2016 Postmortem

AgingAmerican

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39. Because she takes multiple, opposing positions on issues

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:04 PM

Jun 2016

And she always punts when asked a position on anything. She's always 'waiting for studies to come out', or whatever, on issues of basic right and wrong.

That and her right wing militarism.

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Why isnt Hillary Clinton more popular here? [View all] reddread Jun 2016 OP

Because she's not a progressive. Fawke Em Jun 2016 #1

seconded floppyboo Jun 2016 #2

Ding Ding SmittynMo Jun 2016 #3

True. k8conant Jun 2016 #20

Hillary is a progressive, she's not a "movement progressive" BlueStateLib Jun 2016 #46

Is that the new name for RINOs? yourout Jun 2016 #64

Being a Progressive actually requires getting some shit done, you know, having actual PROGRESS Mr Maru Jun 2016 #123

"it's hard to expect much from a guy who pretty well avoided work for roughly the first four decades Capt. Obvious Jun 2016 #124

I thought it was common knowledge Mr Maru Jun 2016 #125

Thanks for sharing... Blanks Jun 2016 #166

Great, does that progress and success require evidence? GRhodes Jun 2016 #129

"Please, list her accomplishments in office, at the State Department.." DesertRat Jun 2016 #144

OK. I'll bite. pangaia Jun 2016 #156

Thanks for sharing...I think. Different Drummer Jun 2016 #161

Holy good god damn GRhodes Jun 2016 #171

Spot effin' On! This^^^^ !! Apparently, this needs to be reposted a Million Times 2banon Jun 2016 #214

Memo to DesertRat: So far, Hillary's Kissinger connection hasn't been a big selling point on DU. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #186

First 4 decades of his life? That lazy bum - not working when he was 10 years old. bjo59 Jun 2016 #130

what progress has hillary made? she takes us backwards with her dishonesty. she sets a hideous Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #178

Please clarify in what ways she is a Progressive and what you think a highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #76

I really want to know, too, so that I have more solid ground for supporting her. ancianita Jun 2016 #116

She's whatever you want her to be. corkhead Jun 2016 #101

Yep. tabasco Jun 2016 #112

I think of her as the Quantum Candidate. DookDook Jun 2016 #119

True: she's more of a "bowel movement progressive." Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #134

Well, she's certainly full of shit. John Poet Jun 2016 #173

LOL smiley Jun 2016 #185

Like being a Republican without the guilt. mac56 Jun 2016 #151

WINNER !!!!!!!!!! pangaia Jun 2016 #158

She's more like a "moment progressive". John Poet Jun 2016 #172

Please explain the difference? Armstead Jun 2016 #194

THIS vintx Jun 2016 #61

+1 nt chknltl Jun 2016 #85

+1 Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #139

THIS! basselope Jun 2016 #149

Succinct summation. n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #176

Ding Armstead Jun 2016 #193

The entire basis of her campaign is identity politics. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #4

There is a lot of truth to this. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #15

Those with a superficial understanding of politics are easily moved by superficial politics. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #104

Yep. Separate by race, gender, religion, and social class then ask where their check mark is. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #63

In comparison to music... Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #65

Good comment! n/t Different Drummer Jun 2016 #155

Or Beethoven pangaia Jun 2016 #159

True Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #163

I used to know my music, but I have no clue what you're talking about Armstead Jun 2016 #195

They are! Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #213

That is actually a accurate analogy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #205

Because of her record and her "experience" and her friends. eom Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #5

...and her friends. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #187

Most likely folks figured out the what Wellstone ruled Jun 2016 #6

Because DU members, as a general rule, are better informed than the public at large. Scuba Jun 2016 #7

Smarter then the public at large? Like the Republican public that chose Drumpf as their nominee? Sheepshank Jun 2016 #21

I don't equate "smarter" with "better informed" ... Scuba Jun 2016 #89

i simply don't go along with your presumption that the you version Sheepshank Jun 2016 #91

That's because the vote isn't limited to DU members. Scuba Jun 2016 #95

Definitely better informed than Different Drummer Jun 2016 #157

you just made his argument insurmountable reddread Jun 2016 #94

Lol. Agschmid Jun 2016 #190

I hate terms like "smarter" and "better informed" but.... Armstead Jun 2016 #198

I think your comment needs a qualifier.. :) 2banon Jun 2016 #215

Because Faux pas Jun 2016 #8

Just thought you should know you we're alerted on. cannabis_flower Jun 2016 #26

Thanks Faux pas Jun 2016 #45

Sorrow is often expressed when firmly entrenched in second place. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #54

FYI - I was dinged for the SmittynMo Jun 2016 #72

Because she disqualified herself while SoS lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #9

What difference does it make? This is a bubble where people can vote for unicorns that fart glitter upaloopa Jun 2016 #10

9-1 reddread Jun 2016 #13

Now where have I heard that first phrase...sounds vaguely familiar.??? libdem4life Jun 2016 #14

