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CobaltBlue

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17. Cheese Sandwich—It isn't difficult to understand.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jun 2016

For Hillary Clinton's Democratic primaries voters: They start with people aged 65+. They were born, est., 1950 and before. They were in their 40s, at their earliest, when Bill Clinton unseated George Bush in 1992. Clinton was the only two-term Democratic president during the Republican presidential realigning period of 1968 to 2004, during which that party won 7 of 10 election cycles (1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, and 2004). Bill is like a God to this age demographic of Democratic presidential primaries voters. And so, too, is Hillary.

The money people love the Clintons. The bankers, Wall Street, every source of capitalism and corporatism—they are very comfortable with the Clintons. They love Bill for being the president who presided over the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act. And lots of people became richer while Bill was president.

None of the real power in this country want Bernie Sanders to be president. Any politician who is truly progressive—and not a sellout for the wealthy—is to be contained. Even in the Democratic Party, one who is truly progressive is limited to a minor role in the U.S. House of Representatives or a U.S. Senate seat only from a Strong Democratic state which is commonly associated as friendly to the truly progressive. (Everyone else is a—cough!—moderate.)

2016 has been a great year in which both political parties revealed they are lower than that joke about moving a rock and finding a lawyer under it. On the Republican side, there is no concern from that party and any of their officeholders about people's incomes and for climate change. On the Democratic side, progressivism is selling people out on trade deals and continuing with wars, no matter which party's president they had started, in order to further enrich the companies profiting off wars like Iraq. (They both serve the military industrial complex loyally.)

The specifics about this year's Democratic Party has been collusion to get Hillary Clinton the nomination. That Bernie Sanders was not expected by these out of touch establishment figures to be viable. And once Bernie Sanders did catch on, and we saw a few (including John Lewis) from the CBC PAC respond (meaning, reveal they too are corrupt) right after New Hampshire, all the co-conspirators—party insiders, professional pundits, "news" media—worked to malign him with their efforts to shut down Sanders (and, by that measure, his voters). You see that at even from people who don't make their living in Democratic Party politics or "news" media—the two-party system, which has at least 96 percent (since 2000) of this country living and breathing to combine for that dominance routinely propping Teams Red and Blue, is constantly being tauted as the only choices.

Bernie Sanders is not good for corrupt, rich—and really wealthy—people. He is the exact opposite of the kind of politician who would make them feel comfortable. This is recognized by the establishment from the Democratic Party. This is why we have seen corruption among the Democratic Party establishment—along with the corruption from the professional pundits and sources considered "news media"—because they, like the entire Republican Party, enjoy what is typically, for them, a sure thing: money.

