2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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36. I don't like any form of that word West used. West wanted access and power, and he got angry

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Mon May 23, 2016, 09:35 PM

May 2016

when Obama gave him neither. Typical.

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Bill Cosby, Bill Clinton and Cornel West walk into a bar [View all] reddread May 2016 OP

he has been critical of Obama. grasswire May 2016 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author wendylaroux May 2016 #2

not allowed by some. nt grasswire May 2016 #3

Sort of like being critical of Bernie Sanders..... Historic NY May 2016 #152

He's not well liked by many in the AA community. There was a huge debate here . . . brush May 2016 #178

being suddenly critical because he didn't get extra inaugural ball tickets isn't democratic.... bettyellen May 2016 #4

probably not about tickets,I;m just sayin. nt wendylaroux May 2016 #7

and everyone else who never really loved Obama's Republican sourced reforms reddread May 2016 #9

Waaaaaaa! AgingAmerican May 2016 #17

no racial slur too disgusting to defend, eh? can't wait for sensible moderation to bust this shit up bettyellen May 2016 #20

The term he used isn't a slur AgingAmerican May 2016 #23

Nig*arized is most certainly a slur. Obama supporters revile people because they are black? Do you bettyellen May 2016 #29

Cornell was quite clear in what he said AgingAmerican May 2016 #31

He used that word, despite you not quoting him accurately. And it is a goddamned slur. bettyellen May 2016 #33

You don't like the meaning AgingAmerican May 2016 #34

I don't like any form of that word West used. West wanted access and power, and he got angry bettyellen May 2016 #36

He was quite specific in what he meant AgingAmerican May 2016 #38

You pretend it is not a racial slur, and we both know better. It's disgusting. bettyellen May 2016 #39

Don't you know that poster knows better about all thing racial? 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #122

And thinks it is just a coincidence when 5/6 men are hired. Funny they think everything ELSE is bettyellen May 2016 #127

Well ... we really should move on to the really important issues. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #143

Really, have been told where my place is for all my life- and I still forget to stay there. My bad! bettyellen May 2016 #145

Now ... Go make me a damned sam'mich! And make it snappy! 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #147

It was a racial slur. He could have expressed it other ways, but choose not still_one May 2016 #193

So you have a problem with "angry black men" Lordquinton May 2016 #54

That is a repulsive stereotyped accusation - it's not any less racist because you're trying to hang bettyellen May 2016 #64

"Cornel who?"-Bernie supporter before his endorsement. zappaman May 2016 #98

Someone actually referenced a black show runner's interview to defend this shit..... bettyellen May 2016 #100

I can't tell if this is satire or not Lordquinton May 2016 #150

I said he was "angry at Obama" and so chose to slur him. That is not to say who or what West is bettyellen May 2016 #153

Except you didn't say "angry at Obama" Lordquinton May 2016 #174

"West wanted access and power, and he got angry when Obama gave him neither." Did not say bettyellen May 2016 #175

"Fakeassedprogressiverized" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #141

+1 bravenak May 2016 #151

How else to explain Americas- "niggerisation"? & West explained very well in his interviews. Sunlei May 2016 #93

Not excusing the use of the word to describe our first black president. You go ahead though. bettyellen May 2016 #94

Even Pres. O said,"it�s not just a matter of it not being polite to say �nigger� in public" Sunlei May 2016 #95

You're sure PBO was fine with being compared to racist murderer Zimmerman and "house negros"? bettyellen May 2016 #155

People have said much worse, he's used to it.For sure Mr. West lost his connection to free tickets. Sunlei May 2016 #157

Well now we are comparing what West said to hateful racists, so....... bettyellen May 2016 #158

West said Obama is "n**gerized" -- meaning "afraid and scared and intimidated" when dealing with pnwmom May 2016 #199

You're an absolute idiot if you don't think "niggerized" is a slur. brush May 2016 #44

WTF ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #118

Noun Android3.14 May 2016 #156

Uh ... VERB ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #161

State of being verbs Android3.14 May 2016 #165

Okay ... I'll email the comment in question to a PhDed grammarian 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #173

Deal. Android3.14 May 2016 #179

Still waiting Android3.14 May 2016 #189

I haven't received word back ... and, frankly, had forgotten about it ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #190

The suffix West used was "-ization" Android3.14 May 2016 #191

I don't have to cheat ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #192

See post 93 Android3.14 May 2016 #195

hello darkness reddread May 2016 #24

This is a moderated site with community standards. Enforcement of which might upset you. bettyellen May 2016 #40

Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't just "criticiing" a Person of color. uponit7771 May 2016 #112

Cornel West is brilliant AgingAmerican May 2016 #114

Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't brilliant at all uponit7771 May 2016 #115

You are uneducated on this subject AgingAmerican May 2016 #117

Ad homs are an indicator of a weak position uponit7771 May 2016 #120

Here is a primer for you AgingAmerican May 2016 #121

Either form of any form of the word nigger isn't acceptable to progressives uponit7771 May 2016 #123

You are baffled AgingAmerican May 2016 #126

You're apologizing uponit7771 May 2016 #129

No one is baffled as there was plenty of context- as in PBO as a "global George Zimmerman" bettyellen May 2016 #159

This has to be the stupidest sub-thread of DU in days. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #131

amen, there are people actually defending Cornell West on this and even contextually West was uponit7771 May 2016 #133

I thought I had seen EVERYTHING on this site; but, "progressives" defending the use of the ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #146

RIGHT!! I've been saying for around 2 weeks the word "progressives" is starting to get a four letter uponit7771 May 2016 #166

Oops...bad alert. Atman May 2016 #142

Thx for this !! I knew they would try this crap, I'm thrown back at how many are defending West uponit7771 May 2016 #169

It is a Democratic Covention Demsrule86 May 2016 #11

Dr. West is right on. He is for the common man.Just like Bernie. wendylaroux May 2016 #14

What the hell has happened to our party that we have those that don't like criticism and rhett o rick May 2016 #43

right wingers cant help themselves reddread May 2016 #81

It's not the right wingers that bothers me. We could win w/o them. It's the turncoat rhett o rick May 2016 #84

that is who I was talking about. reddread May 2016 #86

Feral conservatives are one thing reddread May 2016 #88

Good way to put it. But like the bullies they are, the super-predator corporations would be nothing rhett o rick May 2016 #89

for imaginary crumbs reddread May 2016 #90

It's not allowed by someone who endorses Sanders. arcane1 May 2016 #101

huh,learn something new everyday around here. wendylaroux May 2016 #103

Calling Obama a "n***erized President" isn't allowed. Among other things. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #198

I think its unfortunate when skin color is a factor, but reddread May 2016 #5

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #6

so you favor Larry Summers reddread May 2016 #13

Did I say anything approaching that? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #18

if you back Obama to the point that criticism is anathema reddread May 2016 #22

I know you will find this hard to believe, and won't even consider the fact that ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #45

if we must narrow the focus, let us skip the personalities reddread May 2016 #52

Do you not see how it is you that has "narrowed the focus"? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #57

I claim no right to your input on a discussion board question. reddread May 2016 #58

Read what you post ... You most certain ARE claiming the "right" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #59

right about that reddread May 2016 #60

When I first signed into DU, I was shocked at the prevalence of Anti-Obama attacks, I was so ashamed Todays_Illusion May 2016 #47

He hates Obama and all Democrats. Demsrule86 May 2016 #8

Ive heard that word used reddread May 2016 #10

So funny Demsrule86 May 2016 #15

please, if you will just do me one favor reddread May 2016 #16

If a "messed up convention" is the alternative to bowing and scraping before the anointed queen, rhett o rick May 2016 #73

