2016 Postmortem

DRI

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14. We have a serious problem.

Thu May 19, 2016, 08:52 AM

May 2016

Hillary is a terrible candidate. Bernie has energy, fires up the base, has the ideas but was shut out in getting his message to the general Democratic voter in the fall by the DNC and the Hillary machine. Unfortunately I do not see a way Bernie can win.

Now in three polls this week, NBC, FOX, and Rassmussen Trump is leading or tied with Clinton. The worst news is that Clinton in all three polls worse with men than Trump with women!!! She also is trailing Trump by eight to ten points with white women!

It is my belief that once the primaries are over many of the Bernie supporters who may be responding to a Trump/Clinton poll today are protesting and responding Trump will come back to Clinton but many may still not vote. This would be bad not just for Clinton but the .democratic party candidates down the ballot. Why the hell does Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC not seem to care and continue to attack Bernie!

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Say what you will about Clinton, but she rigged the hell out of the machine [View all] ProfessorPlum May 2016 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #1

Sore losers puffy socks May 2016 #2

^ Land of Enchantment May 2016 #35

Funny coming from a member since Feb MattP May 2016 #52

Another arikara May 2016 #96

Curious- your choice of words notadmblnd May 2016 #41

No, I just happened to post it that way because Bernie supporters puffy socks May 2016 #66

And she's the worst candidate the Democrtaic party could run vs Trump... Yurovsky May 2016 #70

Yeah right puffy socks May 2016 #87

Read the OP. Understand it this time. senz May 2016 #101

How come Bernie is the crowd gatherer and Hillary not... Bohemianwriter May 2016 #107

Oh, You Are SOOO Right... There Is No One In American History Like Her... It Is Frank Testimony To CorporatistNation May 2016 #111

I suppose you get extra points for applauding yourself and waving the flag. nt leveymg May 2016 #80

I'm applauding Hillarys nomination puffy socks May 2016 #86

You are applauding political Kabuki Theater. leveymg May 2016 #90

Please. puffy socks May 2016 #92

I know this because that's how it has to work. The facts leveymg May 2016 #97

K&R onecaliberal May 2016 #3

Precisely. djean111 May 2016 #4

If this is how Hillary runs her campaign, then how will she govern? -none May 2016 #5

exactly! I remember too well what Bush did with his stolen election J_J_ May 2016 #69

It will be the first corporate Presidency? Katashi_itto May 2016 #6

Ah, no, Bill's was the first, and he said so! Welcome the DLC and centurists who take corp cash. ViseGrip May 2016 #11

You're way late on that ProfessorPlum May 2016 #12

We're just hard charging right back into the Roaring 20's, robber baron era. VulgarPoet May 2016 #23

and she is still going to lose FlatBaroque May 2016 #7

As we used to say, TOO MCH, MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia May 2016 #8

Election fraud in MA,IL,NY,DE,MD,AZ,NV & now KY make Hillary an illegitimate nominee ViseGrip May 2016 #9

+1,000,001 dchill May 2016 #15

Makes sense, since she's basically a machine herself. Flying Squirrel May 2016 #22

TPTB will make that happen... they can't bank on Trump 2banon May 2016 #42

As with everything they have both sides covered so they win with either one. nt 2cannan May 2016 #71

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!####!!!!!! $$$$!!! kwassa May 2016 #88

It could be more votes. But it's not. Her victory is a fraud. reformist2 May 2016 #91

And yet with all that TDale313 May 2016 #10

Agreed. Well said ProfessorPlum May 2016 #13

Well Said pmorlan1 May 2016 #33

Well put! 2banon May 2016 #43

We have a serious problem. DRI May 2016 #14

Yes, there is a serious problem, she polls badly, and always has, but TPTB will fix that 2banon May 2016 #47

Absolutely agree LondonReign2 May 2016 #74

No matter the will of the electorate? So far the electorate has put her in the lead. LonePirate May 2016 #16

A rather small cross-section of the electorate, though. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #45

excellent post ProfessorPlum May 2016 #48

Right, keep telling yourself that the candidate who is leading by over 3 million votes book_worm May 2016 #17

You all trott that number out but in reality pinebox May 2016 #18

+1000 Katashi_itto May 2016 #21

The more people see of Hillary, the less they like her LondonReign2 May 2016 #75

Loves ya, PP, but common sense must prevail. Had it actually been rigged the primary would've ended blm May 2016 #19

what fairy tales? ProfessorPlum May 2016 #24

Yes! pmorlan1 May 2016 #36

Having attended many a county and state convention I know firsthand they aren't blm May 2016 #50

