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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Exchange between Bill Clinton and New Mexico Resident Illustrates Deceptive Framing of Key Issues [View all]1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)17. Okay ...
Obviously a huge issue that must be addressed, but in dealing with an entire populace, how do you put this first, and is that the wisest course of action?
Yes ... That is the wisest course for ME; just as, addressing the issue of "an entire populace" (read, YOU, personally; a position that leaves PoC, even the most impoverished, in largely, the same relative position) is the wisest course of action for YOU.
don't see how you can take Social Security out of the hands of FDR.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-signs-social-security-act
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fdr-signs-social-security-act
I don't ... He took it out of the hands of my grand-parents ... that's the unromanticized truth, and the point I've been making.
But that said, I had written a much longer response to your post; then, deleted it because I realized that you (whether consciously or unconsciously) really believe that YOU fighting for YOUR interests, and trying to get me to believe likewise, is the only moral position; whereas, me fighting for my interests is less moral ... because it does not include a benefit to you ... even as history has demonstrated that bottom-up solutions trickle up (a lot faster) than, the trickle down ("trust me" fiction) justice that you offer.
(See: the Civil Rights Act of 1964-originally drafted for African-Americans; but, within less than 10 years, gave birth to laws that included/protected the entire populace.)
So ... I will leave it right where we stand. It is my sincere hope that you can/will step outside of yourself (your direct and immediate interests) in an attempt to understand, just how rational Black voters are being.
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Exchange between Bill Clinton and New Mexico Resident Illustrates Deceptive Framing of Key Issues [View all]
Baobab
May 2016
OP
Democratic Party did so much better with the policies of FDR, holding majorities in Congress for
highprincipleswork
May 2016
#2
Why do you insist on promoting the same myth ... over, and over, again ...
1StrongBlackMan
May 2016
#4
While what you say is true, it doesn't negate the fact that ALL people are doing worse after
cui bono
May 2016
#8
I assume PoC benefitted in the end from Social Security and Medicare and numerous other programs
highprincipleswork
Jun 2016
#9
No one is saying ending or diluting these programs; but, if you haven't heard of ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2016
#14
There is talk about PoC being the most rational of all this year, and I hate to say it, but
highprincipleswork
Jun 2016
#15
I never saw it until you constantly used it to smear Bernie. But let's drop that.
cui bono
Jun 2016
#20
Yes ... Let's move to you making up stuff I didn't say, nor, have ever thought ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2016
#22
You didn't address anything I said and now you are pretty much calling me a liar.
cui bono
Jun 2016
#23
I'm not an economic primacy advocate. I advocate for everything as I have just said in my posts
cui bono
Jun 2016
#31
We cannot have another NewDeal today, all of the things done are against international private law.
Baobab
Jun 2016
#25
First of all, look at the chart and you will see that what I am promoting in this post is no myth -
highprincipleswork
Jun 2016
#10
Q: What happened? What did you ask? And were you satisfied with President Clinton’s responses, Josh?
oberliner
Jun 2016
#33
Again though, there's no reason to start that way. It shouldn't matter unless one wants to prejudge
cui bono
Jun 2016
#38
Under Clinton at least within the Federal government, Affirmative Action and Equal Employment
Jitter65
Jun 2016
#11
Which means what exactly? Is it that he found Bill's answers validate everything you've read here
AtomicKitten
Jun 2016
#30