You headed to the convention to mess it up, Rick? zappaman May 2016 #154

There's a difference there, it's called "context" Tarc May 2016 #25

Someone made the same argument below, it appears if a black person said it, then no context is bettyellen May 2016 #71

defending the use of ni**er because rappers do it. THAT makes sense. to RWers. bettyellen May 2016 #30

Sorry BettyE ... I have to disagree a bit ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #46

You should listen to what Kenya Barris said on the issue recently on a Fresh Air broadcast. nt Bonobo May 2016 #61

Who is Kenya Barris ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #63

A black person they Googled, and will now pretend they heard of before. bettyellen May 2016 #66

Wow, no. nt Bonobo May 2016 #67

Google is a wonderful thing to create support from spots ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #69

I found the quotes from that Kenya guy- who created the show Blackish..... bettyellen May 2016 #70

LOL ... Spot on. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #72

Yeap... but ... but... the "southerns states"!!! uponit7771 May 2016 #97

Is Cornel West the punchline? JaneyVee May 2016 #12

He is, but the joke isn't very funny. TwilightZone May 2016 #68

Like other activist AAs, West was disappointed that Obama didn't do more for AAs. senz May 2016 #19

AAs like Cornel West and Tavis Smiley, yes. They were bummed not be chosen as inner circle, bettyellen May 2016 #35

Actually it is because he didn't get chosen to be in his inner circle and his ego was crushed. iandhr May 2016 #49

That bit you quoted is pretty much exactly when black folks started giving Corny the side eye. And Number23 May 2016 #74

Here we sort of agree ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #50

I agree that both West... potone May 2016 #91

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #92

There is no shame in disagreeing with someone's opinion. NCTraveler May 2016 #21

Some folks may find the N-Word a little anoying. stone space May 2016 #26

I've never seen that word here onecaliberal May 2016 #27

I have. (nt) stone space May 2016 #28

In what context? Lordquinton May 2016 #51

Dude. Seriously. Goblinmonger May 2016 #65

Dude. Seriously. Some folks do indeed find it annoying. stone space May 2016 #75

AGAIN, you make it sound like people were dropping the N-word Goblinmonger May 2016 #76

What I find more than annoying is all the apologia from "progressives". 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #162

One could quibble about the word "progressives" in some cases. stone space May 2016 #180

IBTL grossproffit May 2016 #32

What the hell is with all the hate-flinging around here, period. This horse was flogged a year ago! ancianita May 2016 #37

Damned right. He is a major voice in the prophetic tradition. He is a model of progressive ideas ancianita May 2016 #41

Well, he thinks himself a prophet. kwassa May 2016 #104

Others like black Christian churches? Academia? Whether you agree or not, ancianita May 2016 #144

His constuency is small . kwassa May 2016 #160

And, he might be/ have been able to make his cause ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #164

According to friends of mine in NOLA and Chicago, it took awhile for African Americans to warm ancianita May 2016 #171

Really? When was the last time Dr. West found favor in Black Christian churches? 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #163

You tell me, since you imply that you know and I got something to prove here. ancianita May 2016 #170

No ... I, simply, asked when was the last time Dr. West was embraced by ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #172

2013, 2015, 2015, 2010. You can just click the links and read the dates. I've seen him twice, ancianita May 2016 #176

Okay ... I've met him once, at a wine and cheese meet and greet ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #177

He's an academic, writer, social critic. They talk. The platform is talk. The Chief Exec and party ancianita May 2016 #182

"The First Niggerized Black President" TwilightZone May 2016 #42

America is a war criminal reddread May 2016 #53

So, you're ok with calling the POTUS the N word. TwilightZone May 2016 #55

you might polish your detective work reddread May 2016 #62

You might learn how to answer a question without deflecting so hard TwilightZone May 2016 #77

would you take no for an answer? reddread May 2016 #79

feel free to respond reddread May 2016 #83

do you see me posting that? reddread May 2016 #82

I don't know, seems like you have more defense on West calling Obama some form of nigger than uponit7771 May 2016 #119

+1, they'll swear up and down this shit wasn't here in a month or two uponit7771 May 2016 #110

Are you serious iandhr May 2016 #48

sharpton certainly saw his fall and rise reddread May 2016 #56

Him's was mean to Obama!!! Autumn May 2016 #78

Don't you know, POC can not insult other POC but, if they do, they must use PC language Hiraeth May 2016 #80

Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't just "insulting" a Person of color but it's not suprising uponit7771 May 2016 #107

Real progressivism frightens the Establishment. n/t Orsino May 2016 #85

and they will be clubbing us like baby seals reddread May 2016 #87

"real" progressivism isn't calling a PoC some form of nigger either but go ahead and trumpet the... uponit7771 May 2016 #108

You look like a fool for trumpeting Katt, while you attempt to convince everyone .99center May 2016 #194

Wtf does Williams have anything to do with ... this is stupid uponit7771 May 2016 #197

Calling Obama "niggerized" isn't just having an opinion and you know it uponit7771 May 2016 #96

the only thing I know for a fact reddread May 2016 #99

Red Herring, he calls Obama niggerized and mostly Sanders supporters trumpet him... uponit7771 May 2016 #102

if only I could trust you reddread May 2016 #105

Irrelevant, calling Obama some form of nigger or supporting that person isn't progressive at all uponit7771 May 2016 #106

I will fight for the right of anyone to say anything, as long as they arent lying. reddread May 2016 #109

Obama isn't any form of nigger, that is a damn lie so this post belies your position uponit7771 May 2016 #111

so adjectives and nouns give you trouble? reddread May 2016 #113

Nah, calling people of color some form of nigger does though uponit7771 May 2016 #116

i would rather hear it from a bigot's mouth reddread May 2016 #124

I would rather the bigot learn that calling a PoC some form of nigger isn't acceptable at all uponit7771 May 2016 #125

how many forms are there? reddread May 2016 #128

to call the a PoC in that context? none... how about that? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #130

"some form of" reddread May 2016 #132

any form of ... that better? syntax.. tsk tsk uponit7771 May 2016 #134

just how many are there? reddread May 2016 #135

None that are acceptable to progressives uponit7771 May 2016 #136

can I borrow your rule book? reddread May 2016 #137

Yes, Got to link inside uponit7771 May 2016 #138

Yes. It. Is. You can't accuse someone except by agreed upon context. This whole conversation ancianita May 2016 #196

He was still wrong !!! Obama had talked about white supremacy even before he got elected !!!! uponit7771 May 2016 #200

The whole laughable way that people here adhere to the narrow, Southern pejorative meaning ancianita May 2016 #202

West has been remarkably consistent in criticizing corporate-friendly politicians RufusTFirefly May 2016 #139

now that explains the hate. reddread May 2016 #140

You don't know why West and Obama have fueded in the past?! ITS OVER SEATING ARRANGEMENTS!! uponit7771 May 2016 #167

Wow! What a bowel-burst thread! I'll return to a civilized group:. The Gungeon. nt Eleanors38 May 2016 #148

He is a genius. And just as eccentric, but a real genius. Can't help loving him. Brilliant. pdsimdars May 2016 #149

REAL progressives don't think its brilliant to call anyone any form of the word nigger, thats stupid uponit7771 May 2016 #168

The only one I see using the N word is you. B Calm May 2016 #181

should we count? reddread May 2016 #184

Oh, it's just the usual hate-fest... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #183

Who is denying a black scholar their opinion? And what is the specific mechanism used to deny that o LanternWaste May 2016 #185

conservative Democrats who support Hillary Clinton reddread May 2016 #186

You consistently allege bullying and racism, but you provide zero evidence LanternWaste May 2016 #188

I just popped in here to see why firebrand80 May 2016 #187

Yes, he's allowed to have an opinion. RandySF May 2016 #201