2016 Postmortem

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69. Did you decide who to support before the first votes were cast?

Reply to Sky Masterson (Reply #18)

Fri May 27, 2016, 11:14 PM

May 2016

What makes it okay for you to make an early, but not binding decision?

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This is how many Superdelegates Clinton had before a single vote was cast. [View all] Sky Masterson May 2016 OP

The words "rigged from the start" come to mind Cooley Hurd May 2016 #1

Rigged implies dishonesty scscholar May 2016 #33

Nailed it. Dishonesty is precisely what it is. nt Alex4Martinez May 2016 #46

How dare people support a candidate! annavictorious May 2016 #53

You made the accusation. Please follow up with links and information... Cooley Hurd May 2016 #55

I think that having superdelegates makes sense. Tal Vez May 2016 #56

No, please take the time to read the anti-Democratic hx of SD's Cooley Hurd May 2016 #58

History Tal Vez May 2016 #64

Something, ANYTHING from the last 2 centuries? Cooley Hurd May 2016 #66

I see. You think that superdelegates are new. Tal Vez May 2016 #67

a) then why are so many of them lobbyists? lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #91

If I were a super delegate, I would not have committed my vote yet. Tal Vez May 2016 #98

They were never for Bernie. He is a loner. No one really likes him. Gomez163 May 2016 #2

Ever heard of the term "projection"? KeepItReal May 2016 #7

No. Never heard of it. Gomez163 May 2016 #11

That's cool. KeepItReal May 2016 #23

Bernie always got along fine on both sides of the aisle. senz May 2016 #30

But ... That's not making the case, you think it is ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #40

Back room deals, hit lists, & political fear-mongering aren't Bernie's style. senz May 2016 #48

Or, they know him and have attempted to work with him ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #61

Thanks, Bookmarking for later. Matt_R May 2016 #99

It's true he is a loner, not one single senator is backing him.. dubyadiprecession May 2016 #78

not true nt grasswire May 2016 #82

Except voters, and we should ignore them. Besides, change agents must be endorsed by the institution lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #92

Wait, now I am confused Corporate666 May 2016 #3

I wrote "Promised" Sky Masterson May 2016 #9

"Promised" is meaningless. TwilightZone May 2016 #12

I'm with you on this. Sky Masterson May 2016 #15

They need a reason to change. TwilightZone May 2016 #28

LOL ... No, I know the shifting argument is difficult to follow; but, it's ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #44

Even without all the yelling and denigrating, there's no reason for them to switch. TwilightZone May 2016 #60

Why did Sanders not have any of the delegates from Comgress? Because he did not establish Thinkingabout May 2016 #4

Your user name, please. Bernie hadn't even decided before she locked them up. It had zero to do floriduck May 2016 #24

And that is one of her more brilliant posts... pangaia May 2016 #25

Well thank you, pangaia, much appreciated. floriduck May 2016 #26

Well, why did he wait so long? It isn't a negative that she decided early and began to lay the Squinch May 2016 #41

Or maybe because money from Hillary's SuperPAC TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #95

Sanders has super pacs, did they miss an opportunity? Thinkingabout May 2016 #96

Sanders' PACs - $607K TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #97

Obviously they think she is competent and the best candidate, livetohike May 2016 #5

That is insane. Sky Masterson May 2016 #18

I think all of the Superdelegates are aware of Hillary Clinton. livetohike May 2016 #37

Except that she has already been judged for two dozen years. JTFrog May 2016 #39

Did you decide who to support before the first votes were cast? onenote May 2016 #69

Super Delegates don't vote to the convention is a standard talking point Trenzalore May 2016 #6

Some feel she is better qualified to lead - no conspiracy DrDan May 2016 #8

This primary has been fixed from the get-go. B Calm May 2016 #10

Can you point to where it says Superdelegates are in any way connected to the popular vote? procon May 2016 #13

This is how many of those superdelegates affected how people voted: Dem2 May 2016 #14

We'll never know. B Calm May 2016 #17

Supposition is the fuel used Dem2 May 2016 #19

A major part of being President is getting people to go along with you & support you. baldguy May 2016 #16

Before any vote was cast Sky Masterson May 2016 #20

His own co-workers won't endorse him. Sorry but a lot of these superdelegates already knew him. randome May 2016 #52

Did you select the candidate to support before any debates? Thinkingabout May 2016 #57

Are you saying Bernie didn't have any support until the first debate? onenote May 2016 #70

You mean like when she tried to get other Democrats to support the Bush Republicon War? rhett o rick May 2016 #21

I would like some historical information from past elections Blue_Adept May 2016 #22

RIGGED is a 6-letter word. nt valerief May 2016 #27

A 400 VOTE HEAD START Jack Bone May 2016 #29

She bought the fealty of her nobles ... Trajan May 2016 #31

Tell me/us ... How many of those pre-debate/pre-anyone voted, promised ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #32

How many are Lobbyest? Sky Masterson May 2016 #34

Interesting ... Now, answer the question. Thank you, in advance. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #49

And? The super delegates switched to Obama when he won the pledged delegates mythology May 2016 #35

Exactly. JoePhilly May 2016 #38

Why don't they just switch to Bernie? yallerdawg May 2016 #36

When Democracy needs a hand, who ya gonna call? Octafish May 2016 #42

Of course. She is a well-known , well-liked Democrat among strong influential Democrats. PeaceNikki May 2016 #43

Impressive self-control!! Bleacher Creature May 2016 #50

It is a little strange to hear people complaining about superdelegates, while simultaneously asking BzaDem May 2016 #45

My god, this tired bullshit. It was the same was in 2008 too, and she lost Tarc May 2016 #47

Everyone knew she had no real competition from a Democrat. If Biden had run, eastwestdem May 2016 #51

SD should be barred from endorsing before the close of the last primary. n/t eggman67 May 2016 #54

Can't change it now. riversedge May 2016 #62

No, but it can certainly be changed for future elections. eggman67 May 2016 #63

The scariest part is they might deliver us President Trump. Vinca May 2016 #59

Kick Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #65

So I guess no one, including the OP, supported Bernie until the first votes were cast onenote May 2016 #68

Do away with superdelegates and Clinton still ends up with more pledged delegates. Garrett78 May 2016 #71

endorsements don't count for anything, other than Jack Bone May 2016 #75

You can more or less say that about superdelegates, as well. Garrett78 May 2016 #83

They were purchased well in advance, weren't they? AzDar May 2016 #72

Democracy? Duppers May 2016 #73

American "democracy," circa 2016. Scuba May 2016 #74

And if Sanders had overtaken her in pledged delegates, as Obama did in 2008, they would have have Metric System May 2016 #76

So? RandySF May 2016 #77

Why do you all REPEAT every word Sanders say...Do u have your own resons supporting him? asuhornets May 2016 #79

I'm confused. barrow-wight May 2016 #80

Sheep. Or bought off for political favour. There's no other way to justify polly7 May 2016 #81

That may be, but it's pretty standard procedure. Garrett78 May 2016 #84

So stupid, and unfair to all those citizens who get out to vote for someone they've polly7 May 2016 #85

I'm not sure what you mean by "biggest votes." Garrett78 May 2016 #86

And they can knock our votes out when we get to the jwirr May 2016 #87

How do you figure they can "knock your vote" out? Garrett78 May 2016 #94

Thanks for the info! BuelahWitch May 2016 #88

But it's Sanders who is disenfranchising voters and for whom the system is rigged. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #89

This undermines HRC supporters claims that SD should follow the will of the people aikoaiko May 2016 #90

No, it really doesn't, because they're free to change their minds. Garrett78 May 2016 #93