2016 Postmortem

tonyt53

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2. How many of Bernie's "wins" have come in states with caucuses of open primaries?

Reply to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Wed Jun 1, 2016, 01:21 PM

Jun 2016

That tells the real story. Oh, you can add in NY, PR, DC, VI, probably NM to HRC. CA will likely be hers too, but she will have enough delegates before those votes are counted. Not a chance in hell Bernie will sway the first super and he may very well lose one or two that he has. Most people don't take lightly to insults.

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Sanders has already won most of the West and North states; will he also carry most Central states? [View all] Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 OP

Hunh?? Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #1

How many of Bernie's "wins" have come in states with caucuses of open primaries? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2

Sanders actually doesn't do that well in primaries, regardless of if they are open or closed mythology Jun 2016 #26

Exactly tonyt53 Jun 2016 #51

What is this? Some new form of #berniemath? YouDig Jun 2016 #3

BernieMath - ways to use numbers to prove any point. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #9

How many losses came before his name was even known? libdem4life Jun 2016 #4

Momentum? Not all that much. onenote Jun 2016 #14

He wasn't even known for half of the time thus far. I know this is libdem4life Jun 2016 #15

"The further away from the public...HRC stays, the better she does." demwing Jun 2016 #23

Yet he's still losing as many as he wins despite being known onenote Jun 2016 #37

Of the legion of invalid excuses, that is the LAMEST invalid excuse. Seriously. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #38

I don't like to respond to such lack of serious discourse. It's unbecoming. libdem4life Jun 2016 #48

Well let's see . . IOWA where Sanders declared a "virtual tie" is in the Northeast now? Or not early Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #53

Well, I don't have hysteria. I never said all/non/never... libdem4life Jun 2016 #56

Ok so what was your point here? You just said stuff, but it wasn't based on facts Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #61

Most of her most so called lead in the popular votes came then madokie Jun 2016 #77

A new and improved format of "Hillary won the Confederacy", eh? LanternWaste Jun 2016 #5

I'll give 'em extra credit for all the creativity! Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #6

In other words, all those pesky AA voters didn't see the light. Beacool Jun 2016 #18

That and two bucks will get him a cup of coffee... SidDithers Jun 2016 #7

How about by population? HappyinLA Jun 2016 #8

That doesn't matter ... On DU, a win over the Toledo Mud Hens is equal to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #93

Hillary has regional appeal and is losing most contests outside of her region. Vote2016 Jun 2016 #10

Yup. She appeals to populated regions. Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #16

No modern party nominee has lost so many states and gone forward to win in November Vote2016 Jun 2016 #36

That's not how the General works. Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #57

Yes, that IS how general elections work. Weak primary candidates lose general elections. Vote2016 Jun 2016 #58

The 2008 primary race was more competitive and Obama had no trouble winning in November. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #84

Sanders will win more states than Hillary won in 2008. Your "binary map" blather is as unpersuasive Vote2016 Jun 2016 #86

Do you even comprehend why binary maps are misleading? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #87

Indeed, the region called "United States of America" has awarded her the nomination in a landslide. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #50

What does "landslide" mean in your language? Vote2016 Jun 2016 #62

last time I looked...hillary has beaten sanders in every category by huge numbers that beachbum bob Jun 2016 #11

beachbum bob�How has Hillary performed with those 18�29? � CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #64

how did sanders do with the over 55? The minorities?? beachbum bob Jun 2016 #65

beachbum�Please answer, rather than deflect, my question. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #76

But your not counting, Field Goals ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #94

Or another way to look at it: Clinton has won 12 of the states carried by Obama onenote Jun 2016 #12

Hillary has 3 Million + more votes than Bernie redstateblues Jun 2016 #13

This meme is getting old. I'm not even going to be the 51st poster libdem4life Jun 2016 #49

Only a cipher would say Florida is part of the Old South. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #17

I guess your history book was a cipher and I don't recall Nevada or Arizona having Pacific Ocean Vote2016 Jun 2016 #63

I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #95

How many of those southern states will she win in the GE? B Calm Jun 2016 #19

Two of the three most important swing states-FL and VA. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #20

That's all? Hoping it would be better than that. B Calm Jun 2016 #21

What other southern states beside FL, VA, and NC has any Dem* carried this decade ? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #22