I'd rather fart Unicorns than drones and brown folk village's devastation. libdem4life Jun 2016 #17

I just like the way you spelled considered Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #70

upaloopa�It�s comment like yours why I don�t� CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #84

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #120

You're rooting for the GOP against our Democratic candidate? DesertRat Jun 2016 #145

Where did I say that? frylock Jun 2016 #146

"I can't wait till the GOP runs that ad." DesertRat Jun 2016 #147

To piss off Hillary Supporter. frylock Jun 2016 #148

"what difference does it make?" Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #135

She's a Hawk and responsible for many, many many deaths of civilians libdem4life Jun 2016 #11

What Junk! jzodda Jun 2016 #43

No, she commanded where the military went and what they did. libdem4life Jun 2016 #49

She did not jzodda Jun 2016 #59

Read my post. I can't help you with comprehension. libdem4life Jun 2016 #67

Just blame her for everything jzodda Jun 2016 #69

Ok then. libdem4life Jun 2016 #79

Hillary can't fail, she can only be failed. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #126

You are denying reality. SpareribSP Jun 2016 #73

I never said that jzodda Jun 2016 #77

Obama had to be talked into Libya....and we know who did it. libdem4life Jun 2016 #82

Yeah jzodda Jun 2016 #86

OK, then. libdem4life Jun 2016 #92

She wasn't the only one pushing to intervene. frylock Jun 2016 #122

yea, she single-handedly started the Iraq war too. Personally murdered thousands. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #96

Ok, then. libdem4life Jun 2016 #102

Oh, nice, a two-fer. Obama Derangement Syndrome and Clinton Derangement Syndrome all in one post! BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #142

We came! arikara Jun 2016 #127

That is not regime change according to that poster though. They are added to the list. nt stillwaiting Jun 2016 #203

Because too many "progressives" are enamored of RW propaganda about her. baldguy Jun 2016 #12

The old "it's all right wing propaganda" canard. She's really got you under her spell. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #23

+1 Scuba Jun 2016 #29

there is plenty of that out there reddread Jun 2016 #41

You are the one in a cult jzodda Jun 2016 #56

Your list of rationalizations IS EXACTLY what cultist would say. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #141

+1000 AntiBank Jun 2016 #175

For the same reason Dennis Kucinich was so popular mythology Jun 2016 #16

war vs anti-war? reddread Jun 2016 #19

She's a corporate authoritarian with all the personality of a paramecium and the political instincts tularetom Jun 2016 #18

Ding! Ding! Ding! Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #136

She is very popular here oberliner Jun 2016 #22

I think Hillary's popularity on DU is underrated. Many of her supporters tend to not post in GD-P Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #24

true. reddread Jun 2016 #31

DU members do not/cannot ban anyone. That's the job of MIRT and admins. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #38

from the Hillary group? reddread Jun 2016 #47

Sorry, misunderstood. From the group, yes. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #58

what are the relative numbers again, granny? reddread Jun 2016 #68

Perhaps Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #99

those boundaries are crucial. reddread Jun 2016 #113

Yes, indeed. LOTS of Hillary supporters never visit GDP. LAS14 Jun 2016 #51

Just one detail about that. surrealAmerican Jun 2016 #100

I think it just indicates that HRC supporters tend to post more Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #105

Because Sanders supporters have found comfort here LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #25

You win. That's what it looks like from here too. eom Blanks Jun 2016 #108

Because DU has always had more liberals than partisans Prism Jun 2016 #27

Interesting post... Armstead Jun 2016 #199

She's a dishonest right-winger. Broward Jun 2016 #28

Because she's awful? bigwillq Jun 2016 #30

Because people supporting Hillary are not welcomed here. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #32

DU has always swung on the left side of center, been that way since I remember beachbum bob Jun 2016 #33

is not "left of center" wtf the Democratic Party is supposed to be????? AntiBank Jun 2016 #182

95% of democrats don't get much love on DU qdouble Jun 2016 #34

because internet Locrian Jun 2016 #35

She isn't liked in most places. Look at her favorability and trustworthiness polls. morningfog Jun 2016 #36

Because she laughs. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #37

Because she takes multiple, opposing positions on issues AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #39

DU leans more progressive than rank-and-file Dems... Orsino Jun 2016 #40

Could it be the name "Underground"? gordianot Jun 2016 #42

The Truth has a Left of Center Bias. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #44

Because DU is far left leftynyc Jun 2016 #48

as distinguished from socialism and communsism and pastafarianism? reddread Jun 2016 #50

They've got their pulse on something and it's not the nation. grossproffit Jun 2016 #106

Don't try and tell them that leftynyc Jun 2016 #111

Because were sick and tired of defending the Clintons! NAFTA was the B Calm Jun 2016 #52

you and me both reddread Jun 2016 #107

Because she's just awful pengu Jun 2016 #53

Looks like the "lying opportunist" base has been well covered, so I'll just say, winter is coming Jun 2016 #55

