2016 Postmortem

Cheese Sandwich

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7. Because welfare reform was an attack on working class people and I wanted to bold that out.

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Hillary called people on welfare "deadbeats" [View all] Cheese Sandwich May 2016 OP

Well, she did. nt silvershadow May 2016 #1

They used that to sell "progressive liberalisation" of services to the deveoping countries Baobab May 2016 #8

some people on welfare are deadbeats. I know several of them nt msongs May 2016 #2

Deadbeats, welfare queens, people faking back injuries. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #5

But you will be OK with Trump as president? What planet is this? Actor May 2016 #31

Where did I say that? Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #35

. Loudestlib May 2016 #38

I dont know what you are implying but if you knew who I was and what I do Actor May 2016 #41

I'm not really human. Loudestlib May 2016 #44

The plaintive, wholly unverified cry of an anonymous internet poster with a dash of cali May 2016 #59

Forget me, look at what the WORLD is saying Actor May 2016 #60

Deflection. cali May 2016 #61

probably not they have no shame. They are implying you are employed by David Brock rbrnmw May 2016 #63

Democrats aren't supposed to attack poor people. Ken Burch May 2016 #6

I know. Let's export thousands of jobs and import millions of foreign workers. That will help poor Akicita May 2016 #33

That was the OLD Democratic Party. In the new, corporate-owned Democratic Party... Yurovsky May 2016 #64

nice ancedote DonCoquixote May 2016 #11

Stop believing the corporate media lies scscholar May 2016 #29

That's a pretty disgusting RW lie actually riderinthestorm May 2016 #66

Is there any reason you didn't boldface "Poverty overall is down" and "child poverty has dropped"? YouDig May 2016 #3

Because welfare reform was an attack on working class people and I wanted to bold that out. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #7

Aha, the actual fact that poverty and child poverty dropped while employment went up is YouDig May 2016 #9

poverty goes up and down. Welfare reform was a structural change, permanent. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #10

Not during the Clinton administration. Then it just went down. YouDig May 2016 #13

Well when Clinton was cutting welfare didn't he care that if the economy collapsed then people Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #14

His policies greatly reduced poverty. He couldn't forsee that Bush would wreck the economy after YouDig May 2016 #21

"couldn't forsee"? - The economy always goes up and down in cycles every few years. That's basic. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #23

You think that poverty went down for an entire decade in the 90s, and then YouDig May 2016 #27

The cycles always happen. That is extremely predictable. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #34

No, 10-years of decreasing and then 10 years increasing poverty is not predictable. YouDig May 2016 #36

PNTR was not passed until very late in the Clinton years. To be real it had a huge effect. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #40

That is true, but NAFTA wasn't. YouDig May 2016 #43

this is an extremely important point 0rganism May 2016 #55

Over the long run, the Clintons' welfare reform has NOT reduced poverty. reformist2 May 2016 #16

While he was in office, it greatly decreased, this is a statistical fact. YouDig May 2016 #24

It did, mostly because of the internet boom. Very unusual scenario. reformist2 May 2016 #32

because bernie supporters don't care about helping the poor evidently, only nitpicking words. MariaThinks May 2016 #30

I'm not going to get to worked up about this maxsolomon May 2016 #4

Oh, yes there are deadbeats! Me and a black mother in NC jwirr May 2016 #28

I didn't say that you were a deadbeat, nor the mother in NC. I doubt Clinton would either. maxsolomon May 2016 #54

If she did not say it why was she kicking us off welfare? It jwirr May 2016 #58

Because it's so much better to sell out your country for millions. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #12

I fail to see the issue here apnu May 2016 #15

It's because she called us deadbeats Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #19

Well context matters apnu May 2016 #25

Whatever. If you want to dance around it and try to justify it, go ahead. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #37

The welfare rolls were cut in half. Oh, yes, but in the welfare jwirr May 2016 #39

Ok, i hear you. apnu May 2016 #45

My point is that she did not in anyway accept that there jwirr May 2016 #47

The wording was poor yes apnu May 2016 #49

She called us "deadbeats" but meant it only in the good way Fumesucker May 2016 #50

You hate Reagan for "welfare queens" but jwirr can't similarly loathe Clinton for deadbeats? riderinthestorm May 2016 #68

Meh. This again? Nobody cared then. Nobody cares now ... NurseJackie May 2016 #17

People do care about it I think. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #22

Enjoy! NurseJackie May 2016 #26

Your rudeness doesn't cover for you. Octafish May 2016 #56

Not to worry. I doubt if Hillary will continue to insult deadbeats. nt oasis May 2016 #18

Spoken like the solid conservative she is ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #20

HRC's point of view is right wing Republican here. stillwaiting May 2016 #42

"she can do that! she's for all those deadbeats!" MisterP May 2016 #46

I had to seek public assistance for almost a year after I lost my job newrevolution May 2016 #48

Welcome to DU Fumesucker May 2016 #51

Working yourself into an early grave My Good Babushka May 2016 #52

yes you have it figured out Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #62

Ironically, the glorious leftist pre-DLC party to which many wish to return whatthehey May 2016 #53

"Deadbeats" is how the rich would prefer to see the poor as so... AZ Progressive May 2016 #57

Unfortunately some are deadbeats. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #65

That sounds like it came out of the mouth of one of the more hateful Republicans. Vinca May 2016 #67

Why is she so willing to bring in foreign workers on H1B visas, vintx May 2016 #69

Ugh. Karmadillo May 2016 #70