2016 Postmortem

retrowire

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84. you really cant see anything different about 2016?

Tue May 24, 2016, 04:42 PM

May 2016

Trump is actually fucking happening for god sakes. That alone should make your needle twitch. Things are very different this time around.

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Simple Question for Everyone here. [View all] retrowire May 2016 OP

It will not be an easy race but Hillary has come in first place and has earned the nomination. hrmjustin May 2016 #1

But in a system where a candidate like her should be faltering retrowire May 2016 #5

Maybe because people trust her to be president. hrmjustin May 2016 #7

im sure some do. retrowire May 2016 #11

So we should just give up because it will be hard? hrmjustin May 2016 #15

no giving up retrowire May 2016 #23

Hillary is the most intelligent of the 3 running metroins May 2016 #103

"candidate like her should be faltering" asuhornets May 2016 #24

it didnt happen as well as it could have because retrowire May 2016 #31

You are making excuses.....nt asuhornets May 2016 #34

these are truths and history will say as much. sorry. nt retrowire May 2016 #43

Bwhahahahhahahha - "Jimmy Who?" jberryhill May 2016 #99

mocking me for something i didn't say? hilarious. retrowire May 2016 #100

Again, the fact that the line does not resonate with you is demonstrative... jberryhill May 2016 #105

This reply is so tired angrychair May 2016 #69

Compromise..it's not a dirty word.. asuhornets May 2016 #70

It is angrychair May 2016 #72

Uncompromising means metroins May 2016 #104

Amendments are not always compromises angrychair May 2016 #108

Ummmm. They both won more votes and delegates. boston bean May 2016 #2

But they are the least trusted and liked. retrowire May 2016 #3

People voted. That is the system they won under. hrmjustin May 2016 #4

its not as simple as that. retrowire May 2016 #6

Hillary has won more votes and delegates. hrmjustin May 2016 #10

i hear you, i really do. retrowire May 2016 #12

She wins more votes. hrmjustin May 2016 #17

okay retrowire May 2016 #21

How come Sanders could not get a higher voter turnout? hrmjustin May 2016 #22

there were times when he did and it didnt matter retrowire May 2016 #25

You are making excuses. hrmjustin May 2016 #27

you asked my opinion, i answered retrowire May 2016 #33

Sanders lost fair and square. hrmjustin May 2016 #36

we're not talking about that though retrowire May 2016 #42

No i spent 5 weeks everyday canvassing for Hillary for my health. hrmjustin May 2016 #44

that has nothing retrowire May 2016 #45

You said; hrmjustin May 2016 #47

your 5 weeks of canvassing retrowire May 2016 #48

OK Andy823 May 2016 #95

It really depends on what you believe. retrowire May 2016 #96

you are contradicting your self and your own OP...you say that msongs May 2016 #8

again, its not that simple retrowire May 2016 #20

The simple answer jberryhill May 2016 #9

so are you saying the majority would vote for the least trusted candidates? retrowire May 2016 #14

No, I am not saying either of those things jberryhill May 2016 #29

im not just talking about primaries though retrowire May 2016 #35

Well I guess I need to figure out what you are talking about jberryhill May 2016 #64

new question and its for you. retrowire May 2016 #66

Pretty obvious jberryhill May 2016 #73

but considering that voter outcome has been unprecedented this year retrowire May 2016 #74

IMHO Trump phenomenon caused GE voters to come out for the Primary. emulatorloo May 2016 #79

i think Bernie has done the same on our side. retrowire May 2016 #80

Yes indeed! emulatorloo May 2016 #81

No, I don't think things are different this year jberryhill May 2016 #82

you really cant see anything different about 2016? retrowire May 2016 #84

Things are "different" pretty much every time through jberryhill May 2016 #85

It is my first rodeo actually. retrowire May 2016 #88

Yes, and that's why this November is going to be weird & unpredictable. eggman67 May 2016 #76

very well said. retrowire May 2016 #77

A somewhat related question - why is it that a few favored groups of people are allowed to dictate djean111 May 2016 #13

You talking about superdelegates? nt retrowire May 2016 #18

No. the superdelegate thing reeks, though. And it was invented to keep out candidates like djean111 May 2016 #32

Why do you think that is a simple question? eom yawnmaster May 2016 #16

it is retrowire May 2016 #19

It isn't a simple question. You have defined the contest as one of favor and trust; is that the ... yawnmaster May 2016 #30

The answer IS simple... potone May 2016 #39

The political system in the USA and it is hard to be a representitive democracy when PufPuf23 May 2016 #26

Simple answer - BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY! highprincipleswork May 2016 #28

bingo and a high five. nt retrowire May 2016 #37

BINGO PDittie May 2016 #38

ding. ding. nt restorefreedom May 2016 #58

This. PowerToThePeople May 2016 #122

Most people don't vote in the primaries, even those registered with the respective parties TheKentuckian May 2016 #40

Neither are on the ballot - unfavorable nor untrustworthy, and both are highly subjective.... George II May 2016 #41

Because the system is rigged against "upstarts" dana_b May 2016 #46

exactly. nt retrowire May 2016 #50

A career politician is, by definition, not an upstart. TwilightZone May 2016 #62

Independents aren't who you think they are. Garrett78 May 2016 #49

still have no way of knowing which way they lean retrowire May 2016 #54

Did you read the article? Garrett78 May 2016 #57

and yet, this election is like none other before. retrowire May 2016 #60

So why is it, that the two leading nominees of both parties Zorra May 2016 #51

You don't get to tell me it's because more people showed up for her!!! NCTraveler May 2016 #52

Revealed preference counts for more than declared preference. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2016 #53

I find it curious that supporters of a candidate who has spent most of the campaign insisting that TwilightZone May 2016 #55

curious? this is the will of the people. no confusion needed. nt retrowire May 2016 #56

It was also the will of the people to elect Hitler jberryhill May 2016 #91

Can you fully accept the idea that Superdelegates are a democratic thing though? nt retrowire May 2016 #92

Moreso than the convention that nominated Humphrey, yes jberryhill May 2016 #98

Thank you for being thorough and communicative with me. retrowire May 2016 #116

Eight years from now, no matter what jberryhill May 2016 #121

Before the first vote was cast in Iowa, Hillary had over a 500 super delegate lead. She was crammed B Calm May 2016 #59

How anyone can sit there and think this is not corrupt or odd at all retrowire May 2016 #61

I hear you! This whole primary has been a sham B Calm May 2016 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton May 2016 #65

"trust" is not the same as "trust to be their next leader." alc May 2016 #67

then what about "favorability" ratings? nt retrowire May 2016 #68

Favorabilty ratings = Who would you like to have a beer with? emulatorloo May 2016 #83

I agree. The process has been completely rigged. yolla331 May 2016 #71

The day we nominate based solely on that criterion BootinUp May 2016 #75

There's disinformation on all sides. ALL SIDES. retrowire May 2016 #89

He may look immune in May but he's not. BootinUp May 2016 #93

I hope this is right if she wins the primary. retrowire May 2016 #94

I think the reason has a lot to do with the huge increase in people getting information from the anotherproletariat May 2016 #78

Wrong, there are three candidates not two. B Calm May 2016 #87

You do realize that Sanders already conceded, right? anotherproletariat May 2016 #97

We also, in this day and age, have the ability to do instantaneous fact checking. retrowire May 2016 #90

It's what closed primaries get you AgingAmerican May 2016 #86

She got more votes and we will not let you nullify ours just because you think you know better bravenak May 2016 #101

It's an important question. I believe that an important part of the answer is that Tal Vez May 2016 #102

Perhaps the best political question that I have ever seen. virtualobserver May 2016 #106

Because jpmonk91 May 2016 #107

Obviously Demsrule86 May 2016 #109

not that simple. nt retrowire May 2016 #110

Abandonment of the commons. Chan790 May 2016 #111

I hope we're moving in the right direction. nt retrowire May 2016 #112

Corporate influence has convinced us we have no choice larkrake May 2016 #113

Thucydides wrote about this, as did Plato (it's hardly a new problem for democracies) Recursion May 2016 #114

smoke filled rooms? educate me! nt retrowire May 2016 #115

Back in the day the nominee was selected by the party apparatus Recursion May 2016 #117

Oh, I was expecting something about rooms actually being filled with smoke lol retrowire May 2016 #118

Oh, like the papal enclave? That would be kind of awesome Recursion May 2016 #119

HAHAHAHA good one. XD nt retrowire May 2016 #120