2016 Postmortem

Algernon Moncrieff

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88. Nobody is stopping anybody from joining the Democratic Party

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:22 PM

May 2016

However, if independents don't want to join a party, they should accept that they will be excluded from the primaries by both current major parties.

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Why does the Democratic Party support "closed primaries"? [View all] kentuck May 2016 OP

Democratic party Members only.......thanks. stonecutter357 May 2016 #1

And the membership keeps getting smaller and smaller... kentuck May 2016 #5

anybody with at least some intelligence can figure out how to join the party for voting purposes. msongs May 2016 #2

^^this^^ nt LaydeeBug May 2016 #85

We want democrats choosing our candidates....simple beachbumbob May 2016 #3

Exactly^^^ (n/t) PJMcK May 2016 #7

I like Oregon's system because it is designed Hortensis May 2016 #16

Sounds like a good system PJMcK May 2016 #20

I think it achieves a very principled and functional Hortensis May 2016 #31

I would support Oregon's automatic registration and mail voting along with closed primary. LiberalFighter May 2016 #51

Spot on. riversedge May 2016 #53

Because we get to choose our candidate? BeyondGeography May 2016 #4

Words are cheap. kentuck May 2016 #10

We've won the PV in five of the last six presidential elections BeyondGeography May 2016 #14

All laws originate in the House. kentuck May 2016 #18

There is nothing in our processes that gives the Republicans an edge in the midterms BeyondGeography May 2016 #25

That and the gerrymandering... Blanks May 2016 #28

Congress has little say in regards to elections held in states. LiberalFighter May 2016 #52

Although a popular Congressman or Senator may help those on the ballot below them. kentuck May 2016 #60

Congress has limited power to change how states conduct their elections. LiberalFighter May 2016 #71

"Eight years of George W. Bush wasn't enough for left-leaning people to sign up? " puffy socks May 2016 #29

And promising them the moon while he's at it BeyondGeography May 2016 #33

Is free education and free healthcare the same as the "moon"? kentuck May 2016 #36

Yes thank God puffy socks May 2016 #37

I am for open primaries. bigwillq May 2016 #6

People don't like open primaries because it allows the opposition to come in and puffy socks May 2016 #40

Because Democrats should decide who will be the Democratic nominee? Cali_Democrat May 2016 #8

It's this protective paranoia that has them scared spit-less. floriduck May 2016 #9

I believe SBSers would be demanding closed primaries if Hortensis May 2016 #35

Just because the door is shut doesn't mean it is locked. :) LiberalFighter May 2016 #54

Nearly 500 of 1000 Sanders delegates did not show up Hortensis May 2016 #61

You are wrong Hortensis. floriduck May 2016 #70

In my opinion his followers would support limiting the size Hortensis May 2016 #79

Your opinion is noted. I completely disagree but you have that right. floriduck May 2016 #83

It is despicable in anyone to choose to believe lies about me Hortensis May 2016 #84

I tried to let you have your say. But if this is how you want to play, then floriduck May 2016 #86

because MFM008 May 2016 #11

Parties are all about control. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #12

With Trump already clinched, we don't want Republicans voting for our nominee to screw us. CrowCityDem May 2016 #13

To answer your first question One of the 99 May 2016 #15

No you are wrong. Fresh_Start May 2016 #32

Parties have that option only if state legislators provide it. LiberalFighter May 2016 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start May 2016 #75

States set their own election laws One of the 99 May 2016 #89

agree, the ultimate decision is within the state political parties nt Fresh_Start May 2016 #91

No the ultimate decision is made by a state's legislature One of the 99 May 2016 #92

no, look at california for example Fresh_Start May 2016 #93

Actually they don't One of the 99 May 2016 #94

I was not opining one way or the other on the supposition that GOP primary Fresh_Start May 2016 #95

So you agree that the OP's point was wrong. One of the 99 May 2016 #96

I agree that part of the OP statement is factually wrong Fresh_Start May 2016 #97

The Democratic Party is like our Union OKNancy May 2016 #17

And people wonder why over half the country doesn't vote. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #19

What happens when there are more independents than there are Democrats or Republicans? kentuck May 2016 #21

They should field their own candidate and let the chips fall where they may OKNancy May 2016 #24

It's coming. kentuck May 2016 #38

damn right it is. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #39

I don't see it happening. LiberalFighter May 2016 #59

Just like nobody can be a Chamber member without paying dues LiberalFighter May 2016 #57

Different types of Primaries... jamese777 May 2016 #22

Because the party nominee should be chosen by party members. nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #23

Closed primaries will get more people to join, not fewer! Donald Ian Rankin May 2016 #26

So that the Democratic nominee is selected by Democrats jberryhill May 2016 #27

To prevent potential problems like Trump KingFlorez May 2016 #30

It would be a nice insurance policy... kentuck May 2016 #34

Because the establishment has much greater control over the outcome. -nt- NorthCarolina May 2016 #41

To keep grassroots candidates from winning. Oligarchy baby! derpderpderp May 2016 #42

The democratic party does not support closed primaries. Buzz cook May 2016 #43

"Should we be ... trying to get more people to join?" rock May 2016 #44

To stop liberals from being nominated. imagine2015 May 2016 #45

Political parties are created to support common goals and ideas Tarc May 2016 #46

Operation Chaos bbrady42 May 2016 #47

California has a semi open primary NV Whino May 2016 #48

It is not a good ol' boy network! LiberalFighter May 2016 #49

When "super delegates make up 15% of total delegates... kentuck May 2016 #62

Superdelegates jamese777 May 2016 #66

Shouldn't they adhere to the same rules as the pledged delegates? kentuck May 2016 #67

Even without the automatic delegates she is ahead by 15 yards. LiberalFighter May 2016 #68

Simple - so non-Democrats cannot fuck with the system. Democrats should pick the Democrats. Lil Missy May 2016 #50

Because we don't want Trump supporters selecting our candidate for us TwilightZone May 2016 #55

Because you'd have people voting who don't give a shit about the party. Metric System May 2016 #58

As if it is not hard enough to get people to the polls in the first place... kentuck May 2016 #63

How does it benefit the Party to allow ratfucking Republicans to mess with our elections? Hekate May 2016 #64

I suppose there is a precedence for this "ratfucking"?? kentuck May 2016 #65

Yes, it happens every election cycle jamese777 May 2016 #74

From 2014: Angry Republican Leaders... jamese777 May 2016 #76

If people want in to the party why don't they register as a Democrat? nt Jitter65 May 2016 #69

Maybe they want to be in a different Democratic Party? kentuck May 2016 #72

Simple Answer... jamese777 May 2016 #78

REpublicans support "Open primaries" .... for Democrats...LOL! Bill USA May 2016 #73

So Democrats elect our candidate and not the Teabaggers. seabeyond May 2016 #77

Join the party if you want a say so....n/t asuhornets May 2016 #80

Don't you think the Bernie supporters are trying to join the Party? kentuck May 2016 #81

Not a threat at all. Bernie Sanders came along, and many left-leaning independents asuhornets May 2016 #82

Because the big tent has become a smoke filled room full of corporations. hobbit709 May 2016 #87

Nobody is stopping anybody from joining the Democratic Party Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #88

Why should outsiders decided Democratic party primaries? One of the 99 May 2016 #90