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Because it is her turn. That's why. Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #1
You forget millions of votes and hundereds of delegates. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #5
You truly believe this is how we should pick our nominee? Truly? NCTraveler Jun 2016 #2
Weaker candidate??? The GOP would tear Bernie apart. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #3
Right Meteor Man Jun 2016 #9
Uh, time for a history lesson, McGovern ran in 1972 against Nixon and the similarities are striking. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #13
No, they aren't striking at all. Bernie has NOTHING in common with McGovern Ken Burch Jun 2016 #23
Bernie is more like Mondale who also ran on raising taxes on the middle class redstateblues Jun 2016 #38
A closer analogy-but there was more to Mondale's humiliating defeat than that. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #50
Really? The McGovern campaign reminds me a great deal of the Sanders campaign Gothmog Jun 2016 #56
It's not as though we'd have done better in '72 Ken Burch Jun 2016 #67
Yes, the similarities are striking. McGovern wooed college students the most. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #57
1) It's not accurate to say ALL unions back HRC Ken Burch Jun 2016 #66
Excellent, Accurate, and just otherwise Spot On, Ken.. 2banon Jun 2016 #64
done(with modifications) Ken Burch Jun 2016 #68
Hillary, too. libdem4life Jun 2016 #26
But the attack ads on Sanders write themselves Gothmog Jun 2016 #61
voters over 50 may prefer Hillary to Bernie, that doesn't mean they wouldn't prefer Bernie to Trump thesquanderer Jun 2016 #19
"will ever vote for a socialist" JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #34
I'm nearly 50 (46) and my Mom and Step-Mom are in their late 60s. Fawke Em Jun 2016 #53
The GOP has nothing on Sanders AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #58
BUT SHE'S AHEAD! MisterP Jun 2016 #4
+1 Truth. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #6
Follow the money Meteor Man Jun 2016 #7
Bingo GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #72
If this were only NOT the case! elleng Jun 2016 #8
I frame those who disagree with me the same way. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #18
Because he tells them things they want to hear, even when they're not true. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #10
If Bernie has rallies with over 60 bazillion people how come he doesn't get as many votes? Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #11
Because a whole lot of people don't think she'd be the weaker candidate onenote Jun 2016 #12
Because more Democrats are voting for her in the primaries. MineralMan Jun 2016 #14
What till you see the GE... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #29
Oh, I'll be around for that, you can be sure. MineralMan Jun 2016 #37
principle HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #48
The Democratic Party in action Meteor Man Jun 2016 #54
Because Americans are addicted to war and trickle down. nt JEB Jun 2016 #15
Her turn. I don't know why they bothered with a primary. Vinca Jun 2016 #16
That's why no other credible establishment Democrat challenged her. libdem4life Jun 2016 #31
Why did Bernie get beaten so decisively? redstateblues Jun 2016 #41
Beaten decisively? Meteor Man Jun 2016 #52
If it wasn't for the party elites (superdelegates), it would be nearly even. Vinca Jun 2016 #62
Uh. Not really. It was a larger margin than 08 redstateblues Jun 2016 #69
Cheese Sandwich—It isn't difficult to understand. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #17
I love how on both sides, nobody really wants to tackle climate change. DookDook Jun 2016 #47
Those graphs have a huge caveat: the public does not know Bernie and the Repubs have not defined him LonePirate Jun 2016 #20
In case you've missed it, HRC's numbers JUST DROPPED. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #24
You must be one of those partisans convinced Bernie's numbers will never fall below Hillary's. LonePirate Jun 2016 #25
Bernie is getting swamped in national polls redstateblues Jun 2016 #42
They can't have it both ways. If he was not known, libdem4life Jun 2016 #35
What's that George Carlin observation bvf Jun 2016 #21
Hahaha! nt arikara Jun 2016 #33
LOL!!!!! zappaman Jun 2016 #22
Seems to me "class" is in short supply here. libdem4life Jun 2016 #36
The same people who dismiss these GE polls SheenaR Jun 2016 #27
Because I have a trailer of stone we picked out of the Purveyor Jun 2016 #28
Hillary will be elected RandySF Jun 2016 #30
"Since early April, Clinton's lead over Bernie Sanders among Democrats has grown steadily." riversedge Jun 2016 #32
Maybe it's because you don't believe in democracy. Hillary has millions more votes than Sanders. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #39
Because your premise has been roundly rejected by most Democrats. And, Lil Missy Jun 2016 #40
a pacifist is incapable of protecting america will never be elected president beachbum bob Jun 2016 #43
President Elizabeth Dole. She was way ahead at one point. blm Jun 2016 #44
Let me one up you MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #45
Clinton is hands down the candidacy of strength. Sanders hasn't been vetted and would be seabeyond Jun 2016 #46
Because Sanders ran a poor campaign brush Jun 2016 #49
Because it worked out great for President Gore/Kerry Sky Masterson Jun 2016 #51
The polls being cited by the Sanders supporters are worthless because Sanders has not been vetted Gothmog Jun 2016 #55
Democrats have deliberately & on purpose voted for Hillary Clinton...n/t asuhornets Jun 2016 #59
Disagree... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #60
Because they were told to, and like good authoritarians they do as they are told. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #63
The weaker candidate is the one losing by almost 3 million votes taught_me_patience Jun 2016 #65
weaker in the general election is what I'm talking about. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #71
Republicans called Obama "the black power communist Muslim from Kenya". How did that work out? imagine2015 Jun 2016 #70
I have no idea why so many democrats are supporting the weaker candidate. ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #73
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