2016 Postmortem

Trust Buster

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5. Both the RNC and DNC didn't understand the full implications of Citizens United.

Sun May 22, 2016, 08:29 PM

May 2016

Citizens United makes an Independent run all but impossible. They both should have anticipated Trojan horse candidates entering the two parties to hitch a ride. In the future the DNC should require that a candidate be a registered Democrat for a minimum length of time before they have access to their infrastructure.

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Message to DNC; Next time protect the brand and let independents run [View all] CK_John May 2016 OP

This is a much better result for HRC than if Bernie had run third party; aikoaiko May 2016 #1

Nah! If he had run 3rd party we'd hear about him as much as we do Jill Stein brush May 2016 #2

Maybe less than running as a Democrat, but more than Jill. We will never know. aikoaiko May 2016 #13

2020 is hardly the issue. He knew he couldn't get traction as an independent for 2016 . . . brush May 2016 #15

Because its really not about party -- its about the agenda and the goals. aikoaiko May 2016 #16

If it was about agenda and goals, why did he join the party then? brush May 2016 #17

Because at least 45% of the Democratic primary voters agree with him. aikoaiko May 2016 #23

same old tired, baseless argument...different thread. nt Land of Enchantment May 2016 #52

Thanks for the well reasoned and thoughtful response. It was invaluable. brush May 2016 #55

No sweat. Your replies today are like a vine--same thing over and over. Land of Enchantment May 2016 #58

Another nothing contribution. brush May 2016 #63

Hmmm.......guess a whiner's gotta whine. Here's some cheddar to make it better. nt nc4bo May 2016 #3

Please please DNC protect our brand of mediocrity. timmymoff May 2016 #4

Both the RNC and DNC didn't understand the full implications of Citizens United. Trust Buster May 2016 #5

It should be obvious, when it's called the Democratic Party, that means its for Democrats. procon May 2016 #6

Good plan! Zero votes from Independants then. HooptieWagon May 2016 #61

Why register as an Independant and then complain because no one brings you candy? procon May 2016 #72

Yes!! Make the Democratic Party less democratic!! Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #7

I think they've already introduced the loyalty oaths Art_from_Ark May 2016 #57

Maybe all candidates should take a test to see if they are really Dems. peace13 May 2016 #8

Integrity would make a great litmus test Art_from_Ark May 2016 #59

Your hate of Bernie is long-standing. cali May 2016 #9

I was going to respond but I truly believe you are more than one person. CK_John May 2016 #14

Huh? First of all, you did respond. And if you're calling me cali May 2016 #24

protect the brand- dont put someone who allies herself with sheldon adleson to send granny to prison Warren DeMontague May 2016 #10

Agreed. ancianita May 2016 #44

Take it to the next logical step... Contrary1 May 2016 #11

Exactly!! And of course if the independents were breaking for her, this wouldn't even jillan May 2016 #22

bernie sold out his own values for democratic party $$ and now he thinks hillary = evil? epic loser msongs May 2016 #12

Who are you calling an OCD creep? Bernie? jillan May 2016 #18

CK John, your message tells me all I need to know about you. passiveporcupine May 2016 #19

The Democratic "brand" has been going downhill since the '70s dflprincess May 2016 #20

Keeping out Bernie Demsrule86 May 2016 #27

Calling yourself a liberal doesn't make it so. Broward May 2016 #29

Spare me your condesceding bullshite Demsrule86 May 2016 #34

that's a long rant for someone who can claims they Exilednight May 2016 #39

I am tired of BSSER's who have never done anything Demsrule86 May 2016 #45

A self-professed liberal that's backing Hillary I presume. Broward May 2016 #41

You know what a major diconnect is Demsrule86 May 2016 #43

Hillary wants to continue the income inequality gap's expansion. JRLeft May 2016 #40

So start your own party Demsrule86 May 2016 #36

Why do you, or Bernie for that matter, want to be part of a party you despise? MoonRiver May 2016 #46

After 44 years of being active in the party, I have begun to ask myself that question dflprincess May 2016 #47

I AM in the party whose principles I actually agree with! MoonRiver May 2016 #86

That would be for the best KingFlorez May 2016 #21

The New Deal is the Democratic Brand. Protect It First Bad Thoughts May 2016 #25

The new deal rjsquirrel May 2016 #31

Did you ever see the letters from family members to Roosevelt during the depression Demsrule86 May 2016 #37

Only if you consider it to be static Bad Thoughts May 2016 #42

The Vichy Democrats would prefer to forget the New Deal dflprincess May 2016 #50

There are living voters who voted for FDR dflprincess May 2016 #48

Ok my math is a bit off rjsquirrel May 2016 #71

"The socialist folks here are nostalgic for an America that really only existed islandmkl May 2016 #80

I'm not saying the right was right all along rjsquirrel May 2016 #81

i fail to see how the current power structure of the Democratic Party is making inroads into solving islandmkl May 2016 #83

If you don't see it you're not looking rjsquirrel May 2016 #84

"if you were a person of color, you'd agree that this is in fact the best time in American history." islandmkl May 2016 #85

We will have to disagree rjsquirrel May 2016 #90

While more should have been done more the New Deal was not a complete bust for African Americans dflprincess May 2016 #89

Maybe like a century ago Algernon Moncrieff May 2016 #77

Absolutely Demsrule86 May 2016 #26

The democratic party is not a "brand" My Good Babushka May 2016 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #30

If the "OCD creep" had run as a third party candidate, we'd be inaugurating Donald Trump. Vinca May 2016 #32

Make damn sure their check marks are in the right place! cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #33

I wonder how long you'll last here? pinebox May 2016 #35

That was certainly a below-the-belt remark Art_from_Ark May 2016 #62

How dare he challenge DWS on her record of success... Orsino May 2016 #38

It's slightly better than Hillarys Sec of State record. HooptieWagon May 2016 #64

Yep. I think independents need their own party fun n serious May 2016 #49

Were crossing that bridge, when lessons are learned... dubyadiprecession May 2016 #51

You want to protect the brand that has lost both houses to the Republicans? Mnpaul May 2016 #53

Yes. Apparently they think the Dem Party should downsize further. HooptieWagon May 2016 #65

Minimize the number of voters at every chance Mnpaul May 2016 #68

They're working hard at it. HooptieWagon May 2016 #73

I think it is going to work out the best for everyone in the end. BootinUp May 2016 #54

Why stop there? Kall May 2016 #56

A potential candidate should have to have been a member for some amount of time. tarheelsunc May 2016 #60

Carpetbaggers? Art_from_Ark May 2016 #67

So you would rather have seen Sanders run with the Green Party, who would love to have him? Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #66

Wow what a sad commentary on this country. Political parties = brands. bjo59 May 2016 #69

Yup, it's becoming the political version of Coke versus Pepsi, Art_from_Ark May 2016 #70

Sad, indeed. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #88

CK_John�This isn�t the Democratic Party. They are Diet Republicans. CobaltBlue May 2016 #74

The DNC may not be that suicidal. We'll see. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #75

Another 'independents are not needed in this election' post, please go away ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #76

What's nice about a post like this is... Ned_Devine May 2016 #78

Perhaps we should just take your advice and allow him to run as an Independent now! highprincipleswork May 2016 #79

referring to Bernie as 'some old OCD creep' isn't, won't be, probably shouldn't be islandmkl May 2016 #82

Supporting DWS' primary challenger is just ONE of Bernie's wonderful actions. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #87