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I am sincerely asking what would be said to Super Delegates [View all] rbrnmw May 2016 OP

Just reverse the 15th Amendment, the 19th Amendment , the Voting rights Act, and be done with the... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #1

That pretty much says it. barrow-wight May 2016 #8

Nominating Hillary, and her infinite scandals, elects Trump. Sanders defeats Trump in every poll w4rma May 2016 #2

Would you please jehop61 May 2016 #36

While we wait for that answer SheenaR May 2016 #98

Sanders would lose in a landslide Demsrule86 May 2016 #107

Begging the party 'elite' to overturn the will of the people makes Sanders look pathetic. CrowCityDem May 2016 #3

This is, precisely, the type of situation that Superdelegates were officially made for. w4rma May 2016 #5

Nothing is more anti-democratic than the caucus process but he seems to have no problem with them. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #7

No. Superdelegates and closed elections, especially when voters have their registrations changed, w4rma May 2016 #9

Funny you bring that up. I called for the suspension of Super Delegates just today DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #14

So far, it's Hillary's delegates who have voted against ridding ourselves of the superdelegate w4rma May 2016 #21

The only role I can see for them is if you had an exceedingly close race DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #26

In other words, the only role you would have for them is to overturn the decisions of caucus states. w4rma May 2016 #30

Remember we started our t�te-�-t�te with me emphatically stating caucuses are inherently.... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #44

Did Sanders not know of the super delegates when he asked to join the party? brush May 2016 #78

You mean, did half of the Democratic general election voters "know" about the authoritarian rules? w4rma May 2016 #91

Nice try, but the super delegate system pre-dates the Clintons by quite a few years brush May 2016 #96

I'm sure you'll support the Bernie delegates in working to remove the anti-democratic system, then? w4rma May 2016 #97

If you're talking about after the primaries, the conventions and election, sure. Sit down and . . . brush May 2016 #101

The point was that you just said everything is undemocratic, except what benefits Bernie. CrowCityDem May 2016 #15

Election fraud, voter suppression, rules meant to disenfranchise "certain people" and superdelegates w4rma May 2016 #22

So are caucuses, and leading off with overly white, distorting, states. CrowCityDem May 2016 #59

Alaska is the least white state in the nation. Washington has a very large Hispanic population. w4rma May 2016 #84

Two separate issues. Caucuses suck. IA and NH are distortions of whiteness. CrowCityDem May 2016 #85

New Hampshire is a primary. The Iowa caucus was a virtual tie. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #89

That's a system. If you don't like it, start your own party KingFlorez May 2016 #19

Nah. How about the limousine liberals go back to their own Republican Party, instead? (nt) w4rma May 2016 #24

I am sure the approximately 80% of African Americans and 67% of Latinos who voted for Hillary DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #48

Clinton-style centrist economics rests on a surprisingly shaky foundation w4rma May 2016 #52

Clinton supporters would not vote for Sanders KingFlorez May 2016 #13

Actually, polls suggest that you're probably lying, KingFlorez. w4rma May 2016 #17

You are a real undemocratic trip KingFlorez May 2016 #23

In your reality bubble things happen that aren't based on reality, KingFlorez. w4rma May 2016 #25

Those hypothetical polls would be out the window when Clinton supporters sat out the election KingFlorez May 2016 #29

You only speak for yourself, KingFlorez. Don't try to speak for anybody else. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #33

I'm pretty sure millions of other voters are opposed to backroom deals to overturn their votes KingFlorez May 2016 #35

You would be fine with a Trump presidency, as long as you stop the progressive from winning. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #38

Being a progressive doesn't give you the right to be a cheat and a fraud KingFlorez May 2016 #40

I just watched Hillary steal Nevada, so I already know that she is an election thief. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #51

She won the caucus in February KingFlorez May 2016 #55

Irregardless of the coin flips in February, you feel that stealing Nevada is justified. I see. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #63

Nothing was stolen KingFlorez May 2016 #67

Do I believe your lying words, or my own eyes that watched the videos of it being stolen. w4rma May 2016 #73

Your put a lot faith in polls which all experts agree are essentially meaningless this far out. DCBob May 2016 #32

Using the word "all" in that sentence makes your sentence a lie. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #39

Please provide a link to any legitimate polling expert that disputes my claim.. DCBob May 2016 #42

Election Poll Accuracy Over Time w4rma May 2016 #46

Nope.. dont see anything there. DCBob May 2016 #47

These polling experts say that 6 months out, elections can be predicted with a 7.48% accuracy. w4rma May 2016 #50

Huh?? 7.48% accuracy? DCBob May 2016 #58

'Margin of error' is the correct term. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #62

