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leveymg

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90. Not according to the joint statement of the DOS and Intel Commun. IGs
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:03 AM
May 2016
https://oig.state.gov/system/files/statement_of_the_icig_and_oig_regarding_review_of_clintons_emails_july_24_2015.pdf.

July 24, 2015
Statement from the Inspectors General of the Intelligence Community and the
Department of State Regarding the Review of Former Secretary Clinton's Emails

Yesterday the Office ofthe Inspector General ofthe Intelligence Community (IC IG} sent a
congressional notification to intelligence oversight committees updating them of the IC IG
support to the State Department IG (attached).

The IC IG found four emails containing classified IC-derived information in a limited sample of
40 emails of the 30,000 emails provided by former Secretary Clinton. The four emails, which
have not been released through the State FOIA process, did not contain classification markings
and/or dissemination controls. These emails were not retroactively classified by the State
Department; rather these emails contained classified information when they were generated
and, according to IC classification officials, that information remains classified today. This
classified information should never have been transmitted via an unclassified personal system.



and

The Spy Satellite Secrets in Hillary’s Emails
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/12/the-spy-satellite-secrets-in-hillary-s-emails.html

These weren’t just ordinary secrets found in Clinton’s private server, but some of the most classified material the U.S. government has.

After months of denials and delaying actions, Hillary Clinton has decided to turn over her private email server to the Department of Justice. As this controversy has grown since the spring, Clinton and her campaign operatives have repeatedly denied that she had placed classified information in her personal email while serving as secretary of state during President Obama’s first term. (“I am confident that I never sent nor received any information that was classified at the time it was sent and received,” she said last month.) Her team also denied that she would ever hand over her server to investigators. Now both those assertions have been overturned.

Hillary Clinton has little choice but to hand over her server to authorities since it now appears increasingly likely that someone on her staff violated federal laws regarding the handling of classified materials. On August 11, after extensive investigation, the intelligence community’s inspector general reported to Congress that it had found several violations of security policy in Clinton’s personal emails.

Most seriously, the inspector general assessed that Clinton’s emails included information that was highly classified—yet mislabeled as unclassified. Worse, the information in question should have been classified up to the level of “TOP SECRET//SI//TK//NOFORN,” according to the inspector general’s report.

TOP SECRET, as the name implies, is the highest official classification level in the U.S. government, defined as information whose unauthorized release “could cause exceptionally grave damage to national security or foreign relations.”


and,

CNN and Reuters: Inspectors General concluded Clinton emails presumed classified

The origin of the "presumed classified" determination applied to many of Hillary Clinton's emails are the Inspectors General of the Intelligence Community and the State Department, as reported by CNN. That assessment is shared by the former Director of the Government's Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO), as reported by Reuters.

CNN: 7/24/2015

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/24/politics/hillary-clinton-email-justice-department/
Official: Clinton emails included classified information

Washington (CNN)The inspector general for the intelligence community has informed members of Congress that some material Hillary Clinton emailed from her private server contained classified information, but it was not identified that way. Because it was not identified, it is unclear whether Clinton realized she was potentially compromising classified information.

The IG reviewed a "limited sampling" of her emails and among those 40 reviewed found that "four contained classified information," wrote the IG Charles McCullough in a letter to Congress. McCullough noted that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings" but that some "should have been handled as classified, appropriately marked, and transmitted via a secure network."

The four emails in question "were classified when they were sent and are classified now," spokeswoman Andrea Williams told CNN.

McCullough said that State Department Freedom of Information Act officials told the intelligence community IG that "there are potentially hundreds of classified emails within the approximately 30,000 provided by former Secretary Clinton."


CNN 8/17/15

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/17/politics/hillary-clinton-server-referred-for-further-review/
Washington (CNN)Intelligence officials assigned to review emails from Hillary Clinton's server for classified information have so far recommended that 305 documents be referred to agencies for further consultation, according to a report filed with a federal judge Monday.

In court papers filed with U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras, the State Department updated its progress. It said that as of last Friday, Intelligence Community reviewers had completed a preliminary screening and determined that "out of a sample of approximately 20% of the Clinton emails," the reviewers have "recommended 305 documents -- approximately 5.1% -- for referral to their agencies for consultation."
. . .

inspectors general for the State Department and for the Intelligence Community raised concerns about the content of the emails, the State Department added intelligence staff to assist in the process.


