Exchange between Bill Clinton and New Mexico Resident Illustrates Deceptive Framing of Key Issues

[highprincipleswork]

15. There is talk about PoC being the most rational of all this year, and I hate to say it, but

I find them absolutely the least rational. Why? Possibly because the first Black President is about to leave office. That has to be the occasion for a great deal of sadness, whether or not he has truly fulfilled anything like a Progressive term of office or one that served even PoC in a particularly admirable way. He has been historically the first Black President, and that is amazing. Objectively speaking, many of us feel he could have gotten far more if he, like the Clintons, was not under the sway of Republican-lite policies begun during the times of Clinton, policies that have lost us the House and Senate more often than not.

In the midst of this sadness, Blacks have decided to crap on an admittedly White presidential candidate who was arrested in service of civil rights, stood out as one of the few to endorse Jesse Jackson, and is a clear fighter for racial justice. They have lobbied against economic Progressivism, because they seem to think racial justice must be put first. Obviously a huge issue that must be addressed, but in dealing with an entire populace, how do you put this first, and is that the wisest course of action? In all this they have sided with the person who arguably was far less pro-active in dealing with groups like BLM than Bernie Sanders. Also to denigrate the traditions of the New Deal and FDR, in favor apparently of Clintonian economics, a soundly regressive and unsuccessful skewing of Democratic thought. This does not seem rational in any sense to me.

I don't see how you can take Social Security out of the hands of FDR.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-signs-social-security-act

As for Medicare, I know FDR didn't establish it. In fact, he left it out. But the people who were behind it when it did pass were largely inspired by principles of the New Deal.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/medicare-made

I put the New Deal up, not because it was perfect, but because it was the foundation for Progressive majorities in Congress and for governmental policies that were most socially responsible for decades. I put this up in direct contrast to the economic foundations of the Clinton presidency and of New Dems ever since, which have been largely based on Ronald Reagan!!!! Not that they completely mimic them, but they vary them slightly or they compromise with them or they incorporate them as much as they feel necessary to win over the electorate that they posit is so far to the Right.

What a recipe for capitulation and lack of success, which brings us to where we are today.

Does it really make sense to you to see PoC defending policies that are largely reactionary policies based on ideas fomented by Ronald Reagan versus going with the tried and true New Deal principles put forward and defended ardently by Bernie Sanders?

That is apparently where you and I differ. I will go with the New Deal principles every time, implemented for all people, versus the corrupted policies and economics of the New Dems which hurt us all.