Here's the map. B Calm Jun 2016 #25

Gore and Kerry carried no southern states. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #29

Click the link I added B Calm Jun 2016 #30

Let's carefully avoid asking the same question in regards to Sanders. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #32

Come On, Utah!!! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #97

not a damned one /nt demwing Jun 2016 #27

So we can take out Idaho, Utah, Nebraska, Wyoming, Alaska, Kansas and Oklahoma mythology Jun 2016 #33

Good point! B Calm Jun 2016 #34

Give it up book_worm Jun 2016 #24

Odd to claim NV and AZ are Central States... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #31

Sanders is undeafeated if you only count the states he won. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #28

These binary maps are terribly, terribly misleading. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #35

Yep. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #60

What kind of loopy-dippy system groups Massachusetts with...Oklahoma as "Central" ??? Tarc Jun 2016 #39

How about we dismiss these binary maps altogether? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #42

Lol @ loopy-dippy Quayblue Jun 2016 #46

Hill appeals to the redder portions of the country senz Jun 2016 #40

One of the many false yet popular DU memes. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #41

Hillary won the South on the strength of the African-American vote Tarc Jun 2016 #54

And she appeals to the less white portions of the country, as well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #98

Please don't give credence to the Clinton-Red argument. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #99

This is true; but, I just could let it pass ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #107

"(give her credit, she swept the 13 states of the Old South) " Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #43

If it weren't for caucuses where would Sanders be? nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #44

Out of the race. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #45

Funny how Hillary never once complained about caucuses while she was in Iowa. Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #108

Who said she was complaining about them now? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #109

Who has more delegates? PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #47

Doesn't amount to a small pile of dogshit, though. Darb Jun 2016 #52

All those ACRES and not so many DELEGATES. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #55

There are multiple problems with these binary maps. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #59

1,769 - 1,501 - that's all that matters DrDan Jun 2016 #66

Go Bernie!! Major Hogwash Jun 2016 #67

Population represented by Hillary: 213,324,491 Population represented by Bernie: 66,279,893 Sancho Jun 2016 #68

Hillary won IL, NY, and PA which have more people than all the other "North" states combined oberliner Jun 2016 #69

Can you tell me how NV, AZ, CO, and NM became Central States? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #71

It's a bizarre premise oberliner Jun 2016 #72

My friend is a member of The Inner Circle of Advocates, you can google it. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #75

Sanders OWNS the states where almost no one lives. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #70

Only #BernieGeography could put Idaho and NY in the same geographical region, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #73

Try to create your own 4 regions that encompass about a quarter of of the Democratic vote where the Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #79

"NY and Idaho are both on the Northern border of the US". Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #80

Is your eye immune from perceiving the fact that Hillary's and Sanders' strongest states cluster Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #81

Do you not see the numerous flaws with binary maps? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #82

As the lawyers say "res ipsa loquitur". DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #83

You can chop the country into 9 pieces instead of 4 regions, but result in the same. Sanders is Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #85

My mom was a successful litigant in a med-mal case that cost millions of dollars ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #88

I used YOUR map. Hillary's just unappealing North of the 42nd parallel and West of the 95th Meridian Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #89

I used to go to the court house to read the depositions. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #90

I believe Hillary's unfavorable and untrustworthy rating is higher than any Democratic candidate Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #92

My mom was an incredible woman. There is not a day I don't think of her quiet bravery. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #100

He/she refuses to acknowledge the multiple glaring flaws with binary maps. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #96

STATES ARE PEOPLE, TOO, MY FRIEND! randome Jun 2016 #101

I don't want to beat a dead horse but at the end of the day people vote not acreage. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #102

Yep, that's what I was referencing in post #82. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #105

Sanders vs Trump, Sanders will probably carry 50 states. B Calm Jun 2016 #74

And yet he still trails by millions of votes n/t sharp_stick Jun 2016 #78

Old south = dog whistle workinclasszero Jun 2016 #91

your guy lost. GET OVER IT ALREADY still_one Jun 2016 #103

But will they still get the free stuff - college education and healthcare if they do? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #104

they should go ask their leader. Good one tony still_one Jun 2016 #106