Hillary and President Obama ran in 2008 Progressive dog May 2016 #20

8 additional years of crushing voter id laws and the repeal of the lakeguy May 2016 #34

nice version of the 'facts' re:Nevada...other than the stuff you left out...& what the videos prove, islandmkl May 2016 #112

Hillary is incredibly corrupt amborin May 2016 #25

Since most of the 'rigged' voting rules have been in place for decades, she must be a genius! CrowCityDem May 2016 #26

you can show me where I said anything about voting rules ProfessorPlum May 2016 #30

She got more votes. A lot more. Why did you leave that out of your conspiracy theory? YouDig May 2016 #27

the description was about why and how she got votes ProfessorPlum May 2016 #31

It's a shame our votes here in Washington state ... Optimism May 2016 #44

All True pmorlan1 May 2016 #28

yes, it is. That's where *our* political genius has to shine ProfessorPlum May 2016 #29

Excellent OP Trajan May 2016 #32

K&R cliffordu May 2016 #37

... LexVegas May 2016 #38

Excellent Post! 2banon May 2016 #39

TL;DR version: wahhh! workinclasszero May 2016 #40

You are an embodiment of Hillary's classiness LondonReign2 May 2016 #77

I'm in even more awe of people who attribute super-powers to her ability to be in seven precincts at LanternWaste May 2016 #46

? ProfessorPlum May 2016 #49

Not only that, she made sure Bernie mostly sucked at the debates BeyondGeography May 2016 #51

The problem is what she wants to move ahead with. jeff47 May 2016 #53

He's losing because voters don't vote for him. procon May 2016 #54

I'm curious as to what you think is a "fiction story" ProfessorPlum May 2016 #55

If you're going to pose questions and answer them yourself, procon May 2016 #68

"the OPs tiresome Bernie fiction story" ProfessorPlum May 2016 #73

Why bother? procon May 2016 #81

You are my huckleberry though Fairgo May 2016 #93

a relief to babies everywhere. ProfessorPlum May 2016 #95

Good, just updated my IL mrdmk May 2016 #98

HEAR! HEAR! snagglepuss May 2016 #56

However, the well oiled machine is being clogged by toxic baggage. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #57

Please, Sanders was never going to be the nominee. Beacool May 2016 #58

Sanders is more of a Democrat than either of the Clinton's ever will be ProfessorPlum May 2016 #60

More registered Democrats voted for Hillary and this is a Democratic primary, Beacool May 2016 #65

who said anything about independents? ProfessorPlum May 2016 #67

"Rigged" is the new Bernie meme. kwassa May 2016 #59

Please give this "3 million votes" meme a rest ProfessorPlum May 2016 #62

3 million more votes equals RIGGED workinclasszero May 2016 #83

And how is that rigged? kwassa May 2016 #84

Ask a Berner workinclasszero May 2016 #89

Holy damn... It's almost like she wants to be president or something... Blue_Tires May 2016 #61

That's pretty much my point ProfessorPlum May 2016 #63

Let's hope she is because many won't be azmom May 2016 #82

All the cheating has been by the Hillary camp AgingAmerican May 2016 #64

Hmmm... I'm going with "in the Parlor with a Plastic Butter Knife" postatomic May 2016 #72

Hate Squad, another addition my IL mrdmk May 2016 #99

The irony was obviously lost on you postatomic May 2016 #113

It's positively disgusting. HooptieWagon May 2016 #76

Also known as "winning." ucrdem May 2016 #78

Legwork, and quid pro quo corruption ProfessorPlum May 2016 #79

Fantastical. And pure paranoid fantasy. kwassa May 2016 #85

indeed. It isn't like the head of the DNC is totally in the bag for her ProfessorPlum May 2016 #94

Not really impressed. frustrated_lefty May 2016 #100

You summed up the whole hideous monstrosity very well. senz May 2016 #102

Even with all the advantages, Sanders got 45% of the vote, when independents are ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #103

She rigged it against the black guy in 08 too? :rolleyes:@ConsummateWhining uponit7771 May 2016 #104

Read it again, carefully ProfessorPlum May 2016 #109

Seems like Americans need a crisis such as the Great Depression to vote their own best interests Califonz May 2016 #105

Even then most Americans seem to buy the propaganda ProfessorPlum May 2016 #108

Another INSANE conspiracy theory post. RBInMaine May 2016 #106

Thanks for the thoughtful critique ProfessorPlum May 2016 #110