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MineralMan

(151,287 posts)
113. The primaries will run their course, and I have not
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

suggested that they shouldn't. In the next three weeks, every primary, including the DC one on June 14, will be over. Everyone will have voted. When that time has passed, Hillary Clinton will have the majority of pledged delegates. That much is certain. So, I have complete confidence in that.

What Bernie Sanders does is up to him. I suggest, and have suggested, that he take a close look at the situation and do the thing that will help elect a Democrat as President. He knows what that thing is, even today. The remaining primaries are not going to alter that situation.

Finally, predictions about the General Election are premature. At this point, it's impossible to say how that will turn out, and polling is irrelevant, since the GE campaign is going to change poll results as people see what the campaign brings. The convention should not even consider that. They should nominate the person who has won the primary race, as measured by the pledged delegate count. Period.

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The supers will follow the pledged delegates. stone space May 2016 #1
Well, they always have done so. MineralMan May 2016 #7
Which years did two candidates proceed to the convention, neither having secured a total majority morningfog May 2016 #53
2008. Neither candidate had enough delegates without the super delegates MineralMan May 2016 #55
STRIIIIIIKE ONE! Hillary conceded before the convention. morningfog May 2016 #56
Ah, OK. Keep in mind that Bernie might do exactly the same MineralMan May 2016 #62
He might. We'll see. Point being there is no precedent for what could happen at this convention. morningfog May 2016 #72
Yes, we'll see. MineralMan May 2016 #73
You're not an umpire anigbrowl May 2016 #100
He made a claim which was wrong and then doubled down. morningfog May 2016 #112
"they always have done so." panader0 May 2016 #64
Al Franken is an individual. stone space May 2016 #97
But not the will of his own state voters. Not cool. panader0 May 2016 #98
And why is that not cool? anigbrowl May 2016 #101
Yep! They will create rules that change if they don't win. LiberalFighter May 2016 #106
Why does it matter what individual supers do? stone space May 2016 #103
He will vote for the candidate with a majority MineralMan May 2016 #99
Plus the fact Minnesota used a caucus system which doesn't encourage full participation. LiberalFighter May 2016 #108
Exactly. In 2020, too, Minnesota will have a primary election, MineralMan May 2016 #114
If it was clear from the start, why didn't they wait until the pledged delegates were in to endorse? Matt_in_STL May 2016 #33
We aren't talking about endorsements, here. stone space May 2016 #46
Don't Muddy Things With Pesky Facts pmorlan1 May 2016 #57
Because they are not required to do that. MineralMan May 2016 #70
'Maybe someone can explain that for me'... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #2
Actually it is a very reasonable question to ask. tonyt53 May 2016 #3
No, it's not... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #6
So you're actually suggesting that the rules of the party be changed for Sanders brush May 2016 #34
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I'm not stuck on the super delegate system. If he wins, change it. brush May 2016 #43
pivot, pivot, pivot... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #44
Stating that super delegate system pre-dates both candidates is not saying I'm a proponent of it brush May 2016 #47
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Please stop repeating the nonsense that Sanders wins open primaries mythology May 2016 #78
... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #82
I actually am looking for an explanation. Do you have one? MineralMan May 2016 #10
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Chill with the troll accusations, dude. moriah May 2016 #60
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Mineral Man has been here long enough to deserve the respect of not attacking him... moriah May 2016 #59
respect... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #65
Okay, I'll make it a little more clear. moriah May 2016 #67
Ahh, perception... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #69
Well, if you can't be civil, you'll be gone by July. moriah May 2016 #75
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The only troll I will be after is the tangerine terror troll named Trump. Nt moriah May 2016 #80
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If I see you, or anyone, breaking the rules Skinner puts in place then, yes, I'll alert. moriah May 2016 #85
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Why not ask the people who post such things in those threads? aikoaiko May 2016 #4
Because I wanted the question to be its own thread. MineralMan May 2016 #8
Hey, you're the one who claims to be looking for answer. I pointed you to the best place to get it. aikoaiko May 2016 #32
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that is so much bs rbrnmw May 2016 #9
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The "revolutionaries" you are counting on can't even bother to vote. lunamagica May 2016 #20
No we aren't rbrnmw May 2016 #21
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Oh I think I have had my say I voted rbrnmw May 2016 #24
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What is that suppose to mean? rbrnmw May 2016 #30
No, it is not a revolution. Witness the primaries and caucuses MineralMan May 2016 #13
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Sure that's gonna happen rbrnmw May 2016 #23
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This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw May 2016 #27
'not a revolution'... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #26
"Broad appeal"? Really? hack89 May 2016 #77
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POC have overwhelmingly rejected him hack89 May 2016 #87
pivot, pivot, pivot... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #88
His core support is white men. hack89 May 2016 #89
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We know the facts. hack89 May 2016 #94
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It's not a revolution until you're in the streets with huge numbers and demands. Blue_Adept May 2016 #28
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Democracy fails when someone is stealing the election J_J_ May 2016 #11
That is your claim. MineralMan May 2016 #14
When they stop cheating, we'll stop having a problem with it. AtomicKitten May 2016 #74
Which campaign was downloading another campaign's data again? anigbrowl May 2016 #102
Prediction: you will get more of the same, obfuscation, CT, Rigged!!! Hell, they get it BootinUp May 2016 #15
Consider who Sanders praises KingFlorez May 2016 #17
Will democracy be "OK" if Trump wins? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #19
It's up to all of us to make sure he doesn't win. MineralMan May 2016 #41
But, your "simple" answer didn't answer the question. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #50
I don't see an alternative, really. MineralMan May 2016 #54
It is the will of the primary voters for Hillary to be the nominee. hrmjustin May 2016 #31
We want to overrule the DNC shenanigans that resulted in this particular count of votes. Jester Messiah May 2016 #36
That is just rhetoric. hrmjustin May 2016 #40
You only get the bad ending if you win by cheating. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #45
And so you really believe that Hillary is so powerful and talented that she can... moriah May 2016 #83
You're a taxi driver and your fare has instructed you to drive off a bridge. Jester Messiah May 2016 #35
Is that one of those Revolutionary, logic optional syllogisms? LuvLoogie May 2016 #58
No single answer zipplewrath May 2016 #37
Thanks for the explanation. MineralMan May 2016 #42
You ignore all their points zipplewrath May 2016 #49
I ignore nothing. I do disagree with or dismiss their points, though. MineralMan May 2016 #71
And in the process... zipplewrath May 2016 #91
Interesting, perhaps one needs to actually check on what people actually say, rather than snipping. Xyzse May 2016 #51
I could see the pledged delegates voting for the person with few pledged delegates if it was close. MohRokTah May 2016 #52
Explanation: panader0 May 2016 #61
K&R mcar May 2016 #63
Democracy is fine either way. Doesn't mean the best candidate for America is chosen. ie - GW Bush EndElectoral May 2016 #66
I have not heard one good argument on why Sanders should get the nomination. anotherproletariat May 2016 #76
He has a better chance in the General? zipplewrath May 2016 #92
That's not a good argument, it's a speculative claim anigbrowl May 2016 #107
Independents zipplewrath May 2016 #110
Yeah sure anigbrowl May 2016 #111
I've not heard one good argument why Hillary should get the nomination! B Calm May 2016 #93
Votes and delegates. MineralMan May 2016 #95
The integrity of the system matters to people regardless of who wins or loses nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #96
Copy & Paste..er...Post. pangaia May 2016 #105
Unless Hillary has enough pledged delegates to win right now, it's a race. floriduck May 2016 #109
The primaries will run their course, and I have not MineralMan May 2016 #113
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