Reuters 8/24/15

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821
Exclusive: Dozens of Clinton emails were classified from the start, U.S. rules suggest


In the small fraction of emails made public so far, Reuters has found at least 30 email threads from 2009, representing scores of individual emails, that include what the State Department's own "Classified" stamps now identify as so-called 'foreign government information.' The U.S. government defines this as any information, written or spoken, provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts.

This sort of information, which the department says Clinton both sent and received in her emails, is the only kind that must be "presumed" classified, in part to protect national security and the integrity of diplomatic interactions, according to U.S. regulations examined by Reuters.

"It's born classified," said J. William Leonard, a former director of the U.S. government's Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO). Leonard was director of ISOO, part of the White House's National Archives and Records Administration, from 2002 until 2008, and worked for both the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.

"If a foreign minister just told the secretary of state something in confidence, by U.S. rules that is classified at the moment it's in U.S. channels and U.S. possession," he said in a telephone interview, adding that for the State Department to say otherwise was "blowing smoke."

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Caught with her pants down, she still cannot tell the truth. AtomicKitten May 2016 #1
Perfectly said Atomic Kitten. MuseRider May 2016 #13
...!100++++ 840high May 2016 #24
Such a great choice we have. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #38
Look At These Solemn Faces On Morning Joe With Mika, Andrea Mitchell And Chuck Todd Among Others.. CorporatistNation May 2016 #73
Some basic research (and journalistic integrity) by MSM should have long ago revealed HRCs lies. leveymg May 2016 #79
Some basic research and the NY Times Sparkly May 2016 #84
It's not the server that's illegal, it's the classified information placed on it. That's a felony. leveymg May 2016 #87
No classified information was "placed on it." Sparkly May 2016 #88
Not according to the joint statement of the DOS and Intel Commun. IGs leveymg May 2016 #90
Key Word: "Retroactively." Sparkly May 2016 #94
EO13526 sect 1.4 Press Virginia May 2016 #97
None of that is germaine. leveymg May 2016 #98
Except for the 114 e-mails that HRC personally authored that were Press Virginia May 2016 #93
"Classified upon creation" Sparkly May 2016 #95
EO 13526 spells out what is classified upon creation Press Virginia May 2016 #96
Your response is not on point and is insulting. nt leveymg May 2016 #99
Classified upon creation is not only covered in the law,... HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #102
Is it any surprise why she didn't want an IG at State? Yurovsky May 2016 #2
I can't get over the arrogance and self-entitlement of all of this. polly7 May 2016 #4
Yep, that's the thing that gets lost... Yurovsky May 2016 #10
Apparently, there is no price too high for us to pay... dchill May 2016 #78
Very well said... findrskeep Jun 2016 #101
The Edge of Legality Octafish May 2016 #5
And THAT is a perfect description of where Bill and Hillary jwirr May 2016 #27
Agree 100% with your last sentence... Yurovsky May 2016 #53
Through the years that seems like the story with many nolabels May 2016 #68
We turned over everything! Except the stuff that I decided not to turn over! XemaSab May 2016 #3
and she acts as though she did it and they were made public at her request Press Virginia May 2016 #6
Hillary and truth = oil and water. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #39
Translation: Yes, I wiped the server n/t davidlynch May 2016 #16
That's about the size of it. SusanCalvin May 2016 #48
Tick Tock BSers trumad May 2016 #7
her evolving explanations have nothing to do with anyone but her Press Virginia May 2016 #11
Yes, we see all of you watching the clock with various levels of apprehension Hydra May 2016 #17
They will blame Comey and spew the "innocent until proven guilty" Press Virginia May 2016 #22
As far as I know, Biden is infinitely a better choice. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #40
Ah, but the Brock team belongs to Hillary Hydra May 2016 #42
Biden kind of half-heartedly already ran. libdem4life May 2016 #50
I'd sure as hell vote for Biden Aerows May 2016 #70
I think I'll be staying home. I just can't vote for Hillary. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2016 #100
