2016 Postmortem

kiva

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7. Why isn't it comparable?

Thu May 19, 2016, 11:54 AM

May 2016

I'm thinking that protesting the subversion of democracy at a Democratic Convention is right up there with other causes.

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Be very careful about embracing the "violence" rhetoric [View all] Prism May 2016 OP

Okay, how about people throwing a temper tantrum form not getting their way? tonyt53 May 2016 #1

Awesome. Lets do it! Autumn May 2016 #3

And this is your version of democracy? Prism May 2016 #4

You mean the Union Boss's like they will face anyone down? because the members aren't buying it. bahrbearian May 2016 #9

Union Boss's is right wing speech workinclasszero May 2016 #67

According to you - everything is rw speech. 840high May 2016 #78

No union doing endorsements by polling its members has ever gone for Clinton eridani May 2016 #109

So you complain about violence with a threat of violence. jeff47 May 2016 #11

The Hillbot speaks. Katashi_itto May 2016 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #22

Send in the goons? closeupready May 2016 #23

Wow another April account Duckhunter935 May 2016 #102

Nothing here is comparable to BLM and thier fight. Nothing. Not the narrative you are trying to sell NCTraveler May 2016 #2

Only because it doesn't fit YOUR narrative of the day. Autumn May 2016 #5

What is my narrative of the day? nt. NCTraveler May 2016 #21

It's all over the place NC. Just look at any OP by a Hill supporter Autumn May 2016 #37

You made it clear you were singling me out personally. NCTraveler May 2016 #40

If you don't know I can't help you. It's like you Hill's are looking into a mirror blindfolded. Autumn May 2016 #43

Deflection again. If you are going to make a comment be willing to back it up. NCTraveler May 2016 #45

I'm not playing your game. The OPs by Hill supporters are all in GDP. There's your narrative. Autumn May 2016 #46

It's your claim you are running from. I understand why. NCTraveler May 2016 #52

It must be too hard for you to look for the violent Bernie supporters crap posted by hill supporters Autumn May 2016 #55

You are trying to get your key words in so desperately that you are making no sense.... NCTraveler May 2016 #57

I know you want me to link them but I won't, since one Bernie supporter got a hide Autumn May 2016 #65

False flag!!!! False flag!!!! NCTraveler May 2016 #72

How wonderful!!!! A Phychic !!!! Will you give me the lotto numbers if I call your 800 #? Autumn May 2016 #84

I'm no "phychic" NCTraveler May 2016 #86

Why isn't it comparable? kiva May 2016 #7

Look at the reason for the Furgeson protests. Tell me they are even close to equal. NCTraveler May 2016 #26

Subverting the will of the people by convincing Superdelegates to change their mind? Armstead May 2016 #32

Yes. NCTraveler May 2016 #34

Not in my state the supers 14 out of 17 are with Hillary in a state that went 62% for Bernie azurnoir May 2016 #63

I had no idea they were beholden to their state. This is a new one for me. NCTraveler May 2016 #69

so elected officials are not beholden to their constituents?- azurnoir May 2016 #75

Supers are not. Correct. You are the first to tell me you think their vote at the convention is. nt. NCTraveler May 2016 #77

I think elected officials need to listen to the voices of their constituents so far in Mn 2 have azurnoir May 2016 #80

I hope they would in their elected position. NCTraveler May 2016 #85

No I assure she would not be - I am asking for the elected Democratic super from my state azurnoir May 2016 #88

Lets say that a rule was in place where the candidate who won a state recieved all supers... NCTraveler May 2016 #90

It does not or should not need to be a rule elected officials should be beholden to the people that azurnoir May 2016 #91

This is your thought experiment. That is really all it is because it has no basis in reality. NCTraveler May 2016 #96

It is no thought experiment on my part anyway it is fact at least in a Democracy azurnoir May 2016 #97

Your topic line makes no sense. NCTraveler May 2016 #98

Democracy is everyone's fight Prism May 2016 #8

I don't dismiss voter fraud or disenfranchisement. NCTraveler May 2016 #28

Well, we'll see Prism May 2016 #31

Roger that. Keep a close eye out. Thanks. nt. NCTraveler May 2016 #35

did you feel the same in 2008 BlueStateLib May 2016 #58

Feel the same about what? I have always been against voter fraud and disenfranchisement. NCTraveler May 2016 #59

