2016 Postmortem

DemocratSinceBirth

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25. Well

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:42 PM

Jun 2016

"Those "massive crowds" didn't do him much good at the voting booth, did they?

Playing small venues seemed to work out well for one of the candidates, huh."

"Just had to set the record straight. Wouldn't want you to be under some kind of illusion. "

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We always hear about the 3 million+ voters for HRC. [View all] sadoldgirl Jun 2016 OP

Lol. See, someone suggested caucus count for two. But they just do not draw enough people. I said, seabeyond Jun 2016 #1

There's also the scenario where Hillary is removed from the primary altogether. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #2

considering that HRC supporters dismiss every state she doesn't win as not diverse, etc roguevalley Jun 2016 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author FreakinDJ Jun 2016 #105

You know what makes me sad? That people judge those of us who live in the southern states Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #3

Southerners have been taken advantage of RobertEarl Jun 2016 #8

Bullshit. Did Bernie bother to come to the south to introduce himself? Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #9

Yes he did RobertEarl Jun 2016 #13

This is false on its face, Weaver and Divine OPENLY ADMITTED to not competing in "southern states" uponit7771 Jun 2016 #91

Bernie held large successful rallies in Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, New Orleans, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #53

How do you define success? Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #59

When 15,000 people come out to hear a person speak I consider that success, yes. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #60

Who got the votes? That seems to be the measure of success in elections. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #61

'The votes' is brought up here constantly and it's all that matters to some, yes. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #63

Rally attendance doesn't equal votes. The rock star type rallies don't seem to be working as well Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #66

Since you claim small, meet and greet affairs do well, how did that work for Obama? appalachiablue Jun 2016 #68

What does Obama have to do with this? I didn't know he was running. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #70

Obama was the last Democratic presidential candidiate elected appalachiablue Jun 2016 #73

There was no primary process in 2012, it was a formality. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #82

I'm not ignoring anything concerning this this election, know it. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #87

They didnt always work well. MadBadger Jun 2016 #107

When it comes to elections, no, crowds don't matter if those people don't then go vote. moriah Jun 2016 #117

Interesting the small crowd strategy. I've never seen a presidential candidate, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #118

It's he fact that if the people who attend see her as a real person... moriah Jun 2016 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author moriah Jun 2016 #119

Not unless they vote redstateblues Jun 2016 #62

How many people have come to Clinton rallies and events? appalachiablue Jun 2016 #64

The voters are the ones being disrespected not Sanders. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #72

You've obviously never experienced Southern hospitality. moriah Jun 2016 #89

"Southerners have been taken advantage of" ... Do tell! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #102

No, in no way will I accuse the Southern States and sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #10

excuse me? NJCher Jun 2016 #11

Those "massive crowds" didn't do him much good at the voting booth, did they? Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #17

Nope NJCher Jun 2016 #34

Hugs. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #49

Thanks. Sticks and stones and all that. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #52

Hang in their. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #55

Well DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #25

A lot of the south votes for the Republican candidate in the GE anyway though, right? Seeinghope Jun 2016 #16

yes and she knows it. And she does not speak for all of us Southerners. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #31

Oh yes, I know that does not speak for all of you. I lived in Georgia for a few years so I totally Seeinghope Jun 2016 #109

How has Utah and Alaska voted in the GE ... You have no problem with those votes. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #104

I have no problem with the individual votes. It is how the state goes in the GE that I am wondering Seeinghope Jun 2016 #110

My point is how are you going to question the southern states that HRC won ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #114

A president has to represent everyone. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #106

Are you saying that Democrats in southern states shouldn't have a voice in selecting the Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #108

No that really isn't what I am saying although in the GE when the state aligns with the the other Seeinghope Jun 2016 #112

Now THAT is important. It shows a lot of power since "the establishment" doesn't own the political Seeinghope Jun 2016 #113

Really? Hillary won Ohio, Pennsylvania, amd Florida. IMPORTANT swing states. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #121

It wasn't a level field RobertEarl Jun 2016 #4

White man Sanders has an unlevel playing field with the woman in the race, lol. seabeyond Jun 2016 #6

Your response is ludicrously uninformed. JudyM Jun 2016 #71

Yes it was, suggesting a white man faces the unlevel playing field running against a woman. seabeyond Jun 2016 #77

Edited for clarity since you misunderstood. JudyM Jun 2016 #78

Cause white men have all those obstacles placed in front of them, while women have the course clear seabeyond Jun 2016 #79

