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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Do you support the Free Trade policies that the Corporate Democrats are selling? [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)40. I hear you. I think a lot of people will join you. The neoliberals have taken control of
our Party and will literally anything to hold down progressiveism.
The Wealthy don't wish us to die, but we have resources they "need" and if it brings our death, it's not personal, it's just business.
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rhett o rick
Jun 2016
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Mine was an answer in the form of a question. He is a corporatist and he loves the TPP.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#133
It must be so comforting to blindly trust, but not Democratic. Skepticism is healthy.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#135
Hillary Cannot Tell The TRUTH On Her Best Day... Especially Re: Her Position On TPP! NOWWW
CorporatistNation
Jun 2016
#10
This is clearly Clinton speak:"the President should listen to and work with his allies in Congress,"
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#17
She doesn't really oppose it. Anyone who believes she now magically does also
NorthCarolina
Jun 2016
#80
The logic of the non-progressives befuddles me. They support the Major Corporations that
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#42
The use of 'progressive' irritates me becasue it's normally associated with people
appalachiablue
Jun 2016
#78
They embrace the conservative ideology why can't they admit it? Rhetorical question.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#121
The multi-country trade agreement is not 'conservative ideology'. FDR created it, Sweden uses it
pampango
Jun 2016
#122
The way that the Dems have favored banks, corporations, free trade and regulation has been the......
dmosh42
Jun 2016
#4
What is frustrating is those that are so devoted to Clinton will not discuss Free Trade.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#24
Yes, you're so right. Not about what's best for the country, but being on the winning side!
dmosh42
Jun 2016
#25
If everything is going so great why do so many people feel like they are barely surviving?
Cheese Sandwich
Jun 2016
#9
Many people have their own statistics, but the government has showed a 20 yr downward trend for.....
dmosh42
Jun 2016
#27
The high cost of a college education is never figured into the snake oil statistics either
think
Jun 2016
#61
The CPI is the formula that adjusts for changing costs, so you brought it up (nt)
Recursion
Jun 2016
#85
"The high cost of a college education is never figured into the snake oil statistics"
Recursion
Jun 2016
#90
I was referring to your snake oil statistics Recursion. You know the ones you create and post here.
think
Jun 2016
#92
unemployment is higher, wages are lower, the poverty rate is higher and growing.....
larkrake
Jun 2016
#94
Well, other than the fact that all of those are false, that would be a good argument
Recursion
Jun 2016
#97
NO. And I fail to understand voters who also do not and yet who will vote for Hillary
Triana
Jun 2016
#11
If they have a government capable of signing a deal then they have one capable of setting
TheKentuckian
Jun 2016
#23
We didn't wait on them to set our minimum wage and if they don't want one it is on them. We should
TheKentuckian
Jun 2016
#129
I hear you. I think a lot of people will join you. The neoliberals have taken control of
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#40
According to polls, a lot more Democrats support 'free trade' than republicans. Trump read his base
pampango
Jun 2016
#37
Well Free Trade does have the word "Free" in it and I am afraid that's about as
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#38
Apparently the republican base is not fooled by the "Free" the way Democrats are.
pampango
Jun 2016
#43
No one said anything about doing away with trade. The TPP isn't about trade it's about empowering
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#49
But the key word is free. We are free to screw ourselves to make the corporations bigger and
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#50
SoS Clinton had no problem telling the govt of Haiti it had to lower it's minimum wage....
think
Jun 2016
#86
But you just said we don't tell govts how to set the minimum wage. What happened?
think
Jun 2016
#91
So you're saying that with the TTP we can't influence the minimum wage but without it we can?
think
Jun 2016
#100
We don't enforce the agreements we already have & the AFL-CIO prez calls the TPP a carbon copy:
think
Jun 2016
#105
And yet you want to take away the AFL-CIO's ability to sue Colombia over those outrages
Recursion
Jun 2016
#107
Bullshit. I want fair trade where the AFL-CIO sits at the damn table like Obama said he'd do
think
Jun 2016
#108
Yes, you do. They're suing right now (that's what that complaint is part of)
Recursion
Jun 2016
#109
If the unions were involved in drafting the FTAs they wouldn't be suing over the 99 murders
think
Jun 2016
#110
Are you claiming unions wouldn't have the right to sue if they got to help draft the FTAs?
think
Jun 2016
#113
"Unfortunately, our ideas were rejected." That's not helping draft the TTP. That's being shut out
think
Jun 2016
#117
99 union members and leaders were murdered in Columbia. CAFTA FAILED to protect those workers.
think
Jun 2016
#115
NO. The ILAB division of the Department of labor is in charge of over seeing FTA enforcement.
think
Jun 2016
#118
I clicked the first link ....Written by a member of a right-wing "freedom" think tank
Armstead
Jun 2016
#63
I agree with Ron Paul on certain things...like his opposition to the War in Iraq
Armstead
Jun 2016
#73
Some parts of all trade agreements are good for the US, some parts not. We will never get 100%
Jitter65
Jun 2016
#59
Yeah those silly domestic laws should be gotten rid of to make life easier for Corporations
Armstead
Jun 2016
#64
This is a ridiculous argument though: the countries joining have to *raise* their minimum wage
Recursion
Jun 2016
#68
Who cares? Trade is now off the table. Along with fracking. Universal Health....etc.
Armstead
Jun 2016
#65
https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/trans-pacific-partnership/tpp-full-text
think
Jun 2016
#106
Why do you always pick on Goldman Sachs, as opposed to Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan, or Barclays?
Algernon Moncrieff
Jun 2016
#123
If we have to ship jobs, I'd much rather keep them in Central America or the Caribbean
Algernon Moncrieff
Jun 2016
#128
Clinton Spokesman Brian Fallon on Hillary’s Economic Message | Video link below
BootinUp
Jun 2016
#137