That still doesn't make sense. DCBob May 2016 #66

The likelihood of a sample result being close to the number from a whole population query. w4rma May 2016 #71

This analysis doesn't take into account the conflicting effect of nominees at different stages. DCBob May 2016 #86

Fact: closed primaries do not disenfranchise when anyone is freely allowed to join the party. CrowCityDem May 2016 #20

In New York, you had to join the Democratic Party before the election, last year, to vote in this w4rma May 2016 #28

So how did they know the Bernie voters to purge? CrowCityDem May 2016 #60

The shared Democratic voter database was open to hacking back in December. w4rma May 2016 #64

You're implying the state parties illegally hacked information. CrowCityDem May 2016 #69

There were previous time periods where the system was completely unprotected, also. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #70

It's a wild conspiracy with no proof. CrowCityDem May 2016 #81

There is plenty of proof that the system was completely unprotected. w4rma May 2016 #83

There's no proof anyone who could change registrations hacked it. CrowCityDem May 2016 #87

Disenfranchise my arse. If you mean Independents, apcalc May 2016 #37

In New York, you must be affiliated as a Democrat by October 9, 2015. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #43

Fine, then do it. My primary was 4/26. I apcalc May 2016 #61

The superdelegates are expected to use their independent judgment onenote May 2016 #53

Actually, in Arizona the areas that had voting problems (Maricopa County) went heavily for Clinton. StevieM May 2016 #56

ONLY in the mail in vote. The election day vote was heavily for Sanders. w4rma May 2016 #74

There was no voter suppression. Sanders just lost fair and square. StevieM May 2016 #76

Arizona�s Primary Voting Was Such A Mess That DOJ Is Opening An Investigation w4rma May 2016 #90

That has nothing to do with whether there was voter suppression to benefit Hillary Clinton. StevieM May 2016 #94

The only reason Clinton "won" Arizona is because she won the pre-election day votes. w4rma May 2016 #95

If you are determined to believe that then there is nothing I can do about it. StevieM May 2016 #99

Why is the Department of Justice investigating Arizona for voter suppression, then? (nt) w4rma May 2016 #100

Because Arizona is a mess. But that has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. StevieM May 2016 #102

You mean early voting ? Demsrule86 May 2016 #109

so you think we should choose or nominee by poll Demsrule86 May 2016 #110

I would like to add that the opposite is true Demsrule86 May 2016 #111

"Begging the party elite"? MrMickeysMom May 2016 #18

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #103

Basically it would be an argument about early polling numbers KingFlorez May 2016 #4

Tell them that the "Deep South" doesn't count, for some reason. Nye Bevan May 2016 #6

Tell them homogeneous and sparsely populated states count more than heterogeneous... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #11

Don't forget the birdie multiplier ... n/t SFnomad May 2016 #12

Since Camp Clinton has pushed them since day 1 to discourage Bernie voters you are damn right Skwmom May 2016 #10

I do understand that feeling I held some resentments against her myself rbrnmw May 2016 #68

No one 'discouraged" Sanders voters they couldn't beat the "southern states" votes cause Weaver and uponit7771 May 2016 #104

How about we start with what not to say to Superdelegates? barrow-wight May 2016 #16

Screaming fuck you and fuck her while you are walking out of a rally Iliyah May 2016 #27

Sanders charm offensive: ucrdem May 2016 #31

Indiscriminate killing of children in foreign countries, supporting sweatshops... Fairgo May 2016 #82

I can see a role for Superdelegates rbrnmw May 2016 #34

This.... workinclasszero May 2016 #41

My son thinks this video is funny and he supports Bernie rbrnmw May 2016 #45

If you want a real answer Aerows May 2016 #49

I was being sincere no reason to be hostile rbrnmw May 2016 #54

Didn't mean to snap at you Aerows May 2016 #57

it's all good sorry you are having a rough one rbrnmw May 2016 #65

All I have heard him say about it is VERY reasonable and common sense pdsimdars May 2016 #72

I think that argument is reasonable and it should be considered. rbrnmw May 2016 #75

Perhaps... Mike Nelson May 2016 #77

"New democrats." hellofromreddit May 2016 #79

Also... Mike Nelson May 2016 #80

The pitch isn't for all supers, but only those representing people who supported morningfog May 2016 #88

Very common sense and rational pdsimdars May 2016 #92

It's not a good idea Turin_C3PO May 2016 #93

"anti-democracy" baiting aside... tom-servo May 2016 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #106

Well, so far it has all been insults and threats. MineralMan May 2016 #108

Now that's really strange rbrnmw May 2016 #112

The basic argument is "Sanders polls much better than Clinton against Trump" Recursion May 2016 #113

Simply put: Sander's issues are Democratic issues. apnu May 2016 #114