ACT UP protested the ongoing inaction toward AIDS while our government did nothing and the Bluenorthwest May 2016 #71

"You dismiss that " NCTraveler May 2016 #73

You dismissed ACT UP as not comparable to BLM right here in this thread. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #79

Out of control grumpies? auntpurl May 2016 #6

You don't know if there were agitators there just to slime the attending delegates. MaeScott May 2016 #13

They self-identify as Bernie supporters auntpurl May 2016 #19

Westboro Baptist self identifies as Christian but if you say 'Christians protested LGBT funerals' Bluenorthwest May 2016 #76

No I'm not. auntpurl May 2016 #81

Westboro is a group. So Christians did those things? Islamic State is not one guy, it's lots of Bluenorthwest May 2016 #87

I most certainly do not think most Bernie supporters behave like that! auntpurl May 2016 #89

They have not 'become' the face, you are actively attempting to paint that face on us Bluenorthwest May 2016 #92

I am personally trying to paint that face on you? auntpurl May 2016 #94

The entire internet is a death threat Prism May 2016 #17

I take your point, but disagree. auntpurl May 2016 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #20

You don't know who made those threats after the fact. peace13 May 2016 #25

As mentioned above, they self-identify as Bernie supporters. auntpurl May 2016 #29

Aaa....no. peace13 May 2016 #33

I never said anything about a chair. auntpurl May 2016 #39

Bernie's message is about peace. peace13 May 2016 #70

You're right, there's no excuse for violence in politics ever. auntpurl May 2016 #74

I'm not sure anybody on the floor made death threats apnu May 2016 #62

Oh no, I don't think so either re: death threats. auntpurl May 2016 #66

+1 TY! apnu May 2016 #68

Amen, Prism. Amen. MaeScott May 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #15

I can only see 4 Amaril May 2016 #30

Throwing in TEN more AMENS. Can only see ten out of 44 replies. Hiraeth May 2016 #49

How about...people getting angry when their rights are stomped on? peace13 May 2016 #14

and we (Bernie people) are not the ones claiming "violence" dana_b May 2016 #50

It would be sad to be like them. peace13 May 2016 #56

And then I believe that they will be audacious dana_b May 2016 #100

Agree! peace13 May 2016 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #16

Thank you for your commitment . peace13 May 2016 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author anotherproletariat May 2016 #18

they need violence just like they need private prison contributions. reddread May 2016 #36

History shows that in the USA that the establishment can treat PufPuf23 May 2016 #38

I've commented on the "Psyops" too mindwalker_i May 2016 #41

Be careful about diminishing sexists chants and death threats. YouDig May 2016 #42

I don't believe you're posting sincerely Prism May 2016 #47

Because I take death threats and sexism seriously, I can't be sincere. Well done. YouDig May 2016 #48

No it's the passive aggressive smarmy snark that does it. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #82

Do you tell that to snarky Bernie supporters? YouDig May 2016 #83

I see passive aggressive smarmy snarkers as one giant group, they are the smarkers Bluenorthwest May 2016 #93

So that's a "no." YouDig May 2016 #95

Correct. closeupready May 2016 #51

Document everything felix_numinous May 2016 #44

Yes puffy socks May 2016 #53

You rolled your eyes while telling the truth Prism May 2016 #54

Every bit justified away by so many Sanders supporters puffy socks May 2016 #105

Drunk bullies... hadn't heard that one yet. demmiblue May 2016 #64

Wendell Pierce, is that you? Scootaloo May 2016 #104

As I stated in an earlier OP, the violence meme is being pushed FlatBaroque May 2016 #60

It also is designed to create the narrative that the D nominee... lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #61

Stop making sense Babel_17 May 2016 #99

Paul Ryan and company lick their chops. Actor May 2016 #101

Thanks for this, Prism. Anyone remember the primaries of 1980? countryjake May 2016 #106

LOL at some of the responses here! It's TOTALLY DIFFERENT because it's not MY protest! mhatrw May 2016 #107

Prism, do you remember how disruptive protest was great!!!! QC May 2016 #108