2016 Postmortem

d_legendary1

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43. The lesser of two evils didn't bring us change

Thu May 19, 2016, 02:12 PM

May 2016

People who wanted to improve their lives brought us change. Those people were beaten, arrested, and some died for the things we take for granted. To state that the lesser evils gave us all of this is spitting at the graves of those who have been through hell during their lifetime.

The lesser of two evils has chipped away at everything they fought for. We had a president who signed NAFTA and managed to move great paying jobs overseas. We have the ACA instead of a public option (which Obama promised to fight for but never delivered). We have Dodd-Frank which does jack with regard to regulating the banks (see how many fees a person accumulates if they don't have direct deposit on their accounts). The 40 hour work week has been replaced with contract to hire schemes.

We used to call the lesser of two evils the third way and we're sick of it. Its hard to believe that a Bernie Supporter would embrace this crap.

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Yes, voting for the lesser of two evils IS how we got here! That is absolutely correct! [View all] Actor May 2016 OP

I thought the American Revolution was how we got here. eom Merryland May 2016 #1

"Who wants less evil?" yallerdawg May 2016 #2

Who needs less evil when you can simply rebrand overt evil as "pragmatism"? Kelvin Mace May 2016 #32

Your argument no longer holds water, and here's why: ViseGrip May 2016 #3

When the "lessor of two evils" vetoes Congressional legislation... yallerdawg May 2016 #7

No, the status quo on trade, jobs, college, climate, healthcare, and Hillary. ViseGrip May 2016 #37

It's time to work for down ballot Democrats WhiteTara May 2016 #10

Hey, yes! The Kochs et ilk have been investing Hortensis May 2016 #42

As activists in the 70s we made a fatal WhiteTara May 2016 #47

Well THAT is a crock mikehiggins May 2016 #4

I don't think either one is evil (at least not like Cheney), but I characterize this as the Zen Democrat May 2016 #5

And yet you do have that choice ONLY, those two. Either one votes for one or they dont, and Actor May 2016 #8

And how we DON'T make progress is beleiving the "lesser of two evils" lie. baldguy May 2016 #6

For that we can thank Nadir for using that meme over WhiteTara May 2016 #11

No. Real Democrats brought us Social Security, Medicare, women's reproductive Zorra May 2016 #9

Quotes from the last century are not necessarily germane to today. randome May 2016 #15

We can't sit here and criticize the Republicans for not compromising Dem2 May 2016 #12

Let me tell you something nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #13

So give nuclear weapons to a known narcissist sociopath who will use them Actor May 2016 #17

So give fucking nuclear weapons to an outsider nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #18

My party? Actor May 2016 #19

Yes, I am one of those silly independents you will need in November. nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #26

I only care about one thing. One. Actor May 2016 #28

And if you do not get the dynamics why that threat, and it is a threat is going to fall on nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #39

You have been here since Brock o' Clock and are questioning why a member with 151K posts is here. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #38

If you're willing to open your mind a little I suggest you read "Listen, Liberal" by Thomas Frank. hobbit709 May 2016 #14

Open my mind? Actor May 2016 #16

Did you just discover him? Did you just discover liberal politics? Actor May 2016 #21

You've been here all of a month and you ask that? hobbit709 May 2016 #48

That isnt an answer. Either you are a seasoned political junkie and voter and Actor May 2016 #49

I know you weren't with me in Chicago in 68. hobbit709 May 2016 #50

NOBODY who even remembers that doesnt RACE to the polls on election day to vote Actor May 2016 #51

Who were you in your previous incarnation? hobbit709 May 2016 #52

Thanks for not debating what I just said, even you have to admit that it is true. Actor May 2016 #53

you don't want debate. You want total agreement with yourself . hobbit709 May 2016 #55

Exactly, I dont want to debate whether or not it is OK to let Trump become our president. Actor May 2016 #57

I don't want Trump to be president. That's why I'm not for Hillary. hobbit709 May 2016 #58

Welcome to our Democratic board.... Rollin eyes. seabeyond May 2016 #20

I am surprised so many people who say they are democrats are unable to understand Actor May 2016 #22

I agree, just not the way you mean. For example, the very stupid, lesser of two evils. seabeyond May 2016 #23

I am not sure I know what you mean. My point is there is a drastic Actor May 2016 #24

Ignore EVERYTHING I posted to you. seabeyond May 2016 #25

IT's all good. Obama is actually one of the most successful of all time. Actor May 2016 #27

I agree. What is interesting about Obama is he has done so much seabeyond May 2016 #29

Same team same team! :) jack_krass May 2016 #68

You lie Trajan May 2016 #30

No, I am a Bernie supporter and long time liberal. But many here are new to this Actor May 2016 #31

If you lied Trajan May 2016 #33

Again, your behavour should not be tolerated on a board of liberals, it embarrasses me Actor May 2016 #34

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Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #35

At any reasonable cost. agreed Actor May 2016 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #40

Compromise and pragmatism is the only path...i am afraid to burst beachbumbob May 2016 #41

The lesser of two evils didn't bring us change d_legendary1 May 2016 #43

They don't. nc4bo May 2016 #45

I kinda figured this person lived up to their name d_legendary1 May 2016 #46

Now that we have seen evil in Dick Cheney and Donald Trump, it should be enough. Thinkingabout May 2016 #54

Not sure we always know who is most evil. Civil Rights Act and Medicare enacted under Johnson. Hoyt May 2016 #56

It's how we got NAFTA, will likely be force-fed the TPP, start wars ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #59

I disagree HassleCat May 2016 #60

You disagree... Actor May 2016 #61

Huh? Do you have me confused with someone else? (eom) HassleCat May 2016 #70

That is a list of six piss-poor compromises. dchill May 2016 #62

This is a waste of time. Actor May 2016 #63

That's not what I said, Mr Brock. dchill May 2016 #64

Not Brock, and you pretty much said exactly that. Dont pretend to be a democratic socialist Actor May 2016 #65

Learn to read. dchill May 2016 #66

new strategy Hillary not as bad as the opposition jack_krass May 2016 #67

What are you doing on a liberal board? Actor May 2016 #69

But you have to admit. It is sad to be going into a general election and the choice is Vinca May 2016 #71