I always liked her. hollowdweller Jun 2016 #57

"It was like low pay and long hours were OK as long as we covered the culture war stuff."<<< THIS! AntiBank Jun 2016 #177

Because many people are just tired Bjornsdotter Jun 2016 #60

Because people here are paying attention to reality. Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #62

No Hillary signs sandyshoes17 Jun 2016 #66

you know, I remember a similar thing with GW reddread Jun 2016 #71

A big part of that is just the way Team Hillary is running their show GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #88

Hackable voting machines can be used for either Party. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #131

Because name recognition isn't important. We follow issues. RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #74

Define 'engaged'. randome Jun 2016 #75

You can find literally any viewpoint well represented in the Internet. BzaDem Jun 2016 #78

There Has Always Been a Tension Between the D and the U On the Road Jun 2016 #80

The Money. She sides with the Money. Octafish Jun 2016 #81

its money that matters reddread Jun 2016 #90

I was at Kos for a long time SheenaR Jun 2016 #83

I LOVE HILLARY!!!!!!! nt asuhornets Jun 2016 #87

My sense is that it is 2 dynamics working together GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #93

Reddread, maybe the lack of recs has something to do with the alert patrol? floppyboo Jun 2016 #97

Because Sanders, in a word. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #98

If you go back about 8 years she had some vociferous seemingly unforgiving opposition reddread Jun 2016 #133

We have a lot of gullible Bernie people here. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #103

I have to say that actually that's another thing the Hillary camp wins in terms of numbers AntiBank Jun 2016 #179

We have a lot of gullible Clinton people here too. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #189

Depends on your definition of here here. ucrdem Jun 2016 #109

Because DU is the mirror image of Free Republic. Beacool Jun 2016 #110

how many mutual posters? reddread Jun 2016 #117

Her supporters are less likely to read RW crap, tolerate sexism and roll in the mud for sport bettyellen Jun 2016 #114

where will those Honduran orphans be? reddread Jun 2016 #118

Her much touted "foreign policy experience". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #115

just do a quick google search of "hillary clinton lies" and give your self 5 minutes of reading boomer55 Jun 2016 #121

Her voting record. Sky Masterson Jun 2016 #128

It's not just here. She's flat out unpopular-- period. LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #132

+1000 AntiBank Jun 2016 #183

Same reason she gets fewer people at rallies. We're going about our lives, not raging in big groups. nolabear Jun 2016 #137

silent majority reddread Jun 2016 #138

Because she's been bought and paid for by the 1% Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #140

Well .. not too worried about her popularity here// Peacetrain Jun 2016 #143

It's simple. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #150

Because she's a neocon cliffordu Jun 2016 #152

They're too busy voting for Hillary, THREE MILLION MORE of them than Bernie. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #153

DU is more progressive than the party as a whole gollygee Jun 2016 #154

I think it is the disingenuity... davidlynch Jun 2016 #160

Number of posts, 30 days -- Sanders Group: 16,412. Clinton Group: 30,211. ucrdem Jun 2016 #162

So Hillary has twice as many negative comments as Bernie I take it :) n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #164

not the MATH! reddread Jun 2016 #169

She is more popular with the VOTING public tandot Jun 2016 #165

She is more popular with the VOTING public...like the super delegates. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #191

reddread�Hillary Clinton is too popular on this site. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #167

I imagine she'll be more popular here after June 16th EndElectoral Jun 2016 #168

Doubt it... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #188

Popular via attrition. I expect quite a few to leave or take a vacation. EndElectoral Jun 2016 #217

Top Ten Reasons: 1. She is pushing establishment status quo when the people desperately want change Vote2016 Jun 2016 #170

That pretty much sums it up for me pokerfan Jun 2016 #216

Because once past people are you know people, consistent agreement with her can be tough to come by. TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #174

Because a neocon foreign policy is a very bad thing. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #180

She is failure waiting to happen Sky Masterson Jun 2016 #181

I worry much more about the right-wing shit that a POTUS Clinton is going to give left cover to. AntiBank Jun 2016 #184

I almost look forward to the witch hunts reddread Jun 2016 #208

If Brock has anything to say about it, the proportions here will shift. merrily Jun 2016 #192

she is challenging (and significantly thrashing) a cult-hero - they hate being reminded of this DrDan Jun 2016 #196

oh my God, who? reddread Jun 2016 #200

Lol - good one DrDan Jun 2016 #201

She and her husband have worn out their welcome and I'm sick of them. BlueStater Jun 2016 #197

Because she was crammed down our throats by the DNC. Giving her an unfare advantage from B Calm Jun 2016 #202

Her lips are moving. dchill Jun 2016 #204

Most informed people don't trust her in the Real World. 99Forever Jun 2016 #206

Because the perpetually disgruntled are always disgruntled. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #207

and the Billionaires played on reddread Jun 2016 #211

Misogyny rock Jun 2016 #209

all over this place reddread Jun 2016 #210

You'd be surprised rock Jun 2016 #212