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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Regarding Superdelegates -- Sanders Supporters Have Been Lied To [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)48. That is a great question.
I imagine it has to do with how the votes are counted.
For instance, the totals often leave out the votes in caucuses. Other times, voters get left off entirely, like in Brooklyn.
Perhaps one day, maybe after a presidential election is overturned by the rule of the Supreme Court say, we'll repair our voting system so it's transparent and fair and accountable.
Remember the guy who created a combination of the two? Athan Gibbs found a way to tabulate votes electronically and then generate a paper ballot for the voter and the precinct records. He died when a semi-truck smashed his car against a guard rail.
Death of a patriot: No more
By Bob Fitrakis
March 17, 2004
The subject line on yesterdays email read: Another mysterious accident solves a Bush problem. Athan Gibbs dead, Diebold lives. The attached news story briefly described the untimely Friday, March 12th death of perhaps Americas most influential advocate of a verified voting paper trail in the era of touch screen computer voting. Gibbs, an accountant for more than 30 years and the inventor of the TruVote system, died when his vehicle collided with an 18-wheeled truck which rolled his Chevy Blazer several times and forced it over the highway retaining wall where it came to rest on its roof.
Coincidence theorists will simply dismiss the death of Gibbs as a tragic accident the same conclusion these coincidence theorists came to when anti-nuclear activist Karen Silkwood died in November 1974 when her car struck a concrete embankment en route to a meeting with New York Times reporter David Burnham. Prominent independent investigators concluded that Silkwoods car was hit from behind and forced off the road. Silkwood was reportedly carrying documents that would expose illegal activities at the Kerr-McGee nuclear fuel plant. The FBI report found that she fell asleep at the wheel after overdosing on Quaaludes and that there never were any such files. A journalist secretly employed by the FBI, and a veteran of the Bureaus COINTELPRO operation against political activists, provided testimony for the FBI report.
Gibbs death bears heightened scrutiny because of the way he lived his life after the 2000 Florida election debacle. I interviewed Athan Gibbs in January of this year. Ive been an accountant, an auditor, for more than thirty years. Electronic voting machines that dont supply a paper trail go against every principle of accounting and auditing thats being taught in American business schools, he insisted.
SNIP...
Gibbs TruVote machine is a marvel. After voters touch the screen, a paper ballot prints out under plexiglass and once the voter compares it to his actual vote and approves it, the ballot drops into a lockbox and is issued a numbered receipt. The voters receipt allows the track his particular vote to make sure that it was transferred from the polling place to the election tabulation center.
My encounter with Gibbs led to a cover story in the Columbus Free Press March-April issue, entitled, Diebold, electronic voting and the vast right-wing conspiracy. The thesis I advanced in the Free Press article is that some of the same right-wing individuals who backed the CIAs covert actions and overthrowing of democratic elections in the Third World in the 1980s are now involved in privatized touch screen voting. Additionally I co-wrote an article with Harvey Wasserman that was posted at MotherJones.com on March 5, 2004. Both articles outlined ties between far right elements of the Republican Party and Diebold and ES&S, which count the majority of the nations electronic votes.
CONTINUED...
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/853
If you have a resource that tabs caucus votes, please let me know. I'll help you add it up and see what the results are.
Thanks for standing up for Democracy. Let me know what you find.
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Bernie would be crushed once the Rs looped video of Bernie promising to raise taxes on the middle class
redstateblues
May 2016
#9
What if he lived 10,000 lives? and he suffered dandruff with rocks as big as cufflinks?
Octafish
May 2016
#39
Is your reliance on photos a camouflage for the paucity of thought that goes into your arguments?
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2016
#44
This has become the contradiction of the argument Sanders supporters are making.
Algernon Moncrieff
May 2016
#33
LOL! You are implictly admitting that Clinton has been relying on a backroom deal
amborin
May 2016
#41
Clinton leads sanders in pledged delegates, super delegates, and votes.
Algernon Moncrieff
May 2016
#45
Abramson cites exactly nothing for the claim that the DNC assured anyone that Superdelegates
onenote
May 2016
#30
Sounds good. And after that I hope and expect that the superdelegates will side with whoever
YouDig
May 2016
#23
Interesting observation. What is the point of having Superdelegates if not to use them, though?
Octafish
May 2016
#58
It keeps getting repeated that Clinton is wildly unpopular. How does she lead in votes? Explain pls.
brush
May 2016
#36
Totaling up the votes cast in caucus states requires some work but is possible.
onenote
May 2016
#52
The article referenced in you post says the Dem party "changed the rules". That's the same as . . .
brush
May 2016
#63
I wish there was a policy this election: no articles from Goodman and Abramson.
Beacool
May 2016
#65