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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Sanders, Eyeing Convention, Willing to Harm Hillary Clinton in the Homestretch [View all]pinebox
(5,761 posts)49. Call it for what it is
The only crybabies in this primary...
are the Bernie supporters who are perpetual victims.
are the Bernie supporters who are perpetual victims.
Own it.
You don't blame Hillary for globalization when she is out selling trade deals and things like fracking to the whole world? Sorry but she is partially directly responsible for gloabalization.
No, kids came home in coffins because of people like Hillary and Bush. That and only that. Both Obama and Sanders said "no" and they were correct in saying no. Hillary and the rest who voted voted "yes" are directly responsible for the deaths of millions. That alone should concern you because it is perfect illustration of Hillary's bad judgement.
Obama said it best when he lambasted Hillary over Iraq. She gets no free pass with this and remember, who called Iraq a "business opportunity".
I have seen no conspiracy theories of voter fraud but what I have seen is videos which display it rather accordingly and what happened in NV was complete unadulterated crap with how the chair put forth her motion and passed her own motion while Bernie delegates were standing in line. Sorry but that isn't democracy, in fact it's borderline fascism.
You say an FBi investigation pales in comparison to what Bernie is doing to Hillary. See, there you go again. Hillary has more baggage than anybody else in this election. She is permanently damaged and her favorability shows and reflects that. The FBI isn't the Keystone Cops, they are the FBI and Hillary outright LIED about having classified information on the server. Why do you dismiss that in someone who is running for POTUS? The FBI *only* conducts criminal investigations and the fact that a candidate is under one is a huge issue. What if you or I walked into a job interview and had to tell our prospective employer we were under an FBI investigation? How do you think that would play out? It wouldn't because we wouldn't be hired.
The one who is risking a Trump presidency is the one who is now showing in some polls to lose to him; Hillary. She is the weaker candidate and it's irresponsible to support that knowing that she is. You can't win the White House on only Dem support and please, don't call out to Bernie supporters who would have never voted for Hillary in the first place because they don't see much difference between her and Bob Dole.
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Sanders, Eyeing Convention, Willing to Harm Hillary Clinton in the Homestretch [View all]
bigtree
May 2016
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Clinton, refusing to bow out, willing to harm Bernie in the homestretch. nt
silvershadow
May 2016
#1
Hillary supporters wanted Obama to bow out in '08 so quit the bullshit sexist talk.
JRLeft
May 2016
#50
People who are expecting Hillary's politics to be pro women and minorities may be very surprised
Baobab
May 2016
#119
Do you remember official surrogate Geraldine Ferraro's words in march of 2008?
Bluenorthwest
May 2016
#92
plus Sanders has gone so easy on Hillary starting with refusing all the cable news baiting
GreatGazoo
May 2016
#18
Amen. It's not Sanders who is sobbing her candidacy. Hillary is. Sanders is used unfairly
silvershadow
May 2016
#116
No respect for being her for us in case she is indicted? At least he is am equally as strong
silvershadow
May 2016
#117
Absolutely sickening. Proves Bernie is only out for himself. He deserves ZERO respect now.
CrowCityDem
May 2016
#12
Hillary's two remaining opponents have more in common with each other than they do with her.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#63
I think it's becoming more & more obvious that Mr Sanders is being poorly served by his advisors.
baldguy
May 2016
#26
Nice of that great "democrat" Sanders to let Trump and the republicans know
workinclasszero
May 2016
#42
Hillary stripped herself bare, humbled herself, and gave Barack Obama...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#81
Well, disregarding the popular vote isn't going to bring us any closer to one.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#87
See. I would never arrogate to myself the right to tell your or anybody how to vote.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#90
I think Trump would be an unmitigated disaster... I think he is a fundamentally bad guy.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#94
No. She didn't want to steal the nomination from an African American and blow up the party!
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#107
Isn't it intriguing how so many "independent" posters can reach the same limp non-sequitur
lumberjack_jeff
May 2016
#67
Here is Hillary from Spring 2008, praising McCain's experience and casting shade on Obama's:
Bluenorthwest
May 2016
#68
so, "Hillary and her tone deaf supporters try to short circuit the democratic process'
bigtree
May 2016
#95
Baloney. Hillary stayed in the race against Obama and everything worked out fine.
Vinca
May 2016
#98
The actions of Hillary supporters this last week proves she is more than willing
AgingAmerican
May 2016
#118