2016 Postmortem

Buzz cook

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240. Sweet Jezuz

Sat May 21, 2016, 05:12 AM

May 2016

Don't you folks get tired of dragging out that lie. Oh and kissing tweety's ass at the same time, I'm sure you'll make it a trifecta before too long.

In 2008 the demands that Clinton leave the race were louder and more insistent than anything Sanders is hearing. They were coming from Obama supporters and the main stream media.
And at that time Clinton was much closer to Obama than Sanders will ever be to Clinton.

In 1968 no one was asking Gene McCarty to drop out. No one was asking Bobbie Kennedy to drop out and not one of the minor candidates were asked to drop out either. The campaign ran until June and would have ended at the convention even if Kennedy had not been killed.

The point of Clinton's statement is plainly that the 68 contest went till June with no demands that anyone drop out.

But like any tribal group Sanders supporters want it to be about the assassination, because that helps make Clinton the "other" not a real human. Keep up the good work.

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Clinton fury with Sanders grows [View all] GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 OP

Well she has only herself to blame. Jester Messiah May 2016 #1

^^That^^ onecaliberal May 2016 #3

No way Demsrule86 May 2016 #11

+100. i'm really starting to think that. n/t. okieinpain May 2016 #25

Oh, ffs. Primary challengers are not spoilers. As far as character, Hillary has polled as merrily May 2016 #56

Thank you for pointing this out! Needs to be repeated over and over. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #237

You're welcome, but I am not sure pointing it out makes the least bit of difference. merrily May 2016 #245

The spoiler would be running as a third party candidate in the general election. jeff47 May 2016 #81

No.... seekthetruth May 2016 #94

Don't blame him timmymoff May 2016 #131

^^THIS^^ InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #238

And praise Nancy Reagan! Betty Karlson May 2016 #244

The real spoiler is the FBI pinebox May 2016 #136

^^this^^ panader0 May 2016 #142

+1,000,000!!! Her greed got her into this mess... Yurovsky May 2016 #155

it may be Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #281

Sorry not sorry for ruining your coronation. frylock May 2016 #171

Why are you blaming him? Fawke Em May 2016 #173

Heh. Hard to feel guilty, enit? Mike__M May 2016 #187

This story must be meant for rallying the echo chamber. RichVRichV May 2016 #194

This!!!! Silver_Witch May 2016 #228

It's called "blame the messenger"... too bad everyone can see through the fake outrage. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #239

What proposterous bullshit. I'm so sick and goddamn tired of hearing this crap. liberalnarb May 2016 #206

He is no longer running Demsrule86 May 2016 #273

It all depends on California. liberalnarb May 2016 #274

Given networks ceased exit polling .... Jackilope May 2016 #276

Hillary did not withdraw from the election until after the final primary. Silver_Witch May 2016 #227

I hope he does Demsrule86 May 2016 #272

Yep. HooptieWagon May 2016 #82

Exactly right. Hillary's behavior shows she is unfit for the office BlueStreak May 2016 #106

Yes the Gestapo tactics of de-certifying Bernie delegates is disgusting ... Yurovsky May 2016 #157

Not just disgusting and heavy handed -- but mainly just stoooooopid BlueStreak May 2016 #204

Agreed... She needs every Bernie vote she can get... Yurovsky May 2016 #210

It is the sickness of "political science" BlueStreak May 2016 #212

Yep 840high May 2016 #168

Agree - given the crap that her people and DWS have pulled Ferd Berfel May 2016 #251

Yes, you nailed it... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #267

The Nominee... onehandle May 2016 #2

Nope. bvf May 2016 #14

Is the the same person? Fritz Walter May 2016 #80

Short memory Armstead May 2016 #98

That was then... This is now Fritz Walter May 2016 #161

yup. I will be doing phone banking tomorrow for Hillary in California. No need to waste time with still_one May 2016 #114

"No need to waste time..." dchill May 2016 #181

And yet you post! Silver_Witch May 2016 #229

So agree. Not that I see most of it now Hortensis May 2016 #231

Do me a favor... yuiyoshida May 2016 #255

The Indictee... frylock May 2016 #172

+1 *snort* dchill May 2016 #182

LMFAO! JRLeft May 2016 #4

You bet your ass. pangaia May 2016 #5

I recommend your post. JRLeft May 2016 #15

+10 dchill May 2016 #183

Over? Maybe not. But there is some chubby lady warming up her vocal chords. tonyt53 May 2016 #6

