2016 Postmortem

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)

9. Amazing. Trillions??? No offset? Healthcare for all (3 decades after

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:48 PM

Jun 2016

Hillary)? Diplomacy before war? 3 million votes ahead...except for those caucus states?

Even the wordy, adjective-filled tome is a bit hyperactive.

But I get that's your opinion. I just wish it didn't have to be smearing people with questionable and overwrought emotion.

BTW...before Reagan, free/inexpensive college was all we had in California. The first 14 were free and loans for the last 2 years, were at 3 percent and a portion automatically repaid annually after each year of professional service.

Then some bank/Republican likely came up with the idea they could get a whole bunch of money, dumb down the masses, and take the "government mismanaged" education fund out of the mix.

Speaking of pandering, deception, shameless, unadulterated, suspect...gosh there were a lot of them.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

90 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Hillary Supporters: Why Does Any Good News for Bernie Trigger Such Outrage? [View all] davidlynch Jun 2016 OP

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid they can't do that. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #1

Juicy were you channeling the HAL? :) n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #3

Guilty. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #4

Hillary "good". Bernie "bad". Why? Beats the Hill out of me. Perhaps because she's a "winner". highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #2

Hillary Did NOT Congratulate Bernie ONCE Whenever He WON A Primary... Yet What Did Bernie Do When CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #83

That's good news? I think not. bettyellen Jun 2016 #5

Sanders implemented the cheapest tactic of them all. He traveled from college campus to Trust Buster Jun 2016 #6

Amazing. Trillions??? No offset? Healthcare for all (3 decades after libdem4life Jun 2016 #9

+100 Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #86

So you're saying you can't show any support because you think he's not genuine... davidlynch Jun 2016 #10

There was a time when the Democrats were liberal and fought for liberal ideals Gore1FL Jun 2016 #21

strange new world, isn't it? grasswire Jun 2016 #55

Bullshit. Bernie's proposals are sensible AND PAID FOR. senz Jun 2016 #28

Correct rock Jun 2016 #84

Another close one! Orrex Jun 2016 #88

You sound like a Liberal to me. Imagine. Taking the other side's libdem4life Jun 2016 #7

Nonsensical. He shamelessly pandered and you know it. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #8

But you are dead wrong. Period. libdem4life Jun 2016 #11

The convention will not be "contested", and it would be bad news not good news if it did. YouDig Jun 2016 #12

You are characterizing Bernie's determination as trying to "pull" something... davidlynch Jun 2016 #15

He's trying to pull a superdelegate coup, he's not even hiding that anymore. YouDig Jun 2016 #17

You guys are paranoid he doesn't have magic powers to "pull" anything... davidlynch Jun 2016 #20

I'm not worried that he's going to succeed. I'm worried that his attempt will divide the party YouDig Jun 2016 #24

Big ego? You guys must be in some parallel universe... davidlynch Jun 2016 #32

I see a guy with a big ego, what can I say. YouDig Jun 2016 #60

We HAVE already seen evidence of it. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #80

The Party is already divided due to values and issues that glinda Jun 2016 #40

A contested primary is probable. Guaranteed... Orsino Jun 2016 #65

Her supporters have different goals - they act like politics is a ball game demwing Jun 2016 #13

As does their candidate: win, and to hell with anything and anyone else. senz Jun 2016 #29

The goal in a primary, ... to win. Is a bad thing. This thread is really meant as a joke, right? seabeyond Jun 2016 #36

But she isn't even doing that. Only hundreds of dispirited people come to her "rallies" pdsimdars Jun 2016 #75

They don't want to hear anything rational. They have chosen to follow Clinton no matter what rhett o rick Jun 2016 #14

Because claiming there's going to be a contested convention isn't true? sufrommich Jun 2016 #16

"Contested" simply means Superdelegates will have to vote to decide the outcome... davidlynch Jun 2016 #18

Yes,I know what the technical term means. I also sufrommich Jun 2016 #19

There is no way: Bernie isn't the type to "play" his supporters... davidlynch Jun 2016 #22

