduck May 2016 #9

I believe SBSers would be demanding closed primaries if Hortensis May 2016 #35

Just because the door is shut doesn't mean it is locked. :) LiberalFighter May 2016 #54

Nearly 500 of 1000 Sanders delegates did not show up Hortensis May 2016 #61

You are wrong Hortensis. floriduck May 2016 #70

In my opinion his followers would support limiting the size Hortensis May 2016 #79

Your opinion is noted. I completely disagree but you have that right. floriduck May 2016 #83

It is despicable in anyone to choose to believe lies about me Hortensis May 2016 #84

I tried to let you have your say. But if this is how you want to play, then floriduck May 2016 #86

because MFM008 May 2016 #11

Parties are all about control. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #12

With Trump already clinched, we don't want Republicans voting for our nominee to screw us. CrowCityDem May 2016 #13

To answer your first question One of the 99 May 2016 #15

No you are wrong. Fresh_Start May 2016 #32

Parties have that option only if state legislators provide it. LiberalFighter May 2016 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start May 2016 #75

States set their own election laws One of the 99 May 2016 #89

agree, the ultimate decision is within the state political parties nt Fresh_Start May 2016 #91

No the ultimate decision is made by a state's legislature One of the 99 May 2016 #92

no, look at california for example Fresh_Start May 2016 #93

Actually they don't One of the 99 May 2016 #94

I was not opining one way or the other on the supposition that GOP primary Fresh_Start May 2016 #95

So you agree that the OP's point was wrong. One of the 99 May 2016 #96

I agree that part of the OP statement is factually wrong Fresh_Start May 2016 #97

The Democratic Party is like our Union OKNancy May 2016 #17

And people wonder why over half the country doesn't vote. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #19

What happens when there are more independents than there are Democrats or Republicans? kentuck May 2016 #21

They should field their own candidate and let the chips fall where they may OKNancy May 2016 #24

It's coming. kentuck May 2016 #38

damn right it is. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #39

I don't see it happening. LiberalFighter May 2016 #59

Just like nobody can be a Chamber member without paying dues LiberalFighter May 2016 #57

Different types of Primaries... jamese777 May 2016 #22

Because the party nominee should be chosen by party members. nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #23

Closed primaries will get more people to join, not fewer! Donald Ian Rankin May 2016 #26

So that the Democratic nominee is selected by Democrats jberryhill May 2016 #27

To prevent potential problems like Trump KingFlorez May 2016 #30

It would be a nice insurance policy... kentuck May 2016 #34

Because the establishment has much greater control over the outcome. -nt- NorthCarolina May 2016 #41

To keep grassroots candidates from winning. Oligarchy baby! derpderpderp May 2016 #42

The democratic party does not support closed primaries. Buzz cook May 2016 #43

"Should we be ... trying to get more people to join?" rock May 2016 #44

To stop liberals from being nominated. imagine2015 May 2016 #45

Political parties are created to support common goals and ideas Tarc May 2016 #46

Operation Chaos bbrady42 May 2016 #47

California has a semi open primary NV Whino May 2016 #48

It is not a good ol' boy network! LiberalFighter May 2016 #49

When "super delegates make up 15% of total delegates... kentuck May 2016 #62

Superdelegates jamese777 May 2016 #66

Shouldn't they adhere to the same rules as the pledged delegates? kentuck May 2016 #67

Even without the automatic delegates she is ahead by 15 yards. LiberalFighter May 2016 #68

Simple - so non-Democrats cannot fuck with the system. Democrats should pick the Democrats. Lil Missy May 2016 #50

Because we don't want Trump supporters selecting our candidate for us TwilightZone May 2016 #55

Because you'd have people voting who don't give a shit about the party. Metric System May 2016 #58

As if it is not hard enough to get people to the polls in the first place... kentuck May 2016 #63

How does it benefit the Party to allow ratfucking Republicans to mess with our elections? Hekate May 2016 #64

I suppose there is a precedence for this "ratfucking"?? kentuck May 2016 #65

Yes, it happens every election cycle jamese777 May 2016 #74

From 2014: Angry Republican Leaders... jamese777 May 2016 #76

If people want in to the party why don't they register as a Democrat? nt Jitter65 May 2016 #69

Maybe they want to be in a different Democratic Party? kentuck May 2016 #72

Simple Answer... jamese777 May 2016 #78

REpublicans support "Open primaries" .... for Democrats...LOL! Bill USA May 2016 #73

So Democrats elect our candidate and not the Teabaggers. seabeyond May 2016 #77

Join the party if you want a say so....n/t asuhornets May 2016 #80

Don't you think the Bernie supporters are trying to join the Party? kentuck May 2016 #81

Not a threat at all. Bernie Sanders came along, and many left-leaning independents asuhornets May 2016 #82

Because the big tent has become a smoke filled room full of corporations. hobbit709 May 2016 #87

Nobody is stopping anybody from joining the Democratic Party Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #88

Why should outsiders decided Democratic party primaries? One of the 99 May 2016 #90