2016 Postmortem

democrattotheend

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23. I know several such people

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:48 PM

Jun 2016

Many of the ones I know are right-leaning independents with a strong libertarian/anti-establishment tilt. My libertarian boyfriend went out with some friends a few months ago, all of them Libertarian or Republican, and all of them were marveling about the fact that of the five candidates left in the race at that time, the candidate they found the most palatable was Bernie Sanders, the self-avowed socialist. They obviously don't agree with him on many issues, but they like that he is shaking up the party establishment, they agree with him on issues like drug decriminalization and civil liberties, they think he is the most honest candidate in the race, and they are not scared by his economic proposals because they assume they will never pass (sadly, they are probably right).

Many of them prefer Trump over Hillary because he, like Bernie, has shaken up his party establishment, speaks his mind, and comes across as more honest. These guys don't like Trump at all, but they view him as less bad than Hillary.

I think the other group of Bernie/Trump supporters are blue collar "Reagan Democrat" types who have been hit hard by free trade.

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Who are the people who give Sanders a higher % over Trump than Clinton? [View all] LAS14 Jun 2016 OP

Just go to the EC map and look. It mirrors the wins for HRC. She wins in a landslide in November. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

One simple one is younger people who feel betrayed by both parties. SpareribSP Jun 2016 #2

What isn't establishment about Trump? NCTraveler Jun 2016 #4

His last name isn't Bush SpareribSP Jun 2016 #7

That is my point. He is as establishment as they come, just with a different style. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #9

I think that it's more about revenge against the people SpareribSP Jun 2016 #14

+1 Agree. Thanks for the reply. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #15

maybe younger white people, but younger people of color don't dig the short-fingered vulgarian nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #12

Women also don't seem to get along well with Trump SpareribSP Jun 2016 #16

It's a simple one alright. I grew up with Nixon, Carter, and Reagan. We were just as screwed then puffy socks Jun 2016 #21

voters reddread Jun 2016 #3

People looking for an anti-establishment candidate. People against trade deals. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #5

those who want to throw a wrench in the machine because they feel poweless to do anything else corkhead Jun 2016 #6

no, we just won't vote at all. nice broad brush ya got there. Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2016 #8

If you gotta ask, then you'll never understand. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #10

What a ridiculous response. What are you doing in DU? Just here.. LAS14 Jun 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #26

And have they been dissing people who ask questions... LAS14 Jun 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #37

Let's see. You've been here less than 4 months. LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #28

12 years does nothing to make his/her response less ridiculous. LAS14 Jun 2016 #32

I don't believe Sanders supporters would vote to lower taxes on the rich, deport Muslims, deport Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #11

low information voters who are responding to the negative press geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13

Sanders has Democratic, lefties, and some libertarians behind him karynnj Jun 2016 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #29

no, you are right, my few libertarian friends love Bernie, but if it is Hill, they will go Trump larkrake Jun 2016 #30

It doesn't make sense on a policy scale, but there are a lot of people that vote on feelings cemaphonic Jun 2016 #19

Independents. nt bunnies Jun 2016 #20

"The problem is that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are the people most certain of them." BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #22

I know several such people democrattotheend Jun 2016 #23

Millennials, in particular white millennials. MillennialDem Jun 2016 #24

To be objective TheFarseer Jun 2016 #25

no, you are not thinking straight. Bernie folk will not vote for trump larkrake Jun 2016 #27

False and tiresome meme. Bernie supporters are the opposite of Trump supporters. lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #33

It's a real question based on the fact that Bernie... LAS14 Jun 2016 #35

I N D E P E N D E N T S lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #34

White people who are sick of getting beat up by "free trade" deals, for example. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #36