2016 Postmortem

Baobab

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20. They already gave many core issues away but they lied to the country- so they cant tell us that

Wed May 18, 2016, 10:38 PM

May 2016

For example, health care, as some here perhaps may now know, trade policy is the main problem, something they totally lied about, very serious, big lie- you can read about these things in my sig- the links there show this- also it seems to me that for >15-20 yrs they have been promising those service jobs (its called "mode IV&quot to third world countries, if they only can be the winning low bidders, and they have not delivered because they needed a "crisis" to get the country to go along, so it took some time to get the lead in to this crisis right, So soon we will be told we need this to solve the "crisis" - which is avoidable- Same thing with higher education. They want to get rid of generic drugs and they need those jobs in play, to give them more leverage, likely to India.

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It has become painfully obvious that Hillary has no intention of unifying the party [View all] markpkessinger May 2016 OP

What is Bernie's plan to unify the party? Renew Deal May 2016 #1

Crickets. cwydro May 2016 #14

They already gave many core issues away but they lied to the country- so they cant tell us that Baobab May 2016 #20

It's starting... AgingAmerican May 2016 #23

you going to that? timmymoff May 2016 #54

Oh Cool, good to know, Naomi Klein (among others) 2banon May 2016 #62

Bernies plan? Break up the big banks! redstateblues May 2016 #36

We'll know by June 10, I suspect. joshcryer May 2016 #38

You don't understand Dem2 May 2016 #41

Reagan, Bush, and Billy Boy capping it all off, and you guys want him back in the WH 2banon May 2016 #64

"You guys" Dem2 May 2016 #70

for perspective 2banon May 2016 #85

So a bunch of whining about people that nobody can relate to? Dem2 May 2016 #89

uhh. It ain't mythical, and to them it's not name calling. 2banon May 2016 #90

I've been sent to the Wikipedia over and over again Dem2 May 2016 #91

It needs fixing, first. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #49

Oh, is Bernie the Victor now? 2banon May 2016 #61

Tell us which policy of Bernie's you disagree with pinebox May 2016 #71

WOW... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #76

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buhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!11!!!!11!!!!1 workinclasszero May 2016 #78

So, since you didn't comment on the OP, the only thing we can do is assume you agree with it. Dawgs May 2016 #80

The responsibility for unifying the party is on the people who created the divide in the first place 2banon May 2016 #84

You noticed that too? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #2

Well, she can be reasonably sure we won't vote for Trump. Barack_America May 2016 #11

Trump enabler redstateblues May 2016 #37

Uh pinebox May 2016 #73

A third party vote, a write-in vote or sitting on your hands at home this fall workinclasszero May 2016 #86

No. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. Barack_America May 2016 #99

That is what I have been thinking and posting, the neo-liberals PufPuf23 May 2016 #17

I can't stay in a party that is going to steal my vote. I am tired of the way the party controls liberal_at_heart May 2016 #24

As long as we have a two party system one is better able to leverage one's vote PufPuf23 May 2016 #26

I will not be held hostage by the two party system anymore. The shackles have come off. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #27

Yes shanti May 2016 #48

The shackles are still on. We either retake a major party, or we don't ever control anything. w4rma May 2016 #55

Alas as one party goes fascist nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #63

Not exactly true. Within the parties there can be divisions, and small caucuses can be key to powe HereSince1628 May 2016 #68

We no longer have time for that. jeff47 May 2016 #93

Ridiculous! hrmjustin May 2016 #3

Now I would like to see some proof of your post, it is not true. I saw the other day where Sanders Thinkingabout May 2016 #4

well let's see. timmymoff May 2016 #8

What has this got to do with unitifying the party? Thinkingabout May 2016 #13

You unify it by sucking up to your enemies? She called them that if you recall. timmymoff May 2016 #16

Sanders and his followers are worse enemies so far than the Republicans and Trump. kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #29

How could sanders weaken such a thoroughly vetted candidate? timmymoff May 2016 #30

