2016 Postmortem

Vattel

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32. My math works because, due to Michigan and Florida's being penalized,

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:36 AM

Jun 2016

there were a lot fewer pledged delegates in 2008. After May 7, Clinton needed something like 80% of the remaining pledged delegates to win a majority. She was 164 pledged delegates behind with only 217 remaining. That doesn't count Michigan and Florida and, of course, ultimately the DNC gave those states half their delegates, but there was no chance that the DNC would do something crazy like give Obama no Michigan delegates (which her campaign ridiculously suggested would be fair).

Side note: The DNC really messed up the 2008 primary with the ridiculous rules about when states could hold their primaries.

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Sanders after Obama clinched with superdelegates: "party has chosen its nominee" [View all] geek tragedy Jun 2016 OP

He decided it does not apply to him. RandySF Jun 2016 #1

I guess his advanced degree in #Berniemath wasn't complete. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #4

Only for the little people workinclasszero Jun 2016 #6

How Ironic! Very, very telling. Great find. writes3000 Jun 2016 #2

Bernie's situational honesty and trustworthiness is wearing thin. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #58

DU rec... SidDithers Jun 2016 #3

I wonder if there's video of this workinclasszero Jun 2016 #5

Sanders is selfish. He's all about himself. He fooled many. That's what hypocrites do. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #7

The Independent HYPOCRITE!!!! nt UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #8

This is far more damning than the various Puerto Rico allegations. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #9

Bernie is very consistent in his hypocrisy. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #10

Oh please let me the media find a video of this and play it on loop Txbluedog Jun 2016 #11

He waited until the last primary was over. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #12

I hope he surprises me. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13

Maybe he will, but his rhetoric indicates hypocrisy. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #14

That same Bernie Sanders is supporting a government without Hillary Clinton the same now rhett o rick Jun 2016 #15

Do you honestly think Obama and Clinton are that different? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #18

It is a quite different situation in 2008. I felt Hillary would make an okay president but Obama brewens Jun 2016 #16

I haven't learned anything. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #17

Many people had higher expectations of the Obama administration and were disappointed. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #41

"It's different this time because Bernie is running" geek tragedy Jun 2016 #20

KnR! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #19

Most candidates don't hint at giving up until they give up... qdouble Jun 2016 #21

Whoa! Great find. Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #22

+1, how does one spell hypocrite ... give me an S ... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #23

Interesting... realmirage Jun 2016 #24

KNR Lucinda Jun 2016 #25

"What happened to that Bernie Sanders?" Meteor Man Jun 2016 #26

We'll see if indeed he is a shamelessly hypocritical sore loser geek tragedy Jun 2016 #29

Obama at that time had clinched the majority of pledged delegates. Vattel Jun 2016 #27

On Tuesday she clinches a majority of pledged geek tragedy Jun 2016 #28

My math works because, due to Michigan and Florida's being penalized, Vattel Jun 2016 #32

Michigan and Florida was the big deal back then. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #33

Yes, MI and FL were a big deal. And I agree with you that he should concede after the last primary. Vattel Jun 2016 #37

"Any way one slices it, on Tuesday June 7, 2016 she will be in the same position Obama was on June 3, 2008" thesquanderer Jun 2016 #40

Your math "works" because you arbitrarily picked May 7. onenote Jun 2016 #38

I have no idea what your point is supposed to be. Vattel Jun 2016 #52

I don't find that surprising in the least. But I'll try again onenote Jun 2016 #53

lol, I knew you were going to say that Vattel Jun 2016 #54

Did you know I would edit my post to provide you with a further explanation? onenote Jun 2016 #55

The further explanation doesn't help. I think you may have missed original my point. Vattel Jun 2016 #56

I'm certainly open to understanding it better. Let's start with why you picked May 7 onenote Jun 2016 #57

I picked May 7 to prove that Clinton stayed in the race for another month even when, Vattel Jun 2016 #59

thanks. I think we're actually in agreement. onenote Jun 2016 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Jun 2016 #35

Kicked & Rec'd Alfresco Jun 2016 #30

The hypocrisy and inconsistency is staggering. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #31

HRC is a woman. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #34

Bingo workinclasszero Jun 2016 #49

Sanders is fighting for much more, is doing it as a relative outsider, and is still a candidate. Orsino Jun 2016 #36

Fighting for much more? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #43

More change, and more better change. Orsino Jun 2016 #47

That doesn't entitle Bernie to run the show even after losing the primaries though. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #48

The party works differently. Orsino Jun 2016 #50

Did he evolve or is this a self-serving flip-flop? mcar Jun 2016 #39

Hnmmm. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #42

Bernie plans on supporting Hillary if she is the nominee. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #44

he also planned on running a positive, issues-based campaign geek tragedy Jun 2016 #45

Hardly an attack. He was asked a question and he responded fairly. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #46

bernie being a hypocrite? Not any news.....its all about his ego now beachbum bob Jun 2016 #51

You sure you want to play that game? Gay marriage, 2008, go. hellofromreddit Jun 2016 #60

public policy vs basic math, go nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #62

Uh-oh, too late to bite your tongue, Bernie. Bill USA Jun 2016 #61

K&R Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #63