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I have not seen ONE sign that the Democratic Party is WILLING to change. [View all] Skwmom May 2016 OP

K&R emsimon33 May 2016 #1

Right, the establishment is not willing to change; elleng May 2016 #2

I don't find it at all remarkable that they're here. merrily May 2016 #36

The point is they lie. Baobab May 2016 #61

They lost the debate and will be taking their just rewards (HRC) with them eventually nolabels May 2016 #85

OK, I'll give you that, 'tools,' elleng May 2016 #97

The Democratic establishment is very willing to change LondonReign2 May 2016 #86

Change or become irrelevant Baobab May 2016 #89

Others have noticed this Mike__M May 2016 #3

We shouldnt have to start a new party when we already have one. Baobab May 2016 #63

I thought that too, but it is clear that, after last week, the Democratic Party is so far gone JimDandy May 2016 #76

If that were the plan Old Codger May 2016 #4

I haven't seen one reason why we should change. NNadir May 2016 #5

I am from a family of lifelong Democrats. Skwmom May 2016 #7

So what? NNadir May 2016 #9

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Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #29

Better a party loyalist for the Democratic Party... randome May 2016 #30

Better for what? merrily May 2016 #35

Better for making progress on actual issues. randome May 2016 #48

Um, no. Bernie did very well in the House and Senate. Formed the Progressive merrily May 2016 #49

I said he's a great man. I should have said he's a great Senator, too. randome May 2016 #53

Yeah, crippling shyness. I've always suspected that. ret5hd May 2016 #68

A "lone wolf" doesn't get it done. Bernie does. Proof of that. But loyalty trumps facts every time. snowy owl May 2016 #81

I'm sure as hell not 'loyal' to Clinton. I don't even like her. randome May 2016 #83

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I'm not the one demanding that other people change to suit me. That would be the Sanderistas... NNadir May 2016 #111

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I offer a specific objection, and you offer a set of platitudes and then complain about being... NNadir May 2016 #116

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+1. Well said. n/t FSogol May 2016 #64

Your posts are absolute gold in this thread. + a freaking million Number23 May 2016 #114

And I ashamed for your relatives that you think that constitutes an argument. nt anigbrowl May 2016 #90

Arguing policy is fine. OnionPatch May 2016 #71

And what you said about Bernie is totally untrue and of his supporters. We want the issues bkkyosemite May 2016 #80

Nope - you shouldn't. Stick to your guns dana_b May 2016 #99

Be sure, during the Trump Presidency, to announce it's all Hillary Clinton's fault. NNadir May 2016 #118

ralph Nader is "poorly educated"? dana_b May 2016 #119

Yes. I am a scientist and his comments on any issue related to science were frankly nonsense. NNadir May 2016 #120

You made it clear that being beholding to Big Banks and Large Coprporations w/SuperPacs... bvar22 May 2016 #100

Good LiberalFighter May 2016 #106

2.5 million American children homeless, 16 million American children living in poverty, another rhett o rick May 2016 #115

The Democratic Establishment jamese777 May 2016 #6

How long have insurance companies, cliffordu May 2016 #12

Since around 1980. Why do you ask? merrily May 2016 #34

Just want to add that fact to her bonafides. cliffordu May 2016 #74

ok nt merrily May 2016 #79

oh, lord... chervilant May 2016 #73

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Kicked and recommended! I agree 100% Enthusiast May 2016 #10

More scary propaganda from you. Trust me, with tactics like this BootinUp May 2016 #13

+1 JoePhilly May 2016 #23

Thank you! NurseJackie May 2016 #113

We may have to pry the corporate money dreamnightwind May 2016 #14

The current dominate two party system in the US is obsolete and in a rut as a supply RKP5637 May 2016 #37

We have a progressive caucus which has for the most part embraced the corporatist wing Skwmom May 2016 #43

Exactly, that's why it would need eligibility rules dreamnightwind May 2016 #110

During the Obama presidency jamese777 May 2016 #15

Why are you focused only on Wall Street's well-being? stillwaiting May 2016 #21

Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #41

While the working class continues to get bent over. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #52

Corporate Profits up by 144%...Stock Market UP 154%, but this lavish prosperity is NOT.. bvar22 May 2016 #105

They have to unite the party or fold PATRICK May 2016 #16

So be it. 99Forever May 2016 #17

K&R Spot On! B Calm May 2016 #18

"If the Democratic Party would ... Scuba May 2016 #19

The ruling class didn't put all their eggs in one party basket. Skwmom May 2016 #20

You are free to leave the party anytime you want. JoePhilly May 2016 #22

They are free to stay and piss in and out of the tent too. TheKentuckian May 2016 #25

Who are you trashing? merrily May 2016 #31

I did not demand they leave, I simply JoePhilly May 2016 #38

Uh huh. Did you read the last few lines of the Opening Post? OP seems very aware of it. merrily May 2016 #40

You know JoePhilly, this Party used to be less than inclusive of minorities, over the years the Bluenorthwest May 2016 #67

^^^ This ^^^ progressoid May 2016 #92

When there is really only one viable liberal party... tom-servo May 2016 #39

Like any of us have much say anyway... BillZBubb May 2016 #54

Yeah, no direct say... tom-servo May 2016 #93

Let the Republicans who are fed up with their corporatist members deal with their own problem. Skwmom May 2016 #44

When you lose, you don't get your way nt firebrand80 May 2016 #24

You don't seem to know much about our system of government. bvar22 May 2016 #107

I think the changes are relatively recent maybe done without much fanfare the last 6 years. gordianot May 2016 #26

Without much fanfare is an understatement, but it began in 1985, merrily May 2016 #28

Rove thought the one party would be his in a thousand year Reich. gordianot May 2016 #45

So, appointing Warren the Party's liasion to its own left did not impress you much? merrily May 2016 #27

Over the last 6 Presidential Election cycles the Democratic Party has won the popular vote 5 times SFnomad May 2016 #32

Maybe if you get directly in their face a scream at the top of your lungs Dem2 May 2016 #33

The country needs a true progressive party... tom-servo May 2016 #42

Many of those threatening to leave the party were MineralMan May 2016 #46

I have not seen ONE sign that Sanders supporters can work as part of a team. randome May 2016 #47

Translation: Those pesky Bernie supporters can't be brought to heel. BillZBubb May 2016 #55

DWS is likely going to be out as head of the DNC. randome May 2016 #58

You've given the main reason why the Democratic Party won't change with your "The Democratic Party Cal33 May 2016 #50

Are they supposed to give Bernie the majority, when he doesn't have the majority of votes? CrowCityDem May 2016 #51

Then you can't see the forest for the trees. IADEMO2004 May 2016 #56

Me either. tazkcmo May 2016 #57

I'm going unenrolled if she get the nomination. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #59

Like John Travolta said to Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction: randome May 2016 #60

um no. I'm still going to vote progressively. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #65

Why would be want to "help" enact Third Way policies? LondonReign2 May 2016 #87

You're not helping push her further to the left if you simply sit on the sidelines. randome May 2016 #88

I'm only stayng enrolled so that I can keep voting for progressives in primaries. DookDook May 2016 #70

I can't wait for all the DINOs to GTFO! workinclasszero May 2016 #62

You might want to take "Sanders" out of the equation just leave liberals or progressives GTFO. gordianot May 2016 #69

The Democratic Party will EVOLVE, not be taken over by a revolution. nt BootinUp May 2016 #66

Except for the two you mentioned. Orsino May 2016 #72

So, the loser of the primaries should get the majority of seats on the platform committee? TwilightZone May 2016 #75

Who asked for majority? snowy owl May 2016 #82

Yes. Personally I've had enough. Arugula Latte May 2016 #77

Here's a sign they're willing to change: Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #78

I don't think it was to destroy the party. trudyco May 2016 #84

They are too busy dividing and conquering. Skwmom May 2016 #91

that, and.... Triana May 2016 #94

+1,000 Skwmom May 2016 #95

I was so stupid. I thought the Party I worked for and gave hours to glinda May 2016 #96

Did you miss the title of this website? CBHagman May 2016 #98

After everything you done, all your efforts? I'd be upset too. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #101

Change because Bernie Sanders said so? Nothing will be changed from the outside... asuhornets May 2016 #102

Bernie's hostile takeover of the democratic party failed workinclasszero May 2016 #103

Of course it's not going to change of its own accord. It's already too interpenetrated with bjo59 May 2016 #104

Frederick Douglas explained it well: bvar22 May 2016 #109