It was "tilted" because voters already favored her from the start. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #100

It's not the media and DNC insisting on Secretary Clinton .. it's the voters SFnomad Jun 2016 #5

Nah! Democrats are just not that into Sanders. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #7

You may be right, but do you really think sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #12

No offence but O'Malley is boring. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #14

His policy positions are better than Hillary's. But 'boring' implies that it is about personality JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #37

My canvassing showed that in NY people voted her because she was the most qualified. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #38

My canvassing shows quite different results. YMMV. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #40

She was senator here so people know her better. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #41

That could quite easily explain it. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #42

Experience. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #43

Voting one's gender. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #44

I'm a guy so that is a big no for me. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #46

Only females should vote their gender? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #50

My apologies for not being clear. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #51

Well, he could not be more boring than HRC. sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #45

Well maybe in the future. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #47

Gah! Just about everyone's into Sanders NJCher Jun 2016 #18

That is ok because she got more votes. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #19

So you're basically raising your fist and shaking it at...time? Calendars? Tarc Jun 2016 #15

Well, see, okasha Jun 2016 #21

under the bus with you father time! tandem5 Jun 2016 #74

I think about this, too, sadoldgirl... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #20

She won five big northeastern states just over a month ago oberliner Jun 2016 #22

If only there was a way for people to "record" a debate, so they could watch whatever sporting event Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #23

Who has the biggest number of delegates...number of votes beachbumbob Jun 2016 #24

I don't think that you understood what I tried to say. sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #27

Nobody forced their vote Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #92

. RandySF Jun 2016 #26

Great response, will you feel the same if she sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #30

13>10 mill bigwillq Jun 2016 #28

We can not know if the votes were counted fairly in many places for this primary. stillwaiting Jun 2016 #85

The system probably needs improvement, I agree bigwillq Jun 2016 #86

We can't know, although exit polls were not showing McCain winning. stillwaiting Jun 2016 #88

If Sanders wasn't known after spending a quarter of a century in Congress, what should that Trust Buster Jun 2016 #29

Just as much as how O'Malley as governor sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #32

You earn name recognition. It's not given. Sanders was unknown because he had zero Trust Buster Jun 2016 #35

first lady is now an earned position? jonmac511 Jun 2016 #93

Your post was silly and embarrassing. You can do better than this. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #94

feel free to explain jonmac511 Jun 2016 #95

"Who arranged for this???" Clue: Her initials are DWS jack_krass Jun 2016 #33

Yeah right' she engineered Hillary's name recognition and Sanders' obscurity. Did you think Trust Buster Jun 2016 #36

Now, don't be a chicken about this: sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #48

State by State Graph at Link Henhouse Jun 2016 #57

Sanders Campaign's failure to tailor his message to appeal to Southern voters, most of them black, Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #54

I swear some of you Bernie supporters are allergic to Google justiceischeap Jun 2016 #56

Watch it man... GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #65

Try a Google Image Search for 'thumb on the scale' Electric Monk Jun 2016 #69

So it comes down to attacking GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #58

They're not counting the number of voters in the caucuses she isn't millions of votes ahead onecaliberal Jun 2016 #67

Where did thay COME from?? THAT'S what Matters? No, honey, MATH is what matters LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #75

There was likely an early-voting campaign as well Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #76

And who is to blame if a person votes before researching the candidates? Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #84

that's what I said... kicking themselves Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #116

It was never intended to be "fair" quaker bill Jun 2016 #80

That was a part of it, but did you see those posts about how they count the votes? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #81

25 years in the Senate and hardly anyone knew who he was. randome Jun 2016 #83

257 of the SDs worked with BS in Congress...and the majority of them are with Her. Henhouse Jun 2016 #90

Wow. randome Jun 2016 #96

Actually its 13 million voters and they mostly came from states that Obama won onenote Jun 2016 #97

Sanders got obliterated in Maryland because demographically geek tragedy Jun 2016 #98

No it DOESN'T matter where they came from, and it's offensive to suggest such a thing. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #99

I was well informed about Bernie when I voted for Hillary in the NC primary. yardwork Jun 2016 #101

There's regret in the early voting states A Little Weird Jun 2016 #103

There was a caucus in the Virgin Islands yesterday and there will be a primary in Puerto Rico today. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #111

3 milllion could not vote in the NY primary alone noiretextatique Jun 2016 #115