2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Clinton’s Speech Shows that Only Sanders is Fit for the Presidency [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)either. All we know is that he applied and he did not get drafted or get a decision. And, I believe, but am not certain, that deferments or appeals would have extended the time of his eligibility beyond the minimum cut off age, anyway.
However, if he did have a number, his number simply was not called in the lottery. That would have had zero to do with appeals. It was also not Sanders' fault that the government took a long time to decide his case. All we know is that he was never drafted. Please don't post things that are not true or make up things to fill in what you don't know in an effort to make Sanders look worse. That would be ugly. Either way, he has had better judgment than Hillary about voting to send other people's children to war.
Speaking of which, double standards suck scissors, too. As I stated in a prior post, it was a long time ago, the time when Hillary was President of College Republicans at one of the then most liberal colleges in the nation and Hillary supporters keep saying she was too young to be accountable for that--and besides, she's "evolved." Well, she's not the only one who can evolve. Moreover, only one person in the group of four below served--and that was World War II and even he did his best to keep his deserter son out of Vietnam. Yet three of them have been President and the fourth thinks she should be and you agree with her.
Address to the Nation on the Invasion of Iraq (January 16, 1991)
George H. W. Bush
Just 2 hours ago, allied air forces began an attack on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait. These attacks continue as I speak. Ground forces are not engaged.
This conflict started August 2d when the dictator of Iraq invaded a small and helpless neighbor. Kuwaita member of the Arab League and a member of the United Nationswas crushed; its people, brutalized. Five months ago, Saddam Hussein started this cruel war against Kuwait. Tonight, the battle has been joined.
much more at:
http://www.millercenter.org/president/speeches/speech-3428
transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike
CLINTON: Good evening.
Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
much more at:
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html
more at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026211673
Senate vote on 2002 AUMF at:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2002/s237
House vote on 2002 AUMF at:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/107/hjres114
10:16 P.M. EST
THE PRESIDENT: My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.
On my orders, coalition forces have begun striking selected targets of military importance to undermine Saddam Hussein's ability to wage war. These are opening stages of what will be a broad and concerted campaign. More than 35 countries are giving crucial support -- from the use of naval and air bases, to help with intelligence and logistics, to the deployment of combat units. Every nation in this coalition has chosen to bear the duty and share the honor of serving in our common defense.
more at http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-17.html