I am proud to be a BSer. Your attempts to ridicule are childish, but then that's your rhett o rick May 2016 #31
Tick tock trumad May 2016 #33
your hopes must be pinned to this story going away by June 7th Press Virginia May 2016 #34
Again, childish rhett o rick May 2016 #37
Yes, time is running out on Your Highness. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #41
drip drip jonmac511 May 2016 #56
Tick tock trumad May 2016 #69
+1,000,001 dchill May 2016 #80
Being saved from having a HORRIBLE CANDIDATE represent us is possible: Herman4747 May 2016 #49
Part of the rules is if you don't know you need to ask and she onecaliberal May 2016 #8
Yep. Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #43
I remember when the criteria for Republican candidates almost reached "not yet indicted" back in the Blue Meany May 2016 #9
"I did not have relations with that server!" - Hillary Rodham Pinnochio Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #12
pretty much Press Virginia May 2016 #14
"Sorry, officer. I didn't know that I couldn't do that." Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #44
Strategic ignorance aka If I don't ask, I don't know, therefore I'm not guilty DebDoo May 2016 #15
she would have been better off saying she didn't know the rules Press Virginia May 2016 #21
Given that there was no stated prohibition... LAS14 May 2016 #61
it's called "plausible deniability" nt grasswire May 2016 #28
What did you expect? Downwinder May 2016 #18
It was a gamble RobertEarl May 2016 #19
As "TPP sets the gold standard" became " "I hoped it would be the gold standard." (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #20
Perfectly reasonable. As circumstances change, one must change with them. LAS14 May 2016 #62
I don't even see how she can say that. SHE sent out an email to all the employees pdsimdars May 2016 #23
The truth is she didn't care about the rules but she's never going to Press Virginia May 2016 #26
There may be more than one pathological liar running for president. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #25
psst... cui bono May 2016 #46
Pretty upsetting that she refused to be interviewed by the IG Dems to Win May 2016 #29
I believe it was probably on advice from council Press Virginia May 2016 #30
first excuse of a caught sociopath undergroundpanther May 2016 #32
So she was too dumb to know it wouldn't be allowed and too lazy to check? winter is coming May 2016 #35
Either she is corrupt or incompetent. Neither is acceptable. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #36
Too bad she can't have one of her lackeys change the rules on a whim without a proper vote. cui bono May 2016 #45
The fact that people are actually defending her still amazes me Press Virginia May 2016 #47
I'm with you on this. flor-de-jasmim May 2016 #51
Because... Snowden, or some such bullshit. SMC22307 May 2016 #71
Sneakiness Faux pas May 2016 #52
Her motto for workers' training: "don't ask for permission, Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #54
when has she ever asked for forgiveness ... refresh my memory. serious here. thanks. Hiraeth May 2016 #57
What she means is, Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #60
Maybe that's why she doesn't want to release the speeches? DookDook May 2016 #91
It is really very, very simple… being Secretary of State of the United States of America Agony May 2016 #55
As often as it is in the political world, it's not the scandal... basselope May 2016 #58
OK. So when what is being said changes, your response changes. LAS14 May 2016 #59
only liars have to change their story. She claimed the SD confirmed her use Press Virginia May 2016 #64
Source? LAS14 May 2016 #65
For what? HRC's change of her story? Press Virginia May 2016 #66
For Hillary "claiming SD confirmed." LAS14 May 2016 #67
More than one time Press Virginia May 2016 #74
Thanks for the citation. LAS14 May 2016 #75
The state of the SD system is irrelevant Press Virginia May 2016 #76
It's very relevant to what she might... LAS14 May 2016 #82
She never asked. Press Virginia May 2016 #85
Check this out. LAS14 May 2016 #83
Newsweek materially misstates much of the IG report Press Virginia May 2016 #86
Can you cite some mis-statements? LAS14 May 2016 #89
And when a few people raised concern about her server they were told to never mention it again pdsimdars May 2016 #63
K & R AzDar May 2016 #72
Just slow walking. HassleCat May 2016 #77
"It was allowed." dchill May 2016 #81
She also "thought" wiping her server would permanently erase the email trail. NorthCarolina May 2016 #92
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