What other motive could there be? sufrommich Jun 2016 #23

Bernie is hoping the SDs will think he's the stronger candidate to beat Trump davidlynch Jun 2016 #25

There isn't going to be a stampede of delegates to Sanders sufrommich Jun 2016 #26

You seem to have a crystal ball, you are saying it as if you have inside information n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #33

The super delegates announce who they are voting for...who they intend to vote for is no mystery. qdouble Jun 2016 #74

that's not 'good news' bigtree Jun 2016 #27

Good news is process will be followed to its conclusion... davidlynch Jun 2016 #38

but will Bernie folks respect the process? bigtree Jun 2016 #61

I am certain that Bernie will handle this with extreme dignity... davidlynch Jun 2016 #67

Hopeful in what sense? rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #30

Probability of a superdelegate switch is non-zero... davidlynch Jun 2016 #35

Probability of a meteor strike ending life on earth rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #37

Probability of SD switch is almost certainly greater than ELE meteor strike... davidlynch Jun 2016 #42

True enough rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #48

No, superdelegates could not switch on the basis of polling data. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #81

Seriously? Lmao. He is out to cause problems. Good news for him, so we should all rejoice? Odd. seabeyond Jun 2016 #31

How do you know his goal is to "cause problems"... davidlynch Jun 2016 #34

Because he lost and continues on. Because all of his history the last 5 decades has that intent seabeyond Jun 2016 #39

Your premise "he lost" isn't technically true, so neither is your conclusion n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #43

Ok, it will be Tuesday. seabeyond Jun 2016 #45

! Fuddnik Jun 2016 #59

Why is the thread you link to characterized as "good news for Bernie" ? Tarc Jun 2016 #41

"Contested" simply means Superdelegates will have to vote to decide the outcome... davidlynch Jun 2016 #47

I don't know why I'm trying to respond to this rationally... davidlynch Jun 2016 #52

Because all along, Sandersfans have made it sound like the Republican convention Tarc Jun 2016 #53

News is one thing. Bernie telling lies and giving false hope does not qualify as 'good news'. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #44

What is the "false" part of the "false hope" to which you are referring? n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #49

"We can win", "superdelegates will switch", "the convention will be contested", etc. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #50

Thanks for responding, but how do you know... davidlynch Jun 2016 #57

SDs have never overturned the voting results, and they won't start for Bernie. That's how. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #63

The only way would be if they were damn near certain that HRC was damaged... davidlynch Jun 2016 #66

When Humphrey won, not nearly every state had a primary. Party bosses still picked candidates. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #69

Because they hate liberals and progressives, just like we hated Bush. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #46

Did you see what happened when Samuel L Jackson endorsed Clinton? NCTraveler Jun 2016 #51

If some Sanders supporter said that, then he/she is an ass... davidlynch Jun 2016 #54

It's how you are definite it. Very situational. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #56

There are idiots in every group... davidlynch Jun 2016 #58

Ok. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #62

Another goddamned "supporters" thread. n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #64

Awwww pdsimdars Jun 2016 #76

For some people, being an avid supporter of X means that anyone who doesn't winter is coming Jun 2016 #68

because 99% of sanders supporters don't anything about bernie beachbum bob Jun 2016 #70

hi, could you rephrase. Matt_R Jun 2016 #73

The populace must be left devoid of any hope whatsoever. Hope is evil. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #71

How is that "good news" for Bernie? oberliner Jun 2016 #72

Because their opposition to Bernie is based on bias, not on politics. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #77

It's nothing personal. They are just doing their job. nt GoneFishin Jun 2016 #78

I only see 17 replies out of 80 Califonz Jun 2016 #79

Corporatists are in a never ending battle against populists. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #82

Hillary Supporters resist (or resent) the democratic process, the actual meaning of democracy. 2banon Jun 2016 #85

Because... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #87

He's a SOCIALIST!!!!!!!! noiretextatique Jun 2016 #89

Sanders resorting to desperate tactics is Good News for him? itsrobert Jun 2016 #90