Oh, no doubt Hillary will be doing some singing. frylock May 2016 #174

I don't hate anyone. cwydro May 2016 #7

The DNC is corrupt, plus she said Bernie isn't a Democrat she should unify the party herself. JRLeft May 2016 #12

Do you understand what ""welcome hatred" really means? pangaia May 2016 #23

As in Jesus on a cross jeepers May 2016 #188

+1 okieinpain May 2016 #27

Yeah, FDR was so wrong for living his life that way. jeff47 May 2016 #38

You do know that it was FDR who famously said that. grasswire May 2016 #40

Sanders has nothing at all in common with FDR. cwydro May 2016 #159

And how would you know that? pdsimdars May 2016 #163

FDR's second bill of rights include RichVRichV May 2016 #196

*crickets* vintx May 2016 #224

Bernie Sanders is the closest we've come to FDR senz May 2016 #216

;-) ReRe May 2016 #230

Take the blinders off passiveporcupine May 2016 #252

Twenty years from now, when historians are writing about the end of the Democratic Party... Ikonoklast May 2016 #164

how poetic Fairgo May 2016 #179

Got a link where she says that? Zorro May 2016 #185

"That's what they offered" Fumesucker May 2016 #205

Sooooo....she never said "I welcome their money"? Zorro May 2016 #209

No one is saying she said that passiveporcupine May 2016 #254

It was a joke arikara May 2016 #217

I hate some people Codeine May 2016 #54

+1 ! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #137

I only felt that way about JFK, but I was 6-8 at the time so I at least have an excuse for having kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #146

Back in 1960, I was still in thrall to my RW parents and was nominally "for" Surya Gayatri May 2016 #152

Had a rabidly Republican family too but I was a rebel. Hated Nixon but I did vote for Reagan. Yuk... kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #208

It's a cliche lifted from a Reddit post lifted from a movie or Orwell novel. It V for Vendetta and bettyellen May 2016 #64

Learn your Democratic Herstory. I an independent know more about it than you... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #71

Wow- you are stalking me now, and sending memes. This is what they call campaigning these days? bettyellen May 2016 #75

You posted in my OP and I'm the one doing the stalking.... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #85

I was replying to someone else, but thanks for the interest! And yeah I find the constant vacuous bettyellen May 2016 #91

FDR is the reason we had a middle class.... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #97

A middle class for men who lack melanin. Not for women, not for POC. And I get that does not bettyellen May 2016 #112

A middle class that was largely lacking before I guess incremental change is only good in the 1990's That Guy 888 May 2016 #134

Uh your revisionism is astounding. pinebox May 2016 #141

Hilarious how many people miss well-aimed irony swag May 2016 #170

Incremental change for thee, but not for me...... bettyellen May 2016 #190

The irony is that they're sort of forced to Hortensis May 2016 #236

A-friggin'-men! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #143

it's not that different than gamer gate bullshit at this point. bettyellen May 2016 #147

"Gamer gate bullshit", indeed. Exactly the same enraged swarm mentality. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #153

I think you can only see it from the outside. Guess that's why they call it blind rage. bettyellen May 2016 #156

Deaf to reason, blind to math... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #158

I wish you would make this an OP in GDP, in both Hill and 7wo7rees May 2016 #125

FDR's counterpart is HILLARY CLINTON, tho. Hortensis May 2016 #234

MOST Democrats know what it is, Bettyellen. grasswire May 2016 #76

Most Democrats know FDR was as flawed as any other politician. He did good for the white man though! bettyellen May 2016 #79

Which character did he play in V for Vendetta? (nt) jeff47 May 2016 #83

You did not know this IMPORTANT part of Democratic history. grasswire May 2016 #89

Just like many here- this is all tit for tat- small minded bullshit for you. SBS admitted same when bettyellen May 2016 #95

THE WOMAN HURT HIS FEELINGS?? grasswire May 2016 #101

Yes, he has made some very petty remarks, and then walked them back. He is too easily baited to bettyellen May 2016 #117

no hope grasswire May 2016 #122

I agree, so many here are blinded by hate. sad for them. bettyellen May 2016 #145

Wow. You are the living embodiment of identity politics. Which is the reason this party is dying. vintx May 2016 #225

I don't know...I guess I've heard of some black recipients of Social Security jonestonesusa May 2016 #282

Get a room, you two! kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #150

But what you do support is more seekthetruth May 2016 #107

So well said...agree 100%. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #139

So what policies of Clinton swung you over to her? The TPP, the fracking, the pipeline, the wars? pdsimdars May 2016 #162

+1. Trump wouldn't allow hesitation, or erase doubt. Hortensis May 2016 #232

Based on what I've seen here from Hill camp passiveporcupine May 2016 #250

Was that just an admission that Clinton and Co. are unable to multitask? notadmblnd May 2016 #8

Or can't take the heat? Or are presumptuous? BillZBubb May 2016 #55

Certainly not a good thing if you want to run the country. pdsimdars May 2016 #165

Hillary wants Bernie to unify the party even though she said he's not a real democrat. JRLeft May 2016 #9

Great point. bvf May 2016 #17

If he told the party they're on their own I would be weak. JRLeft May 2016 #43

That's the way abusive relationships work, not normal people. pdsimdars May 2016 #166

Bernie will endorse Hillary before the convention redstateblues May 2016 #18

I posted a thread saying that. Keep trying. JRLeft May 2016 #22

So what? jeff47 May 2016 #36

Yeah, I agree. Sanders supporters are not backing Sanders....... socialist_n_TN May 2016 #70

It's really sad how they don't seem to be able to grasp that. nt vintx May 2016 #226

I recommend YOUR post. pangaia May 2016 #24

Hillary's message changes with the circumstances. BillZBubb May 2016 #59

Right, all of sudden he's Democrat. Shocking! Not JRLeft May 2016 #65

Exactly "Yo! Irrelevant loser infiltrator! It's the job of your gullible fanboys to unify my party!" lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #69

It's obviously Sanders's fault bvf May 2016 #10

Not really all that figurative. frylock May 2016 #175

They completely fail to grasp what has happened here. Third Way is done. yourpaljoey May 2016 #13

What has happened here is that Bernie lost redstateblues May 2016 #20

No. He has not lost, and he is not having a hard time dealing with anything. pangaia May 2016 #28

He's lost. Time for you and him to wrap your brains around the math. brush May 2016 #102

I welcome the insult. pangaia May 2016 #108

Reality is now an insult? brush May 2016 #124

Keep repeating what Bernie said "We have a path to the nomination" over and over redstateblues May 2016 #103

Bernie is not creating false hope to keep the money rolling in. pangaia May 2016 #113

In hisrorical perspective . ... . pdsimdars May 2016 #167

This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #16

Exactly, and THAT is what "they" really hate him for. pangaia May 2016 #30

Agree CountAllVotes May 2016 #90

Guess she shouldn't have cheated her way to the "top." GreenPartyVoter May 2016 #19

she is ahead of Bernie by 3,000,000 votes redstateblues May 2016 #26

In the primary. This OP is talking about the general election. jeff47 May 2016 #32

The Rs would only have to loop Video of Bernie promising to raise taxes redstateblues May 2016 #44

And the R's will only have to loop the video of Clinton lying for 15 minutes. jeff47 May 2016 #48

Sorry. Running on raising taxes on the middle class is a loser. Political suicide redstateblues May 2016 #84

Hrm...if only there was other things to run on jeff47 May 2016 #87

I'm sure the Repugs will include that in their attack ad redstateblues May 2016 #110

You mean like all the candidates who lost in 2014, 2012, 2010, 2008.... jeff47 May 2016 #120

Woah! October surprises about the Clinton Foundation? Divernan May 2016 #119

You don't need to worry about finding something that's true. jeff47 May 2016 #129

Uh oh. n/t bvf May 2016 #189

From what I understand, the FBI investigation has... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #268

CF gifts $2 Mil. to company of Bill's Energizer "friend" Divernan May 2016 #269

Bernie is winning this. pangaia May 2016 #35

I don't believe those numbers anymore. Mostly lies, I would bet. reformist2 May 2016 #154

That might've been a thought, yes. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #109

The complete lack of remorse is disturbing. nt Zorra May 2016 #132

I am getting so disgusted at the Nixonian behavior of the HRC camp that I'm on the verge Larkspur May 2016 #21

The sense of entitlement of the losing side is amazing redstateblues May 2016 #37

I don't understand this "entitlement" meme. panader0 May 2016 #148

HRC contributes to her own poor public image Larkspur May 2016 #271

Huh...maybe a strategy of "you are all racist, sexist, deluded idiots" was not the best plan jeff47 May 2016 #29

this quote sums the whole deal up for me. okieinpain May 2016 #31

When you sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind. DookDook May 2016 #33

get her message out? Merryland May 2016 #53

"I'm not a Republican" DookDook May 2016 #88

don't forget labelling young women Bernie supporters as "boy crazy" WolverineDG May 2016 #128

She should run a less sleazy campaign next time. Vattel May 2016 #34

An honest question for Bernie supporters: CrowCityDem May 2016 #39

and why should it be walked back? grasswire May 2016 #47

Why? Because Bernie himself says he'll do "everything in my power" to stop Trump. CrowCityDem May 2016 #67

he's doing exactly that right now. grasswire May 2016 #72

She can't AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #50

This is a tricky one.... JPnoodleman May 2016 #74

First, I would recommend NOT doing what they did in Nevada. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #77

That's expecting him to lie about what we all know is true, Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #126

I've said that the DNC handed the election to Clinton on a platter for a lot longer than a month. That Guy 888 May 2016 #135

Its not up to Bernie to do her job for her IF she gets nominated. arikara May 2016 #218

So why was unity Clinton's job when she lost, and when she won? Sexism? CrowCityDem May 2016 #246

. mmonk May 2016 #41

haters gonna hate AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #42

It's her own fault arikara May 2016 #45

Who gives a flying fuck if Hillary throws a tantrum ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #46

yeah, she's back to the victim status grasswire May 2016 #49

Never left her apparently. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #51

Yeah this DID (Damsel in Distress) gets old trudyco May 2016 #62

she can't even debate in (Latino-heavy) CA MisterP May 2016 #149

How dare he interrupt the coronation! BillZBubb May 2016 #52

They are clueless as always BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #57

Ah, poor Queen Hilary... TheProgressive May 2016 #58

She is solely responsible for any alienation. CharlotteVale May 2016 #60

"We welcome their hatred." WTF? What a misguided bit of unoriginal DRAMA. Go hate elsewhere. bettyellen May 2016 #61

Um, honey, FDR said that quote... GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #63

He lifted the white man out of poverty leaving everyone else behind, pulled us into the biggest war bettyellen May 2016 #73

deflection nt grasswire May 2016 #93

FDR? You might as well accept, he was not perfect either. None are. bettyellen May 2016 #99

He was never investigated by the FBI. nt grasswire May 2016 #104

that's about all that one has... Raster May 2016 #130

So WWII was something we should have stayed out of? Rex May 2016 #191

Nope, but I think SBS would disapprove of getting involved if it happened today. Absolutely I do. bettyellen May 2016 #200

Okay I get ya now, thanks. Rex May 2016 #201

It's amazing that people would so willingly flaunt their ignorance. frylock May 2016 #178

so now FDR is a B movie/Orwell novel? grasswire May 2016 #68

I don't even understand the Orwell reference. frylock May 2016 #184

Its about time the DNC had to reckon with the Left. JPnoodleman May 2016 #66

Sanders has lost and the fury is coming from more than Hillary.. beachbumbob May 2016 #78

"We all know that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California" Fumesucker May 2016 #235

Sweet Jezuz Buzz cook May 2016 #240

Interesting that I belong to a "tribal group" and you do not Fumesucker May 2016 #242

Trifecta, I win. nt Buzz cook May 2016 #248

''Clinton fury with Sanders grows'' Shadowflash May 2016 #86

everybody duck! nt grasswire May 2016 #96

Everybody run! Maedhros May 2016 #121

Not sure I want hatred from them.... seekthetruth May 2016 #92

What Sanders is doing is NOTHING compared to what the GOP and Trump are going to do. hollowdweller May 2016 #100

yeah grasswire May 2016 #127

Yep, and this is me when that happens.. frylock May 2016 #186

Seethe away! You bought it. 7wo7rees May 2016 #105

They should change that from MuseRider May 2016 #111

Bernie has done nothing to alienate me from LibDemAlways May 2016 #115

Putting NAFTA Willie in charge of US Trade is remarkably tone-deaf. More "Dem" Job Killing... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #116

