2016 Postmortem

ljm2002

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43. She practically admitted...

Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:55 AM

Jun 2016

...that she gave Bush support for the Iraq invasion in return for his largesse to NYC after 9/11. That statement of hers undermines her claim that she didn't know / was lied to by Bush et al regarding Iraq.

But not only did she vote for the invasion, she gave a fairly long and full-throated speech in support of the invasion. That is why I hold her more responsible than some others who voted for it -- but I do hold all of them, every last single one, partially responsible. Especially the Democrats who voted for it. SHAME on all of them.

There was at least a reasonable argument to be made for invading Afghanistan, although Bush managed to make a cock-up of that anyway. But Iraq, that was a pack of lies, and many in government and out of it knew so at the time.

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Woman with classified info on her basement server decides [View all] Press Virginia Jun 2016 OP

IS that the same woman who ..... Uben Jun 2016 #1

Yup Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #2

You think she could have stopped them from buying Chinese imports, lol? bettyellen Jun 2016 #63

Yeah, also the same woman that voted for the Iraq War Broward Jun 2016 #7

Wrong! That lady is not going to be the next presiden of the USA. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #25

like my friend says... artyteacher Jun 2016 #27

I, and millions of others, never believed Bush. dchill Jun 2016 #29

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #32

And you probably think... dchill Jun 2016 #33

You are fucking disgusting. frylock Jun 2016 #50

...This is the second time I've ever been out and out fucking disgusted by a poster here. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #53

She practically admitted... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #43

This is digusting and an affront to victims of rape. frylock Jun 2016 #49

Yes...this venal incompetent might well be president. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #35

It's the same woman who blames Edward Snowden for outing the snooping on Americans by the NSA. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #54

THIS Is The SAME Woman Who Has A Veracity/Character Issue! NOT Good! CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #3

This is so painfully MFM008 Jun 2016 #4

This Whole Speech Thing Is Nothing More Than Another "Shiny Object" To DISTRACT The Public From The CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #5

^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^ Period. End of sentence. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #26

...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #65

+1000000000 azmom Jun 2016 #71

Foreign policy is one of her strong points, especially against Trump, and also obviously Bernie. YouDig Jun 2016 #6

wow. that's just a flat out lie. Exilednight Jun 2016 #8

Retroactively classified, sure. And there is some gray area, sometimes the same document YouDig Jun 2016 #9

thanks for admitting you lied. Exilednight Jun 2016 #10

You guys are getting really desperate. 6 more days! YouDig Jun 2016 #11

He didn't lie. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #18

either she did or she didn't send classified information. we now know she did. Exilednight Jun 2016 #37

The facts are in dispute DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #38

it's been established that material had its classification header Exilednight Jun 2016 #40

There is no evidence it was sent but I will be courteous and not call you a liar. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #41

"Mrs. Clinton said Sunday that the request to her staffer"... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #46

she had a responsibility, and she failed in it. Exilednight Jun 2016 #42

That the woman who edited the President of Brazil out of Downwinder Jun 2016 #12

She did that? I hadn't heard that one. Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #13

Hillary Clinton’s Memoir Deletions, in Detail Downwinder Jun 2016 #14

Of course it wasn't marked classified - it bypassed the government check! Plus she clearly asked on DebDoo Jun 2016 #20

She's the Secretary of State, she has the authority to classify and declassify, YouDig Jun 2016 #21

Since she had the power to classify emails she should also have the judgement to know what is DebDoo Jun 2016 #22

Now you're just flailing in desperation. YouDig Jun 2016 #23

Nope, you're projecting DebDoo Jun 2016 #24

IF ITS STATE DEPARTMENT CLASSIFIED, that's probably true Bob41213 Jun 2016 #34

How do you know she had that authority?n/t dgibby Jun 2016 #59

I wonder if it ever occurred to her minions... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #44

Do you also think her email server caused the Japanese tsunami? Hey, you never know. YouDig Jun 2016 #45

I think it is highly unlikely her server could have caused a tsunami... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #47

When a subpoena or NSL comes to a public server, you are not notified. Downwinder Jun 2016 #48

So you are saying... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #57

I don't hate Hillary but I think she is about as dumb as Nixon... Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #16

Yeah, she's really good at being responsible for thousands of deaths notadmblnd Jun 2016 #56

12 hidden replies. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #15

Am I on your ignore list, bro? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #19

Sorry about your fear of women MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #17

Please tell Hill to stop... she's killng me here. yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #28

Totally unqualified, totally disqualified. dchill Jun 2016 #30

It is damning to her claim of being strong on national security. Will it keep her B Calm Jun 2016 #31

One doesn't often see such an outright display of arrogance. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #36

There will be no Q&A. frylock Jun 2016 #55

That's right, I forgot. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #61

What a horrible JOKE... AzDar Jun 2016 #39

What is she going to propose? notadmblnd Jun 2016 #51

Its okay, see Press Virginia Jun 2016 #66

You forget-it was retro-actively classified. riversedge Jun 2016 #52

keep hope alive Press Virginia Jun 2016 #60

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to make national security a campaign issue "against a man". NCTraveler Jun 2016 #62

It wouldn't matter who it was against. She's got some issues, right now, Press Virginia Jun 2016 #64

She is the national security giant in the field. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #67

of course she is...I mean, who else stores classified information on their basement server Press Virginia Jun 2016 #68

Tis a big world. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #69

Trump is a clown. But they'll both get us into a shooting conflict Press Virginia Jun 2016 #70

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