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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Regarding Superdelegates -- Sanders Supporters Have Been Lied To [View all]

The writer raises very important points about Superdelegates, Electability and this sudden Moving of Goalposts.
Sanders Supporters Have Been Lied To, and Heres How
by Seth Abramson
Huffington Post, May 18, 2016
For a full year from early 2015 to early 2016 Sanders supporters were told that superdelegates pick whoever they believe is the strongest general-election candidate.
SNIP...
What those rules state is this: if a front-runner emerges whos unable to secure the Democratic nomination using pledged delegates alone and note, it only takes 59 percent of the pledged delegates available to do so superdelegates will choose a nominee based on their assessment of each candidates electoral viability.
SNIP...
After winning more than 60 percent of the pledged delegates through March 1st, Clinton is now likely to lose the majority of pledged delegates awarded between March 2nd and June 14th a two and a half month period that makes up roughly the final two-thirds of the Democratic nominating process.
But it isnt just this as striking a fact as it is that has caused real concern about whether Clinton can win in the fall. Its also that Clintons unfavorables have risen to historic levels; that Clinton performs consistently worse than Sanders against Donald Trump in both general election and battleground-state polling; that there are states (for instance, Georgia, Arizona, and Ohio) that polling shows Sanders would win and Clinton would lose in the general election, along with many others (among them New Hampshire and Pennsylvania) where Clinton is in a dead heat with Trump and Sanders wins handily; that Clinton loses independent voters to Trump while Sanders wins them overwhelmingly; that Clinton cant draw crowds with even a fraction of the numbers or energy that Sanders crowds routinely have; that Clinton isnt considered nearly as honest or trustworthy as Sanders, according to every poll of voters; and that a movement candidate will be needed to defeat Donald Trump, whereas, instead of a movement candidate, what Clinton is giving the Democrats is Al Gore 2.0.
The problem, in sum, is that Clinton is looking like a clear November loser, and Sanders a probable November winner.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/this-is-the-one-way-in-wh_b_10026870.html
by Seth Abramson
Huffington Post, May 18, 2016
For a full year from early 2015 to early 2016 Sanders supporters were told that superdelegates pick whoever they believe is the strongest general-election candidate.
SNIP...
What those rules state is this: if a front-runner emerges whos unable to secure the Democratic nomination using pledged delegates alone and note, it only takes 59 percent of the pledged delegates available to do so superdelegates will choose a nominee based on their assessment of each candidates electoral viability.
SNIP...
After winning more than 60 percent of the pledged delegates through March 1st, Clinton is now likely to lose the majority of pledged delegates awarded between March 2nd and June 14th a two and a half month period that makes up roughly the final two-thirds of the Democratic nominating process.
But it isnt just this as striking a fact as it is that has caused real concern about whether Clinton can win in the fall. Its also that Clintons unfavorables have risen to historic levels; that Clinton performs consistently worse than Sanders against Donald Trump in both general election and battleground-state polling; that there are states (for instance, Georgia, Arizona, and Ohio) that polling shows Sanders would win and Clinton would lose in the general election, along with many others (among them New Hampshire and Pennsylvania) where Clinton is in a dead heat with Trump and Sanders wins handily; that Clinton loses independent voters to Trump while Sanders wins them overwhelmingly; that Clinton cant draw crowds with even a fraction of the numbers or energy that Sanders crowds routinely have; that Clinton isnt considered nearly as honest or trustworthy as Sanders, according to every poll of voters; and that a movement candidate will be needed to defeat Donald Trump, whereas, instead of a movement candidate, what Clinton is giving the Democrats is Al Gore 2.0.
The problem, in sum, is that Clinton is looking like a clear November loser, and Sanders a probable November winner.
CONTINUED...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/this-is-the-one-way-in-wh_b_10026870.html
What to do? should not be a problem. Side with DEMOCRACY -- fairly, transparently, and in the open. After all, we ARE the Democratic Party.
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Bernie would be crushed once the Rs looped video of Bernie promising to raise taxes on the middle class
redstateblues
May 2016
#9
What if he lived 10,000 lives? and he suffered dandruff with rocks as big as cufflinks?
Octafish
May 2016
#39
Is your reliance on photos a camouflage for the paucity of thought that goes into your arguments?
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#44
This has become the contradiction of the argument Sanders supporters are making.
Algernon Moncrieff
May 2016
#33
LOL! You are implictly admitting that Clinton has been relying on a backroom deal
amborin
May 2016
#41
Clinton leads sanders in pledged delegates, super delegates, and votes.
Algernon Moncrieff
May 2016
#45
Abramson cites exactly nothing for the claim that the DNC assured anyone that Superdelegates
onenote
May 2016
#30
Sounds good. And after that I hope and expect that the superdelegates will side with whoever
YouDig
May 2016
#23
Interesting observation. What is the point of having Superdelegates if not to use them, though?
Octafish
May 2016
#58
It keeps getting repeated that Clinton is wildly unpopular. How does she lead in votes? Explain pls.
brush
May 2016
#36
Totaling up the votes cast in caucus states requires some work but is possible.
onenote
May 2016
#52
The article referenced in you post says the Dem party "changed the rules". That's the same as . . .
brush
May 2016
#63
I wish there was a policy this election: no articles from Goodman and Abramson.
Beacool
May 2016
#65