+27 chwaliszewski May 2016 #58

Proof? Who needs proof? notadmblnd May 2016 #12

"...Sanders and Trump are attracting the same type of people." mia May 2016 #50

hate to say this (truly) reddread May 2016 #5

I never thought she was n/t markpkessinger May 2016 #7

It has become painfully obvious that the perpetually disgruntled have ... JoePhilly May 2016 #6

Many Trump enablers on this thread redstateblues May 2016 #39

Is a Trump enabler a person who accepts campaign cash from Trump? timmymoff May 2016 #52

yup ... he's become their only hope. JoePhilly May 2016 #69

Hey Red State. My Blue State just voted for Bernie by a large margin, in November we will Bluenorthwest May 2016 #72

Yeah, keep going with that, see how well it works out for you. Jester Messiah May 2016 #81

That was obvious 25 years ago when Kochs were funding the DLC. HooptieWagon May 2016 #9

They want us to compromise Mnpaul May 2016 #10

Hi! Eko May 2016 #21

She is committing the cardinal sin of winning the nomination BeyondGeography May 2016 #15

Yeah. How dare she? Doesn't she know her place? COLGATE4 May 2016 #33

Clintonian Triangulation, baby! QC May 2016 #18

For me - way too 840high May 2016 #19

Admit it, most of you Sanders supporters never had any interest in unity. kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #31

Why should I unite for a candidate 840high May 2016 #47

Republicans won't vote for her AgingAmerican May 2016 #22

If that's true then it's a big FAIL that will bite the big time post-GE PFunk1 May 2016 #25

Yep. I look forward to seeing all the "Democratic Independent" COLGATE4 May 2016 #34

Republicans might hate trump but they hate her more: onecaliberal May 2016 #28

Her plan is even sillier than that d_legendary1 May 2016 #32

Actually, rational people choose to live. But don't let me interrupt COLGATE4 May 2016 #35

Those same rational people gave us eight years of Bush d_legendary1 May 2016 #44

I think you meant 'don't overestimate the intelligence of the American public'. COLGATE4 May 2016 #79

Nope. Overestimate means that they voted for Clinton and therefore d_legendary1 May 2016 #87

Jeez-extreme hyperbole much? redstateblues May 2016 #40

Choosing between a Pro-Corporate Dem and a Pro-Corporate Republican d_legendary1 May 2016 #45

Haha Dem2 May 2016 #42

Why won't it work? And why do you feel lovemydog May 2016 #43

Because Republican voters literally *hate* Clinton. They have been trained by right-wing radio to w4rma May 2016 #56

I think it's a weird year. lovemydog May 2016 #57

She won't be able to attract enough Republicans ... markpkessinger May 2016 #60

What percentage of current Sanders supporters, lovemydog May 2016 #65

Honestly I think it's less pinebox May 2016 #74

I think it's ignorant lovemydog May 2016 #94

Many of us don't fall in line pinebox May 2016 #95

I know that's how you & many feel. lovemydog May 2016 #97

Hillary got Republican women voters to crossover last time. procon May 2016 #46

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #51

I said as much, many, many months ago know. They'd sooner destroy it than do silvershadow May 2016 #53

No let's correct the record felix_numinous May 2016 #59

^^^THIS^^^ haikugal May 2016 #67

Bullshit. RBInMaine May 2016 #66

Come on, surely you can elaborate. pinebox May 2016 #75

I suspect a portion of Bernie's supporters do not want to be unified. LonePirate May 2016 #82

Her choice of running mate will make it really clear one way or the other corkhead May 2016 #83

Her and her supporters are still PUMAs. Party Unity My Ass. They do not care about Bernie supporters jillan May 2016 #88

Excuse me????? Beacool May 2016 #92

oh, and Sanders does? Blue_Tires May 2016 #96

What exactly does she have to do to your satisfaction at this point? Tommy_Carcetti May 2016 #98