Her continued nastiness is alienating many of us.. HughLefty1 May 2016 #118

Well isn't that too SheilaT May 2016 #123

Or, as Obama put it to Romney . . . "Proceed." pdsimdars May 2016 #169

here is something from one of the 'new' Democrats (apparently) downthread: islandmkl May 2016 #133

no this is NOT the "worst-case scenario"... yet 0rganism May 2016 #138

Bernie didn't alienate us from her Third Doctor May 2016 #140

It does seem like a worst case scenario for the Hillary camp. KPN May 2016 #144

The MSM is foaming at the mouth nest May 2016 #151

Not that I've heard Buzz cook May 2016 #241

Let them short out felix_numinous May 2016 #160

Aww poor Hillary........that bad Bernie...let's see your transcripts and your tax havens bkkyosemite May 2016 #176

Clinton doesn't need supporters Aerows May 2016 #177

It's tough for her to keep lying when her primary opponent insists on truth-telling. AtomicKitten May 2016 #180

Fuck her fury. It's the sense of challenged entitlement. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #192

"I will be the nominee for my Party, Chris,"...There's No Way I Won't Be! KoKo May 2016 #249

We are behaving like Republicans. nruthie May 2016 #193

I would respectfully disagree. DookDook May 2016 #197

Really? If they toed the party line Jeb Bush would be their nominee and immigration reform Akicita May 2016 #219

Sanders having lost leaves him furious. Difference being he is reactive and explosive and Clinton seabeyond May 2016 #195

Presidential, just like Nixon & Bush TheSarcastinator May 2016 #199

What a nasty post. seabeyond May 2016 #203

Yes, yours was...nt tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #270

Hillarians Continue Their Entitled Temper Tantrum TheSarcastinator May 2016 #198

Bite me, Hillary AZ Progressive May 2016 #202

This is disgusting. barrow-wight May 2016 #207

He isn't scorching the earth Trajan May 2016 #211

Clearly that's your narrative. barrow-wight May 2016 #214

Yeah, Brock and DWS and Rahm Emmanuel will dig into their rolodexes full of "leftist democrats" Warren DeMontague May 2016 #256

Time will tell, won't it? barrow-wight May 2016 #257

I'm sure he's terrified. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #258

I personally hope he stays in the Senate. barrow-wight May 2016 #259

Oh i am sure. Especially the next time we have a tie and by caucusing with us Warren DeMontague May 2016 #260

What choice does he have? Voting with Republicans? barrow-wight May 2016 #261

The man is 74. He's up again in what, '18? And if reelected, he's 82 when he has to face the VT Warren DeMontague May 2016 #263

We shall see. barrow-wight May 2016 #264

Yeah, maybe he'll lose his primary. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #265

Into every life a little rain must fall, I guess. barrow-wight May 2016 #266

The more arrogant HRC, DWS and her supporters become, the more I support Bernie KauaiK May 2016 #213

Thank you. My feelings precisely. And writing him in is what I've decided to do . snowy owl May 2016 #222

To the reporter who wrote that piece nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #215

Well, too bad. I'll remind them that this is "part of the process". :P southerncrone May 2016 #220

She did same with Obama. What doesn't she get about that? Is the Presidential material? snowy owl May 2016 #221

Agreed, she refused to bow out and claimed some nasty crap about assassination, hence the reason for akbacchus_BC May 2016 #223

LOL @ "worst case scenario." She's winning. nt ucrdem May 2016 #233

"It's my turn I want it I want it I want it!!!! Whaaaaaaaaah!" -- HRC, 2016. eom Betty Karlson May 2016 #243

Anytime ........ anywhere. polly7 May 2016 #247

I've said many times I believe Clinton a weak candidate. PatrickforO May 2016 #253

I have plenty of ire to direct Hillary Clinton's way. Aerows May 2016 #262

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